Coach Tuesday Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 By "core" I mean the players that the front office needs to build around for the next 5 years or so. OFFENSE: Ryan Fitzpatrick* (would not have made my list but for Ralph's comments last week) C.J. Spiller (has proven over the last month that he can change field position instantly - why they drafted him) Eric Wood Andy Levitre DEFENSE: Marcel Dareus Kyle Williams Aaron Williams Jarius Byrd Let me know if you disagree with these names or if I'm missing anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 + perhaps Pears on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) By "core" I mean the players that the front office needs to build around for the next 5 years or so. OFFENSE: Ryan Fitzpatrick* (would not have made my list but for Ralph's comments last week) C.J. Spiller (has proven over the last month that he can change field position instantly - why they drafted him) Eric Wood Andy Levitre DEFENSE: Marcel Dareus Kyle Williams Aaron Williams Jarius Byrd Let me know if you disagree with these names or if I'm missing anyone. #1- Fred Jackson #2- Kyle Williams #3- Eric Wood #4- Marcell Darius #5- Andy Levitre those are the only "studs" on this team. Edited December 27, 2011 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 By "core" I mean the players that the front office needs to build around for the next 5 years or so. OFFENSE: Ryan Fitzpatrick* (would not have made my list but for Ralph's comments last week) C.J. Spiller (has proven over the last month that he can change field position instantly - why they drafted him) Eric Wood Andy Levitre DEFENSE: Marcel Dareus Kyle Williams Aaron Williams Jarius Byrd Let me know if you disagree with these names or if I'm missing anyone. I would certainly like to keep Stevie Johnson. Also Fred Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 By "core" I mean the players that the front office needs to build around for the next 5 years or so. OFFENSE: Ryan Fitzpatrick* (would not have made my list but for Ralph's comments last week) C.J. Spiller (has proven over the last month that he can change field position instantly - why they drafted him) Eric Wood Andy Levitre DEFENSE: Marcel Dareus Kyle Williams Aaron Williams Jarius Byrd Let me know if you disagree with these names or if I'm missing anyone. Wow, no Jackson or Johnson??? Also, Sheppard should make the list until he proves he doesn't belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 + perhaps Pears on the line. NO way, Pears on a true NFL caliber team would be depth only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Wow, no Jackson or Johnson??? Also, Sheppard should make the list until he proves he doesn't belong. No, Sheppard makes the list when he proves he DOES belong. K. Willians Dareus Barnett Freddy/CJ Wood Levitre Byrd Stevie Fitz (like it or not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalos#1Fan Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Wilson? I feel like he has had a breakout year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 By "core" I mean the players that the front office needs to build around for the next 5 years or so. Let me know if you disagree with these names or if I'm missing anyone. Yours: OFFENSE: Ryan Fitzpatrick Post contract game prep is like Billy Joe Hobart but we have money committed and at least he shows up. If someone at QB falls into our lap then great, Otherwise keep him. C.J. Spiller yes Eric Wood yes Andy Levitre yes DEFENSE: Marcel Dareus yes; top of list Kyle Williams NFW!!!!! He signed a contract and got a boo boo foot and basically quit on the team. Dump the guys with attitudes like this. Take the salary cap hit. Aaron Williams yes #2 on the list Jarius Byrd yes I would add: Jackson Johnson S Chandler Wilson - Maybe a little too old? McKelvin. Yes McKelvin. When he got beat this year he has good coverage and turned the wrong way or the receiver made an awesome catch. He was right there with guys most of the time. Moorman and Lindell I would like to see some other guys like Shepard and Hairston develop into core players but they haven't yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 (edited) McKelvin. Yes McKelvin. When he got beat this year he has good coverage and turned the wrong way or the receiver made an awesome catch. He was right there with guys most of the time. Check this out (bottom chart): http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2011/early-look-2011-cb-charting This sums up what makes McKelvin so maddening. Also maddening is the fact that they basically let Greer walk so that they could start McKelvin... Edited December 27, 2011 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Check this out (bottom chart): http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2011/early-look-2011-cb-charting This sums up what makes McKelvin so maddening. Also maddening is the fact that they basically let Greer walk so that they could start McKelvin... Nice article and stats. Basically says that McKelvin is the typical all or nothing type of DB. While he has been burnt for some big plays he has also made some big stops. When you compare him to Greer he doesn't look so great. But McKelvin is progressing,albeit slowly and not what you want out of a round 1 pick. But i think it would be foolish to let the guy go now, when he is showing signs of being a good DB. Also the Bills might be able to benefit from him not having a totally succesful earl career, and sign him to a managable contract for 3 more years. Oh and he is only 26 his prime should be for atleast another 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Wilson? I feel like he has had a breakout year No question mark necessary. The Senator is core. He's a captain, so the team thinks pretty highly of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Offense: Fitz- Regardless of what anyone thinks or says, he's here to stay and as long as Chan is the HC we won't be drafting another QB for another 2 years. Chan will be all in on Fitz until he's either fired or a stud falls into our laps on draft day. Spiller- I don't get why Chan doesn't think he can't be a feature back. They guy had 16 carries last game and 12 the game before but with 7 receptions but he continues to use Choice on 3rd downs. Ugh!!! Johnson- Regardless if you think he's a true #1 or a #2, he's good and he wants to be here. We have to stop finding talent in the draft only to trade them or let them walk when they actually get good, Greer, Poz, Clements, Winfield, Fat Pat, Fat Ted, Willis, Henry, etc.... I know some of these guys I have said I am glad are gone, but as a whole we need to do what we can to keep these guys and make them happy to be here. If that means tons of cash, then do it. Wood, Levitre, Hairston, Ubrik- see above, don't let these guys walk. Defense: Byrd- No explanation needed A. Williams- No explanation needed Dareus- No explanation needed I'd add K. Williams except I honestly don't believe he's really that good. I feel he was extremely overpaid and doesn't belong in a 3-4 defense at all. If we decide to stick with a 4-3 I'm extrely happy to build around Williams and Dareus as our new version of Williams and Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 By "core" I mean the players that the front office needs to build around for the next 5 years or so. OFFENSE: Ryan Fitzpatrick* (would not have made my list but for Ralph's comments last week) C.J. Spiller (has proven over the last month that he can change field position instantly - why they drafted him) Eric Wood Andy Levitre DEFENSE: Marcel Dareus Kyle Williams Aaron Williams Jarius Byrd Let me know if you disagree with these names or if I'm missing anyone. Perhaps it would help if you define "core player"? Fred Jackson seems like a glaring omission on offense. George Wilson and Nick Barnett seem like glaring omissions on D by any definition. In terms of quality players we ought to re-sign and retain, or continue to develop, I think there's a much longer list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jone's Toupee Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Fred is a top RB and has 3 more years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Perhaps it would help if you define "core player"? Fred Jackson seems like a glaring omission on offense. George Wilson and Nick Barnett seem like glaring omissions on D by any definition. In terms of quality players we ought to re-sign and retain, or continue to develop, I think there's a much longer list. I tried to define it as someone whom the FO believes will be here in 5 years. I love Freddy, but I don't see him making it here that long. Esp. with CJ playing so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 By "core" I mean the players that the front office needs to build around for the next 5 years or so. OFFENSE: Ryan Fitzpatrick* (would not have made my list but for Ralph's comments last week) C.J. Spiller (has proven over the last month that he can change field position instantly - why they drafted him) Eric Wood Andy Levitre DEFENSE: Marcel Dareus Kyle Williams Aaron Williams Jarius Byrd Let me know if you disagree with these names or if I'm missing anyone. Fred Jackson and George Wilson appear to be strong leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I'm surprised no one has mentioned Kraig Urbik. The guy was playing excellent football before he was injured. Wood, Levitre, and Urbik will be the nucleus of the offensive line for many years IF they can stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Shawn Merriman? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET1062 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Brian Moorman is the only core player this team has had in the past 10 years and is the only core player for the next 5 years. Ralph doesn't care! Why do we even waste our time on TBD? Sell the F'ing team Ralph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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