BuffaloRebound Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I would think so. If I were Manning, I'd rather play in Denver than Miami or Arizona because they just came off a playoff season and have a good HC who isn't in his first coaching stint, much less his first year. Why would he go to a cold weather team? I think it's Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Allow me to play you for a moment: Prove me wrong. And what prompted that outburst from RW after Tebow was selected in the first round? Argue if you will, but owners do not call out other teams after draft day about what they've done wrong. Bizarre behavior from an elderly man who clearly had something in mind when he made that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I'd trade all three for RGIII Maybe in hindsight for the moment. But last time we traded our future for a qb we got stuck with losman and we missed out on getting rodgers the following year. There are good qb prospects every year. No reason to give up that much for one player that isn't a sure thing. And if we made that trade, it would have been a lot more. Probably another 1st or maybe 2 more 2nds at the very least. Whatever we would give up, it would have been a lot more than what the skins gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 And the team that was in the SB a few years ago and has Fitzgerald at WR is not a good option? Think, man. Think! I didn't say it wasn't a good option (even though the SB was 4 years ago), just that Denver was the best option. Why would he go to a cold weather team? I think it's Miami. Why go to a team with sweltering weather? He's played in a dome for the majority of his NFL career. If anything, it's more of a case for Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Maybe in hindsight for the moment. But last time we traded our future for a qb we got stuck with losman and we missed out on getting rodgers the following year. There are good qb prospects every year. No reason to give up that much for one player that isn't a sure thing. And if we made that trade, it would have been a lot more. Probably another 1st or maybe 2 more 2nds at the very least. Whatever we would give up, it would have been a lot more than what the skins gave up. Losman? Not even in the same discussion with this kid. It's apples and oranges. This kid is the real deal. He's worth the shot the Skins took. Losman was a panic move. Like McCargo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I found it funny as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I would think so. If I were Manning, I'd rather play in Denver than Miami or Arizona because they just came off a playoff season and have a good HC who isn't in his first coaching stint, much less his first year. I don't think that Manning much cares how experienced his HC is. He wants to have control of the offensive side of the ball. What he should care about are O-line, Receivers, RB. Defense is a big deal too, maybe as big as anything on the offensive side of the ball. Denver might be at the top of the list because their defense kept them in games and allowed Tebow to win games completing less than 10 passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I don't think that Manning much cares how experienced his HC is. He wants to have control of the offensive side of the ball. What he should care about are O-line, Receivers, RB. Defense is a big deal too, maybe as big as anything on the offensive side of the ball. Denver might be at the top of the list because their defense kept them in games and allowed Tebow to win games completing less than 10 passes. A smart guy like Manning wouldn't want a rookie head coach in his first year. Especially a guy who was a former OC. Not when he could have a guy who is a defensive minded guy who he can wrest offensive play-calling from easier, and who can give him a better defense, like as you mentioned they had last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 ESPN now saying the next three years #1's and this years number two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 ESPN now saying the next three years #1's and this years number two. I'm thinking that includes this year, which is what was originally reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Losman? Not even in the same discussion with this kid. It's apples and oranges. This kid is the real deal. He's worth the shot the Skins took. Losman was a panic move. Like McCargo. Real deal? Like Brady Quinn , jamarcuss Russell, Ryan leaf, aliki smith, blaine gabbert, or the other countless qbs that were considered a sure thing by everyone? The chances of rgIII having a cam newton rookie season is terribly small. I wouldnt mind throwing a pick or two for him, but giving up the farm for a player that could very well be a bust? If he does turn out to be a bust, then you will have to wait like 4-5 years to draft another top tier prospect because you have no more 1st round picks. If the panthers traded up to the 1st round to get clausen they never would have gotten newton. I am all for getting a stud qb, but I don't want to be enslaved to bust with the only way to draft a replacement is by using a 2nd rounder. That will get you nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 This year's ones were swapped. So they dropped four slots this year and gave up two ones and a 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Why would he go to a cold weather team? I think it's Miami. Could be. The Super Bowl he won was played on Florida soil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Real deal? Like Brady Quinn , jamarcuss Russell, Ryan leaf, aliki smith, blaine gabbert, or the other countless qbs that were considered a sure thing by everyone? The chances of rgIII having a cam newton rookie season is terribly small. I wouldnt mind throwing a pick or two for him, but giving up the farm for a player that could very well be a bust? If he does turn out to be a bust, then you will have to wait like 4-5 years to draft another top tier prospect because you have no more 1st round picks. If the panthers traded up to the 1st round to get clausen they never would have gotten newton. I am all for getting a stud qb, but I don't want to be enslaved to bust with the only way to draft a replacement is by using a 2nd rounder. That will get you nowhere. Look back at all the QBs you mentioned and show me where the consensus from everyone was they would succeed in the NFL. Now look this season and show me anyone who does not think this kid is the real deal. By anyone, I mean qualified, respected opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Funny, Cleveland said they were offering same package and were informed rams were trading with Skins instead. Why would rams go with skins when the same offer from browns would have gotten them 2 spots higher in Rd 1 and 2 this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Just a thought and I know I'll be shot, stabbed, drowned, choked, hung, set on fire, raped, stoned and castrated for even mentioning because Luck is 100% the next coming of Christ but does anyone think that maybe Shanny got a hint that the Colts will be drafting RG3 and leave the sone of God himself for the taking at #2? Personally I think Luck is good I just don't see all the overhype. Especially since he will NEVER live up to his expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) Look back at all the QBs you mentioned and show me where the consensus from everyone was they would succeed in the NFL. Now look this season and show me anyone who does not think this kid is the real deal. By anyone, I mean qualified, respected opinions. by qualified and respected im assuming you mean everyone who agrees with you?? Edited March 10, 2012 by Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 No. I meant you Danny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Interesting angle no one is talking about is that the Colts could have kept Manning and got even more draft picks than the Rams are getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Anyone care to wager which team is farther ahead 5 years down the road? The Rams will be making playoff appearances and Washington will be chasing the next big name FA. The Redskins have turned into Raiders east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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