RkFast Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 .....associates himself with Nazis, breaks break with them, attends events espousing and celebrating Nazism....does that make HIM a Nazi? And if the answer is yes, how is "Baraka Obama" NOT a leftist, marxist Alinskyite? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/04/obama-alinsky-love-song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Good post. This is the most mysterious president of my lifetime, and I am 55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 .....associates himself with Nazis, breaks break with them, attends events espousing and celebrating Nazism....does that make HIM a Nazi? Is this another thread about Fitz's haircut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 .....associates himself with Nazis, breaks break with them, attends events espousing and celebrating Nazism....does that make HIM a Nazi? And if the answer is yes, how is "Baraka Obama" NOT a leftist, marxist Alinskyite? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/04/obama-alinsky-love-song Oh brother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) I don't mean this to be a Tom-Donahoe-Drinks-Baby's-Blood post in any way, but it's just another log on the fire of learning things about Pres. Obama that I had never heard before. There's a story in the AP Exclusive today that confirms that Obama's nanny in Indonesia when he was a boy was/is a transvestite who is now living in fear in the streets. Seriously. I couldn't make this up. Now, I'm not going to make any comment... it takes all kinds in this world, I suppose. It doesn't reflect on him any more than that... let's go with... he had an odd upbringing. Edited March 5, 2012 by UConn James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I don't mean this to be a Tom-Donahoe-Drinks-Baby's-Blood post in any way, but it's just another log on the fire of learning things about Pres. Obama that I had never heard before. There's a story in the AP Exclusive today that confirms that Obama's nanny in Indonesia when he was a boy was/is a transvestite who is now living in fear in the streets. Seriously. I couldn't make this up. Now, I'm not going to make any comment... it takes all kinds in this world, I suppose. It doesn't reflect on him any more than that... let's go with... he had an odd upbringing. Just more evidence that Pres. Obama is really an Illuminati puppet. Now, more to the point of the OP, why is it that associating with certain types of people puts you in the same category of those people? Is it only because those are eeeevil groups? I associate myself with Christians, break bread with Christians, and attend events espousing and celebrating Christianity. Am I a Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Just more evidence that Pres. Obama is really an Illuminati puppet. Now, more to the point of the OP, why is it that associating with certain types of people puts you in the same category of those people? Is it only because those are eeeevil groups? I associate myself with Christians, break bread with Christians, and attend events espousing and celebrating Christianity. Am I a Christian? You associate with me. Ergo, you're a pedantic supercilious anal orifice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 This is why Im ASKING instead of going "full idiot" and just screaming "Hes a marxist!!!! Seee!!!" But as more of this stuff comes out, the notion that the question can just be blown off is going away. Quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 But as more of this stuff comes out, the notion that the question can just be blown off is going away. Quickly. I want to believe that, but it simply will not be the case because the left has mastered the concept of poisoning the well. You simply can not question or criticize Obama's past in ANY regard without it immediately leading to tinfoil hat birther discussions. They are all immediately just another log on the burning bush of "you're one of those people who can't admit Obama has done anything good" or "you're one of those people who want him to fail because he's black." They own the conversation. The Alinsky, Rev. Wright, Weather Underground, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko stuff is just crazy talk. Crazy. I suppose you want to see his long form birth certificate next, right? Over and over and over. The discussion needs to be economy, Solyndra, Fast and Furious and Obamacare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 I want to believe that, but it simply will not be the case because the left has mastered the concept of poisoning the well. You simply can not question or criticize Obama's past in ANY regard without it immediately leading to tinfoil hat birther discussions. They are all immediately just another log on the burning bush of "you're one of those people who can't admit Obama has done anything good" or "you're one of those people who want him to fail because he's black." They own the conversation. The Alinsky, Rev. Wright, Weather Underground, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko stuff is just crazy talk. Crazy. I suppose you want to see his long form birth certificate next, right? Over and over and over. The discussion needs to be economy, Solyndra, Fast and Furious and Obamacare. Im sad to hear youve given up the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If Obama is a socialist then he's not very good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Just more evidence that Pres. Obama is really an Illuminati puppet. Now, more to the point of the OP, why is it that associating with certain types of people puts you in the same category of those people? Is it only because those are eeeevil groups? I associate myself with Christians, break bread with Christians, and attend events espousing and celebrating Christianity. Am I a Christian? If you're doing it at church, then quite likely you are a Christian or at least share many similar views. The simple act of associating with socialists, Marxists and other left leaning groups doesn't mean much taken alone, but when you're associating with these types at functions celebrating known Marxists then its a pretty clear indication that Barry is at least sympathetic to their cause. Politicians get to know all sorts of unsavory characters, and I couldn't care less if Obama enjoys talking borscht with Lenin himself every year at the XYZ gala fundraiser. But there is a difference between overlapping social circles with socialists and going out of your way to serve on a panel with the radical left. In this instance I think its totally fair to discuss Obama's associations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) If Obama is a socialist then he's not very good at it. Trust me, he is, just that reality doesn't allow him to practice full blown socialism. Edited March 5, 2012 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If Obama is a socialist then he's not very good at it. Did you expect he was going to be "good at it' given his qualifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If you're doing it at church, then quite likely you are a Christian or at least share many similar views. The simple act of associating with socialists, Marxists and other left leaning groups doesn't mean much taken alone, but when you're associating with these types at functions celebrating known Marxists then its a pretty clear indication that Barry is at least sympathetic to their cause. Politicians get to know all sorts of unsavory characters, and I couldn't care less if Obama enjoys talking borscht with Lenin himself every year at the XYZ gala fundraiser. But there is a difference between overlapping social circles with socialists and going out of your way to serve on a panel with the radical left. In this instance I think its totally fair to discuss Obama's associations. Geez dude have you seen some of these commie lefty pinko hippy pot smoking dirt bag losers? There is no way you would hang around one of them unless you were one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If Obama is a socialist then he's not very good at it. "I disagree." [/GM Bondholder] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Im sad to hear youve given up the fight. I haven't given up the fight. I've given up THAT fight. I'm one of those people who believes that four more years of Obama, especially when he has no one to suck up to for reelection, will be absolutely devastating to our economy, and what's left of our individual and collective dignity. We have eight months and ONE shot. I'm of the strategic mindset that I'm not going to convince fence-sitting voters to vote against Obama by rolling out Sean Hannity's golden oldies of Alinsky love songs and Bernardine Dorhn. The freaking Obama campaign sells coffee mugs with his birth certificate on them, for Christ's sake. They OWN these conversations. You simply can not waste time on THIS microcosm of the larger fight when you give serious thought to the amount of time and number of opportunities we have. You go after these things when you have depth. We have no depth right now, and again, we have eight months and one shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I haven't given up the fight. I've given up THAT fight. I'm one of those people who believes that four more years of Obama, especially when he has no one to suck up to for reelection, will be absolutely devastating to our economy, and what's left of our individual and collective dignity. Well, not our individual dignity. He'll just take the dignity from the 1% that have extra dignity and redistribute it to the undignified 99%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If Obama is a socialist then he's not very good at it. Obamacare, class warfare, " I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you – that they’ve got a chance at success too" "I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody", continually beating up the private sector over the last 3 years, especially in industries his ideology doesn't fit. If he's a bad socialist, it's certainly not for the lack of trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If you're doing it at church, then quite likely you are a Christian or at least share many similar views. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I'd do quite well in a Christian theocracy. My Christian friends tend to be neo-cons, though, which is something I am most definitely not. The simple act of associating with socialists, Marxists and other left leaning groups doesn't mean much taken alone, but when you're associating with these types at functions celebrating known Marxists then its a pretty clear indication that Barry is at least sympathetic to their cause. Politicians get to know all sorts of unsavory characters, and I couldn't care less if Obama enjoys talking borscht with Lenin himself every year at the XYZ gala fundraiser. But there is a difference between overlapping social circles with socialists and going out of your way to serve on a panel with the radical left. In this instance I think its totally fair to discuss Obama's associations. And I think it'd be more fair if we knew what was said at this panel. We've all become familiar with the bull **** Obama can spout. It wouldn't surprise me if he went to this as part of his "community organizer" agenda and didn't take a real position on any political points, instead spewing a lot of flowery crap, in order to help expand his "grassroots" base. Do I think Obama is a leftist? Absolutely. Do I think he's a socialist? We don't even have to look at this function to say that, if he isn't, he's at least close to it. LA is right, pointing to these types of things at this point just muddies the water. We need to focus on his policy making, his executive decisions, and the economy in order to get somebody else in the White House next January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Obamacare, class warfare, " I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you – that they’ve got a chance at success too" "I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody", continually beating up the private sector over the last 3 years, especially in industries his ideology doesn't fit. If he's a bad socialist, it's certainly not for the lack of trying. You see you don't understand, in Lybobs youtubed perfect world, he believes that the president can unilaterally take our capitalistic society and turn it into Sweden over night and tell all the zionists to !@#$ off and somehow all the jews would just magically either disappear or accept his vision without aaaaannnnyyy reprecrussions whatsoever. Welcome to Lybobs world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) The play finishes with Alinsky announcing he’d rather go to Hell than Heaven. Why? “More comfortable there. You see, all my life I’ve been with the Have-Nots: here you’re a Have-Not if you’re short of money, there you’re a Have-Not if you’re short of virtue. I’d be asking more questions, organizing them. They’re my kind of people – Hell would be Heaven for me.” So he is basically saying he just wants to be against the prevailing winds of society. If everyone who believes in Heaven thinks it takes goodness and virtue to get there, he wants to be a douche instead. What would happen if the "have-nots who have no money" suddenly had the exact same amount as everyone else? What would he find to be a douche about? His brilliant thoughts will have come to fruition and I'm sure he'll be applauded by the previously rich and previously poor alike because each of us will have recognized his wisdom. Then he'll be all pissed because nobody thinks he is a douche bag any more. Then what will he do? He'll have to wait to die and go to hell but he'd end up in heaven. His philosophy seems to be "everything sucks and if we fix it, it will still suck". Personally I think it would be best if society ignored these pot smoking, hemp macrame plant holder making loser hippies. It would allow them to wallow in their self pity and be happy because there is plenty left to complain about and it would allow the rest of us to go about actually producing. And the bolded part is also telling, because "comfort" is really what it is all about for these losers. The comfort of knowing there will be lots of things there for you even if you don't endanger your "comfort" by getting off your butt and working for them. And no I don't mean the poor that have been held back by the insane thoughts of loser hippies like this. I mean the loser hippies themselves. We should give them a lifetime supply of pot, some potato chips, a lava lamp, a few books and tell them to contemplate the mystery of "what if blue is really red and red is really blue" and don't come out of your apartment until you've solved it. They would be forever comfortable and we wouldn't have to listen to their stupid crap. Edited March 5, 2012 by ieatcrayonz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You see you don't understand, in Lybobs youtubed perfect world, he believes that the president can unilaterally take our capitalistic society and turn it into Sweden over night and tell all the zionists to !@#$ off and somehow all the jews would just magically either disappear or accept his vision without aaaaannnnyyy reprecrussions whatsoever. Welcome to Lybobs world Of course not. It's not every day that you have a sitting President who's turned ambition & success into a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You see you don't understand, in Lybobs youtubed perfect world, he believes that the president can unilaterally take our capitalistic society and turn it into Sweden over night and tell all the zionists to !@#$ off and somehow all the jews would just magically either disappear or accept his vision without aaaaannnnyyy reprecrussions whatsoever. Welcome to Lybobs world To be fair, there are only what, 7,000,000 jews in the US now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I haven't given up the fight. I've given up THAT fight. I'm one of those people who believes that four more years of Obama, especially when he has no one to suck up to for reelection, will be absolutely devastating to our economy, and what's left of our individual and collective dignity. We have eight months and ONE shot. I'm of the strategic mindset that I'm not going to convince fence-sitting voters to vote against Obama by rolling out Sean Hannity's golden oldies of Alinsky love songs and Bernardine Dorhn. The freaking Obama campaign sells coffee mugs with his birth certificate on them, for Christ's sake. They OWN these conversations. You simply can not waste time on THIS microcosm of the larger fight when you give serious thought to the amount of time and number of opportunities we have. You go after these things when you have depth. We have no depth right now, and again, we have eight months and one shot. It's funny that you mention the birth certificate issue. It's hit the political radar again due to Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio's investigation into the matter. I don't consider myself a "birther". IMO, birthers believe that he's not a legal citizen. I simply say that I have no idea one way or the other. They can make fun it all they want, but I'm glad that someone is at least on the case. Even if it is the political lightening rod known as Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Just look at how John Edwards affair was covered up and eventually exposed by the National Enquirer of all places. I find it hard to trust anything involved in the highest places in the government be they a D or R. Should be interesting to see what, if anything, comes of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Should be interesting to see what, if anything, comes of it. Nothing's going to come of it because it's a freaking joke which, as I mentioned earlier, is now available on an Obama 2012 coffee mug. The left owns this story. Move on. (Note: I'm not a WND guy. I just did a quick birth certificate mug Google and got this hit.) Edited March 5, 2012 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It's funny that you mention the birth certificate issue. It's hit the political radar again due to Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio's investigation into the matter. I don't consider myself a "birther". IMO, birthers believe that he's not a legal citizen. I simply say that I have no idea one way or the other. They can make fun it all they want, but I'm glad that someone is at least on the case. Even if it is the political lightening rod known as Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Just look at how John Edwards affair was covered up and eventually exposed by the National Enquirer of all places. I find it hard to trust anything involved in the highest places in the government be they a D or R. Should be interesting to see what, if anything, comes of it. Thud. Between the Republicans trying to out-religious each other on social policies in the primary and birther crap, is it a wonder that I confidently predict Obama winning in a landslide? Magox is optimistic: He thinks that Mitt can win by bringing up the economy, jobs, and debt...but the Republicans cannot shape their debate to reflect those as priorities. Obama's strategy is loaded and ready--they are on message. The Republicans are all over the place and the more they get distracted by the social stuff, they more they turn off independents (like me). I hear Rick Santorum shaping the debate and it makes me wary of all the Republican candidates because they are willing to engage on those policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Nothing's going to come of it because it's a freaking joke which, as I mentioned earlier, is now available on an Obama 2012 coffee mug. The left owns this story. Move on. (Note: I'm not a WND guy. I just did a quick birth certificate mug Google and got this hit.) The original topic suggests that Obama's sudden rise to the top was facilitated by radicals. His history is so murky that I would not be at all shocked if he weren't a legal citizen. That being said, you should have no worries...Romney won't be baited into this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thud. Between the Republicans trying to out-religious each other on social policies in the primary and birther crap, is it a wonder that I confidently predict Obama winning in a landslide? Magox is optimistic: He thinks that Mitt can win by bringing up the economy, jobs, and debt...but the Republicans cannot shape their debate to reflect those as priorities. Obama's strategy is loaded and ready--they are on message. The Republicans are all over the place and the more they get distracted by the social stuff, they more they turn off independents (like me). I hear Rick Santorum shaping the debate and it makes me wary of all the Republican candidates because they are willing to engage on those policies. I will say this, Romney's focus on the economy has been spectacularly myopic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I will say this, Romney's focus on the economy has been spectacularly myopic. Well, he hangs out a lot with Santorum, at debates and such. And if a man hangs out with Nazis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 To be fair, there are only what, 7,000,000 jews in the US now? So wtf are you trying to say?? Are they "expendable" in you eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 So wtf are you trying to say?? Are they "expendable" in you eyes? You are joking right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) You are joking right? Are you offended again? Because it seems like you are offended again. Edited March 6, 2012 by ieatcrayonz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 So wtf are you trying to say?? Are they "expendable" in you eyes? This is the funniest thing I've read all day. Oy vey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Are you offended again? Because it seems like you are offended again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 So wtf are you trying to say?? Are they "expendable" in you eyes? What the hell is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 What the hell is wrong with you? Come now, Tom. You know what's wrong with him. And you know you want to say it. Go on, say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfatbillsfan Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 .....associates himself with Nazis, breaks break with them, attends events espousing and celebrating Nazism....does that make HIM a Nazi? And if the answer is yes, how is "Baraka Obama" NOT a leftist, marxist Alinskyite? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/04/obama-alinsky-love-song Do you guys ever get tired of comparing Obama to Nazis? I thought that when Bush left office would could put the whole Nazi thing to bed. However I think for the rest of history one party will always accuse the other party of being a bunch of Nazis and fascists. I know people that grew up in real fascist nations under true fascist leaders and to claim that Obama or Bush a Nazi or a fascist is a total insult to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Do you guys ever get tired of comparing Obama to Nazis? Debbie Wasserman Shultz, everyone! Let's give her a big hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Do you guys ever get tired of comparing Obama to Nazis? Congratulations. You're officially dumber than DIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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