bourbonboy Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Per Evan Silva of Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/40242 5. Bills defensive end Mark Anderson After re-signing Stevie Johnson, the Bills turned all of their attention to upgrading the front seven, and that aggressiveness was honorable. They made Mario Williams the highest paid defender in NFL history, and then followed it up by signing Anderson to be Mario's weak-side bookend. Buffalo had a plan, and it executed. But Anderson was overpaid in the process, and there are likely people in the Bills' organization who would acknowledge as much. He isn't worth $5 million a year. Anderson is going on age 29. He's been in the league for six seasons, and in just two of them recorded more than five sacks. Anderson is consistently washed out in run defense and is essentially a one-down end. The Bills will give him a chance to be an every-snap player, but it almost certainly won't end well. While Buffalo's team sack total will rise in 2012, offenses will know exactly which front-four member to target on running plays: Mark Anderson. I still like the signing - even if you gotta rotate Kelsay in for run support - and it weakens the enemy at the same time is strengthens us (lot of Pats* fans were upset at losing him). But Evan does have a great point - we'll find out pretty quick if Anderson's a 3-down player or not, because that's definitely where teams are going to try and run at. Rest of the article is also a good read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I watched alot of Anderson after we signed him on NFL Game rewind. He is a ferocious tackler that never stops going and a gifted pass rusher. I think this will prove to be a great signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Per Evan Silva of Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld...icles/nfl/40242 5. Bills defensive end Mark Anderson After re-signing Stevie Johnson, the Bills turned all of their attention to upgrading the front seven, and that aggressiveness was honorable. They made Mario Williams the highest paid defender in NFL history, and then followed it up by signing Anderson to be Mario's weak-side bookend. Buffalo had a plan, and it executed. But Anderson was overpaid in the process, and there are likely people in the Bills' organization who would acknowledge as much. He isn't worth $5 million a year. Anderson is going on age 29. He's been in the league for six seasons, and in just two of them recorded more than five sacks. Anderson is consistently washed out in run defense and is essentially a one-down end. The Bills will give him a chance to be an every-snap player, but it almost certainly won't end well. While Buffalo's team sack total will rise in 2012, offenses will know exactly which front-four member to target on running plays: Mark Anderson. I still like the signing - even if you gotta rotate Kelsay in for run support - and it weakens the enemy at the same time is strengthens us (lot of Pats* fans were upset at losing him). But Evan does have a great point - we'll find out pretty quick if Anderson's a 3-down player or not, because that's definitely where teams are going to try and run at. Rest of the article is also a good read. In today's pass crazy NFL, especially in the AFC East where the idea is to win your division, to say that Mark Anderson is "essentially a one down end" is downright stupid. That's all you need to know about the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 In today's pass crazy NFL, especially in the AFC East where the idea is to win your division, to say that Mark Anderson is "essentially a one down end" is downright stupid. That's all you need to know about the article. Good point Kelly. We are going to be facing a west coast offense, and a spread offense 4 times a year for the next 4 years. Pass rush might be useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Meaningless article until we see what he does on the field. Ask me in 3 years if he was overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Meaningless article until we see what he does on the field. Ask me in 3 years if he was overpaid. Not to mention that sometimes overpaying players is a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Ralph is cheap??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since 1972 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Meaningless article until we see what he does on the field. Ask me in 3 years if he was overpaid. What would it take for him to be considered NOT OVERPAID...personal stats or simply the team making the playoffs during his tenure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 He's been in the league for six seasons, and in just two of them recorded more than five sacks. Anderson is consistently washed out in run defense and is essentially a one-down end. The Bills will give him a chance to be an every-snap player, but it almost certainly won't end well. While Buffalo's team sack total will rise in 2012, offenses will know exactly which front-four member to target on running plays: Mark Anderson. Those are some pretty definitive statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Those are some pretty definitive statements. Not to mention that with Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, and Marcel Dareus alongside him, if the Bills paid Mark Anderson a 7 year contract for $1.45 total, teams would know which guy to run at on our defensive line. It's a stupid article with bad conclusions based on ridiculous premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Aren't most if not all pro athletes overpaid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 The whole premise of the article is effed up. who can say who is over paid at this point. What if he becomes Brice Paup 2.0? or what if Kelsey does? And what if Mario only gets 5 sacks? but we have the number 1 D? Is any of this predictable? And what if next year it is the different? Just effed up I tell ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Ralph is cheap??? I expected nothing less than the media bashing our signings, or underplaying them. BTW CB, I fixed the formula for you in this case(Anderson and Williams signings) -1 = Anderson and Williams signings (Ralph is Cheap)*-1 = Ralph is Not Cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Rotoworld -- that was all I needed to see. Give me some fantasy football advice, Silva -- otherwise, shut the eff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Per Evan Silva of Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/40242 5. Bills defensive end Mark Anderson After re-signing Stevie Johnson, the Bills turned all of their attention to upgrading the front seven, and that aggressiveness was honorable. They made Mario Williams the highest paid defender in NFL history, and then followed it up by signing Anderson to be Mario's weak-side bookend. Buffalo had a plan, and it executed. But Anderson was overpaid in the process, and there are likely people in the Bills' organization who would acknowledge as much. He isn't worth $5 million a year. Anderson is going on age 29. He's been in the league for six seasons, and in just two of them recorded more than five sacks. Anderson is consistently washed out in run defense and is essentially a one-down end. The Bills will give him a chance to be an every-snap player, but it almost certainly won't end well. While Buffalo's team sack total will rise in 2012, offenses will know exactly which front-four member to target on running plays: Mark Anderson. I still like the signing - even if you gotta rotate Kelsay in for run support - and it weakens the enemy at the same time is strengthens us (lot of Pats* fans were upset at losing him). But Evan does have a great point - we'll find out pretty quick if Anderson's a 3-down player or not, because that's definitely where teams are going to try and run at. Rest of the article is also a good read. Typical. Anderson has shown what he has the capability of doing. It's up to the Stache to get it out of him. Playing alongside KW, Dareus and Super Mario should allow this guy to do his thing. We played a lot of nickel last year and with the dreaded "it's a passing league" philosophy he will be able to use his talents. I'm not worried about his run support and we obviously have a good number of horses now and we will likely platoon our d-lineman. Even if he plays 47% of the snaps like in New England and gets near 10 sacks that would be a huge success. We are paying Kelsay $3.5 Million plus bonuses. I think Kelsay is a bit over paid but if he is even slightly better than Kelsay it is worth the upgrade. It is also showing players that Buffalo can be a free agent destination. Worth every penny on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Good signing, guy knows the division. Only 8 mill of the contract is comitted. Easy to walk alway after 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 What would it take for him to be considered NOT OVERPAID...personal stats or simply the team making the playoffs during his tenure? Yes, plus about 20 other factors. I'll work on the exact formula and submit it for your approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep2Moulds46 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) To me this is applying a baseball philosphy to football. In baseball, a .320 hitter is a .320 hitter, and will in all likelihood will be that regardless of location or teammates. (Obviously there are exceptions). But with the front the Bills built......investing in Super Mario...spending a high draft pick on Dareus and paying a big money extension to Kyle Williams, the right defensive end is (in theory) going to be facing A LOT of one on one blocking. Prior to the Anderson signing, the Bills didn't currently have a guy on their roster who can consistently win one on one battles, and without that at RDE, you really take a lot of the effectiveness away from the big 3 next to him. So yes, Anderson may not be the guy you want on the field on 3rd and 1, but on 3rd and 7, when Brady drops back and is looking for Welker or Gronkowski, Anderson is going to have one of the most favorable matchups on the field, and he has the ability to exploit that much moreso than Chris Kelsay or Alex Carrington. If Anderson were brought in at 5 million a year to be a bookend to Chris Kelsay, it would be a a lot of money wasted. As is, I think he can flourish in this role. Edited April 5, 2012 by Deep2Moulds46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Grid Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 "While Buffalo's team sack total will rise in 2012, offenses will know exactly which front-four member to target on running plays: Mark Anderson." It is never impressive when someone makes an obvious factual statement, but treats it like a big reveal and proof of their argument. Wow. Teams will run at Anderson given their choice of the Bills front four? They won't run at two of the best run stopping DTs in the NFL or a DE who might be the best run stuffing 4-3 DE in the league? Instead they will run at the other guy? Well that does it, that other guy must be overpaid. Forget for a second that there are probably only 5-10 guys in the entire NFL who teams wouldn't run towards when facing the other three options on the Bills line. In his first draft did the writer include the fact that Anderson is also overpaid because he isn't likely to be as effective at throwing the football as Fitzpatrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Per Evan Silva of Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/40242 5. Bills defensive end Mark Anderson He isn't worth $5 million a year. This is the NFL. Corpses get $4 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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