sullim4 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but given how things have gone, it's fun to look back on this. Quite a few gems in there: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/83674-fitzpatrick-signed/page__p__1330758__hl__fitzpatrick__fromsearch__1#entry1330758 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but given how things have gone, it's fun to look back on this. Quite a few gems in there: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/83674-fitzpatrick-signed/page__p__1330758__hl__fitzpatrick__fromsearch__1#entry1330758 That's a great thread. Thanks for finding that (I'm glad I didn't post in it!). "Cale" had Fitz pegged all along! Edited October 31, 2011 by Matthews' Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Classic billsfreak, LOL. When he's level-headed he can have some good takes but man, sometimes he gets so bent up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiebills Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 there was a couple that said he should be there but then there was a couple saying trent better stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I wasn't a fan of then signing due to the fact that our starting qb was so injury prone. I was hoping to sign someone I THOUGHT would compete the starting position. I didn't think fitz would do that. Boy was I wrong. The Hiring of chan definitely helped his cause. Glad he's our qb for the next few seasons. I just wish he'd stop throwing off his back foot so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Tindale Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I wish when you typed, you kept your fingers on the home row keys more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Classic billsfreak, LOL. When he's level-headed he can have some good takes but man, sometimes he gets so bent up. Yah, Derek in VA had a doosey in there too. Did GoBills really know Fitz was the QB of the future. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvanvol Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Yah, Derek in VA had a doosey in there too. Did GoBills really know Fitz was the QB of the future. ;-) hahah saw that and even if he was sarcastic i would lie and say i was a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Looking back, I remember thinking a mighty "Well... ok... that's nice... MEH". He didn't do much up until this year, to be honest, so I'm not sure what that thread really shows. We reacted to a player that didn't do well his first few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Might want to pin that thread whenever the Bills sign or draft a player. (Someone should find the Fred Jackson signing). Anyway, this was my favorite part -- Safe to say that none of these QBs have had success since RF signed with the Bills. Here's the rankings he cited: (Scouts.Com) Free Agent QB Rankings Pos Pos Rank Rating Name Type Yr Ht/Wt College 2008 Team Signed Team QB 1 Kurt Warner UFA 11 6-2/222 Northern Iowa Arizona QB 2 Matt Cassel Fran. 4 6-5/225 USC New England New England QB 3 Kerry Collins UFA 14 6-5/245 Penn State Tennessee Tennessee QB 4 Jeff Garcia UFA 10 6-1/205 San Jose State Tampa Bay QB 5 J.T. O'Sullivan UFA 6 6-2/227 UC Davis San Francisco QB 6 Damon Huard UFA 12 6-3/212 Washington Kansas City QB 7 Chris Simms UFA 6 6-4/220 Texas Tennessee QB 8 J.P. Losman UFA 5 6-2/212 Tulane Buffalo QB 9 Byron Leftwich UFA 6 6-5/250 Marshall Pittsburgh QB 10 Joey Harrington UFA 7 6-4/220 Oregon Atlanta QB 11 Kyle Boller UFA 6 6-3/220 California Baltimore QB 12 Rex Grossman UFA 6 6-1/217 Florida Chicago QB 13 Dan Orlovsky UFA 4 6-4/238 Connecticut Detroit QB 14 Trent Green UFA 15 -/- Indiana St. Louis QB 15 Brad Johnson UFA 17 6-5/238 Florida State Dallas QB 16 Patrick Ramsey UFA 8 6-3/225 Tulane Denver QB 17 Charlie Frye UFA 4 6-4/218 Akron Seattle QB 18 Charlie Batch UFA 11 6-2/216 Eastern Michigan Pittsburgh QB 19 Brooks Bollinger UFA 8 6-1/203 Wisconsin Dallas QB 20 Ryan Fitzpatrick UFA 4 6-2/225 Harvard Cincinnati QB 21 Jamie Martin UFA 14 6-2/205 Weber State San Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Might want to pin that thread whenever the Bills sign or draft a player. (Someone should find the Fred Jackson signing). I doubt there is one . . . none of us (like most of the NFL GMs) even knew the guy existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I had a heated argument with my friend who is a packers fan about 2 years ago and I adamantly backed Fitz and said if he ever got a solid opportunity with us he could develop into a special qb and player. He basically laughed and shut me down. I also said when Fred was in NFL Europe that he was gonna be a Superstar for us. So basically....I'm Nostradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Among the players that we were leching after back then, and it comes up somewhere in that thread, was Laveranues Coles. I remember the board throwing a conniption fit when he signed elsewhere. Then he basically never did anything again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Anyway, this was my favorite part -- Safe to say that none of these QBs have had success since RF signed with the Bills. Here's the rankings he cited: (Scouts.Com) Free Agent QB Rankings Pos Pos Rank Rating Name Type Yr Ht/Wt College 2008 Team Signed Team QB 1 Kurt Warner UFA 11 6-2/222 Northern Iowa Arizona QB 2 Matt Cassel Fran. 4 6-5/225 USC New England New England QB 3 Kerry Collins UFA 14 6-5/245 Penn State Tennessee Tennessee QB 4 Jeff Garcia UFA 10 6-1/205 San Jose State Tampa Bay QB 5 J.T. O'Sullivan UFA 6 6-2/227 UC Davis San Francisco QB 6 Damon Huard UFA 12 6-3/212 Washington Kansas City QB 7 Chris Simms UFA 6 6-4/220 Texas Tennessee QB 8 J.P. Losman UFA 5 6-2/212 Tulane Buffalo QB 9 Byron Leftwich UFA 6 6-5/250 Marshall Pittsburgh QB 10 Joey Harrington UFA 7 6-4/220 Oregon Atlanta QB 11 Kyle Boller UFA 6 6-3/220 California Baltimore QB 12 Rex Grossman UFA 6 6-1/217 Florida Chicago QB 13 Dan Orlovsky UFA 4 6-4/238 Connecticut Detroit QB 14 Trent Green UFA 15 -/- Indiana St. Louis QB 15 Brad Johnson UFA 17 6-5/238 Florida State Dallas QB 16 Patrick Ramsey UFA 8 6-3/225 Tulane Denver QB 17 Charlie Frye UFA 4 6-4/218 Akron Seattle QB 18 Charlie Batch UFA 11 6-2/216 Eastern Michigan Pittsburgh QB 19 Brooks Bollinger UFA 8 6-1/203 Wisconsin Dallas QB 20 Ryan Fitzpatrick UFA 4 6-2/225 Harvard Cincinnati QB 21 Jamie Martin UFA 14 6-2/205 Weber State San Francisco To be fair, Warner led his team to an NFC title in 2008. Cassel had a playoff season last year and Collins had a 13-3 season with the Titans in 2008. Leftwich picked up 2 Super Bowl rings as a backup. Edited October 31, 2011 by /dev/null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) Classic billsfreak, LOL. When he's level-headed he can have some good takes but man, sometimes he gets so bent up. Are you stalking me, or just fascinated by my knowledge? I remember you saying "Fitz will be the quarterback of the future and sign a $59 million dollar contract." NOT! Sometimes maybe I get carried away but I am not getting any younger and don't want to spend my last 75 years on this earth with an addiction to a bad team. Edited October 31, 2011 by billsfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Are you stalking me, or just fascinated by my knowledge? I remember you saying "Fitz will be the quarterback of the future and sign a $59 million dollar contract." NOT! Ignoring the wide chasm of opinion between two extremes, aren't we? How about simply admitting you missed on that call? We've all done it. I think the post is all in good fun. Ralph's still cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Are you stalking me, or just fascinated by my knowledge? I remember you saying "Fitz will be the quarterback of the future and sign a $59 million dollar contract." NOT! Sometimes maybe I get carried away but I am not getting any younger and don't want to spend my last 75 years on this earth with an addiction to a bad team. Bent up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Well...Fitz did fail miserably as a mentor to Trent. Slotted behind Brooks Bollinger. Really? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Classic billsfreak, LOL. When he's level-headed he can have some good takes but man, sometimes he gets so bent up. You're giving billsfreak waaaaaay too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'll admit at the time of his signing, I didn't think too much of it. Just figured/hoped he'd be a decent backup to help groom our eventual top draft pick. I certainly didn't envision him becoming a franchise QB. And, IMO, he's still got plenty of upside. The longer he plays in this offense and works on his mechanics, the better he'll get. I'll also throw out there... I was completely underwhelmed with the Chan hiring. Didn't like it at all and was certain that by about now we'd be looking forward to the next big head coach prospect. I was completely wrong. I did, however, see Freddie running in NFL Europe and liked him from day one. So 1 out of 3 ain't bad.... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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