mountainwampus Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Was I wrong about Kelsay? I've been bashing him on TBD for two years and now I'm wondering if he's just playing the wrong position. This was by far his best game of the last 2 season. The thing about playing Tebow is he's the only left-handed quarterback Kelsay has faced this year (was injured vs Vick). Kelsay has a "high motor" and tends to rush WAY outside and gets lead 15 yards into the backfield nearly every play. Vs Tebow this worked, because Tebow obviously didn't study film on Kelsay, and kept dropping back into the "Kelsay zone." He got 2 sacks plus he basically forced the INT to Specer Johnson. Tebow never saw him coming. Now, wouldn't it be smart, at this point, to let Kelsay line up on the opposite side against right-handed quarterbacks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Kelsay plays better out of the 4-3 for sure. He's still a trainwreck of a OLB. Tebow does tend to dance and wheel around in the backfield a lot, so that may have helped Kelsay out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Kelsay proved, in his play against Tebow, that he really is the Devil. This also explains the ridiculous contracts, as Ralph is literally making deals with the Devil to keep himself alive. That is all I can figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Kelsay has always been a great team guy !! He works hard shows up for every game but after losing Schobel every one here thought we could just depend soley on him & he isn't that type of player to just dominate with out other input from other players !! With him getting older i think it would be a good move to bring in a younger player to eventually take his place but the guy has heart & is good in the locker room plus he can be a good mentor to show rookies how it's done as far as a good work ethic .. I don't think he's long for the team because with the way Buddy is drafting for the future his position will be one of depth & a veteran presence very soon but he has definitely given all he's had for our team & i for one like what he brings !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Kelsay proved, in his play against Tebow, that he really is the Devil. This also explains the ridiculous contracts, as Ralph is literally making deals with the Devil to keep himself alive. That is all I can figure out. I think you're on to something. Might explain how "bad" Kelsay is most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Kelsay is in my opinion a good role player but just isnt a starter I think in the right defense and playing in a situational role he could be very effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Could it just be that once in a while a player just has a really good game? Kelsay played his game of the year. As I am told often at work when I do something right, "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Kelsay is in my opinion a good role player but just isnt a starter I think in the right defense and playing in a situational role he could be very effective Hopefully, he will have a situational role on another team next year. because on this team he is paid to well for that role, based on how we construct rosters. He played possibly a career game on Sunday. Games like that just don't come often enough for him. Us losing Schobel doomed him and exposed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 He has always been a decent player, nothing spectacular, not a Pro bowler, but just a decent/good player. The Fans here just expect more, and need their whipping boys to try and run off the team (then B*t*h and moan about how bad the Front office is when they are gone and have a good game) Teebow is a good runner and is elusive, thats why he has had success this year, he can use his feet to get away from rushers and make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill1 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Kelsay isn't bad, but I just don't see him as a guy to lead the defense forward. He cannot play OLB, but George Edwards really isn't bright wnough to move him back to DE. Tebow really is bad. I hate when people continue to make fun of him because he can win, and then there is us. Tebow really isn't that good, but it will take Denver a few losing seasons to figure this out. Edited December 28, 2011 by Buffalo Bill1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Kelsay isn't bad, but I just don't see him as a guy to lead the defense forward. He cannot play OLB, but George Edwards really isn't bright wnough to move him back to DE. Tebow really is bad. I hate when people continue to make fun of him because he can win, and then there is us. Tebow really isn't that good, but it will take Denver a few losing seasons to figure this out. Agreed. Did you see Tebow's sack for a 29 yard loss against the Pats? He drops back WAY too far. No wonder Kelsay had such a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Could it just be that once in a while a player just has a really good game? Kelsay played his game of the year. As I am told often at work when I do something right, "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while." And after that game, Kelsay probably busted said nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 How many times has Kelsay not shown up during his career? - I think you can answer this yourself. He might have one good game a season and saying that might be a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Was I wrong about Kelsay? I've been bashing him on TBD for two years and now I'm wondering if he's just playing the wrong position. This was by far his best game of the last 2 season. The thing about playing Tebow is he's the only left-handed quarterback Kelsay has faced this year (was injured vs Vick). Kelsay has a "high motor" and tends to rush WAY outside and gets lead 15 yards into the backfield nearly every play. Vs Tebow this worked, because Tebow obviously didn't study film on Kelsay, and kept dropping back into the "Kelsay zone." He got 2 sacks plus he basically forced the INT to Specer Johnson. Tebow never saw him coming. Now, wouldn't it be smart, at this point, to let Kelsay line up on the opposite side against right-handed quarterbacks?? Kelsey is a good football player. He is a DE that should line up with his hand on the ground. He should not be an 3-4 OLB playing in coverage or in space because he is not fast enough. Kelsey is a great team player and a true competitor. He gets a lot of bad press here on TSW, but I think real NFL football people would consistently tell you he is a good player that plays hard on every down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Here we go with the Kelsay hate bandwagon... Kelsay is not as good as he looked in the Broncos game, but not as bad as Bills fans make him out to be. Kelsay is strong, and often gets "near" the QB...What Kelsay doesn't have is the closing burst and more important the agility to actually get to the QB. Tebow holds onto the Ball forever, allowing for Kelsay to get to him. Having said that, while Keslay is not a big "sack guy", he does consistently force the QB to move. If we had ANYONE on the other side that occasionally provide any sort of pressure, they could reap the benefits. Let's get someone BETTER than Kelsay, before we cry more about him. Because right now we don't have anyone even close to being better than him. The guy is what he is, an average at best LB that at least gets near the QB consistently. More than I can say for any other OLB on this team. And for those who consistently play the "contract" card. Kelsay is making 2M this year (not a lot for a 9 year vet), thats it. That "big" contract everyone complains about is loaded with incentives that he is not hitting, and roster bonuses that the Bills can avoid by cutting him or restructuring. Edited December 28, 2011 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Kelsay has played out of his natural position for 2 years...and you can argue that he hasn't played in a consistent formation for another 2 years...... He natural DE in a 4-3 defense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I know I'm in the minority here, but I have always believed that if Kelsay has his hand in the dirt, he can make an impact. He is a good 43 DE. As an OLB, it is just embarrassing watching him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I know I'm in the minority here, but I have always believed that if Kelsay has his hand in the dirt, he can make an impact. He is a good 43 DE. As an OLB, it is just embarrassing watching him play. Count me in the minority as well. Perennial TBD Whipping Boy Chris Kelsay is a decent to darn good DE. He is not a good line backer. If we just played him at DE he'd be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Tebow sucks. Kelsay sucks. Please join me, lets all hold hands and pray to santa claus that they are both out of the league soon. Kelsay can get to his farm career in Nebraska, and Tebow can get to his Florida career, praying to santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opfball91 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I thought Kelsay had his best season as a Bill this year, save the injuries. I would actually notice when he was on the field, making what some crazy people call, an "impact." Keep him around, he's paid a lot but its not like we need to save money anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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