PDaDdy Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 If there's one thing you should have learned about Gailey/Nix by now, it's that they don't care where you were drafted or how long you've been around. The guy who puts them in the best position to win will play. Exhibit A -- not forcing Spiller into the games when Jackson is playing all-world. Exhibit B -- Dareus has been starting from day one. There are more examples. I agree for the most part but in every organization to an extent there is the veteran rule. Down to college and even high school. For instance Trent Edwards starting last season was a bit of the veteran rule in my opinion. Perhaps it might better be called the incumbent rule. I happen to like both RBs but Jackson as you mention took some time to unseat Lynch. If as some people think that Jackson is light years ahead of Lynch why did Lynch even start? It is not the only factor. Sometimes it's not even a large factor but it IS a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Is it just me or did Shep look a tad slow on the play where Vick ran 50+ yds? McD EVERYBODY looked a tad slow on Vick's 50 yard run....its Michael Vick Shep sure did look good though when he munched Vick causing the Burnett int for a touchdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I saw it on another board and then went and listened myself to see if it was true, and it was. Drayton Florence on GR said the whole team prepared a lot for the game watching film, and Kelvin Shepard was on the field calling out the plays before the Eagles ran them. It was his first substantial playing time in his career. That's pretty amazing. Already one of my favorite players. Amazing, indeed! Didn't hear this. It shows a lot of confidence in the rookie. Confidence repayed. McShay said at the time of his draft selection, he'd be starting by mid-season -fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Funny, I was thinking about this today, that it won't be long (or at least I hope it won't) until we have the following 3-4: Dareus - Williams - Carrington Moats - Shep - Barnett - Merriman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 Funny, I was thinking about this today, that it won't be long (or at least I hope it won't) until we have the following 3-4: Dareus - Williams - Carrington Moats - Shep - Barnett - Merriman I'm hoping to see that as well because it will mean that we drafted good guys that have developed and can contribute quickly to a statistically very poorly ranked defense from 2010. Our numbers aren't much better but as a whole I have more confidence in this defense and expect and hope for continued improvement every few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) I saw it on another board and then went and listened myself to see if it was true, and it was. Drayton Florence on GR said the whole team prepared a lot for the game watching film, and Kelvin Shepard was on the field calling out the plays before the Eagles ran them. It was his first substantial playing time in his career. That's pretty amazing. Already one of my favorite players. Yeah, you could see it during several of the snaps he played… pre-snap he was turning around and yelling to his teammates and waving his arms and pointing. Edited October 12, 2011 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 The issue is more "why in the hell would the BILLS have Shep playing Spy when he's obviously overmatched for the job"? Bad scheme, bad result. Which Bills' LB wouldn't have been over-matched for that job? As for Rubes' question as to whether Shep slipped, he did, which led him to be out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Which Bills' LB wouldn't have been over-matched for that job? As for Rubes' question as to whether Shep slipped, he did, which led him to be out of position. That, and you don't play man coverage against Vick either which we were on that play so all of the DBs were trailing receivers and not looking into the backfield at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welborn9 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Is it just me or did Shep look a tad slow on the play where Vick ran 50+ yds? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Ya man. The future looks bright for these two if they don't get boned by the "veteran" rule. It's early and it's one game but I definitely knew those guys were on the field Sunday. I hope they continue to make plays and get more playing time whether it means a "solid veteran" needs to get less. Does anyone know who Sheppard replaced? Wasn't it Andre Davis ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Everyone looks a tad slow when Vick runs. But yes, I think he took a bad angle. BTW, did anyone see that terrible hold on Vicks 1st run? I can't remember who it was on, but the guy was holding either Wood's or Reinheart's jersey from behind. I mean..... literally! Refs are really missing holds this year. someone was on the bills' sideline holding their jerseys? he should get back in the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Wasn't it Andre Davis ?? Yes. Gailey loves Davis though, so I doubt he is going to replace him anytime soon, barring injury, especially on first downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 add batten and you've got a trio of decent lb's Batten will be our Matthews. Funny, I was thinking about this today, that it won't be long (or at least I hope it won't) until we have the following 3-4: Dareus - Williams - Heard Moats - Shep - Barnett - Batten Much better now. Then Draft Courtney Upshaw 6'2" 270 from alabama to eventually replace Barnett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Which Bills' LB wouldn't have been over-matched for that job? All of them, which is why George Wilson spent so much of the first half playing that role. The question is more whether he was supposed to be that deep or if the defensive line was supposed to execute better gap control - they absolutely abandoned lane discipline, which is really what led to Sheppard looking like a Clydesdale chasing a greyhound. It was a little unnerving that they changed from what was working, though it's not like I have coach's tape or overheads to look at. Wasn't it Andre Davis ?? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 If your defense is working, then expect the other team to change what isn't working for them. Then expect you to change your defense in return. This was heresy to Jaruon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan369 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 You dont cross the moats while the sheppard is out there!!!!! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 All of them, which is why George Wilson spent so much of the first half playing that role. The question is more whether he was supposed to be that deep or if the defensive line was supposed to execute better gap control - they absolutely abandoned lane discipline, which is really what led to Sheppard looking like a Clydesdale chasing a greyhound. I can excuse one busted (albeit it huge) play against the greatesst scrambling QB of all time. And again, Shep slipped and couldn't recover fast enough. Speaking of which, that turf is incredibly slippery and I've seen lots of players slipping in every game. I don't know if that's how they all are when first installed, but I hope that improves in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Yes. Gailey loves Davis though, so I doubt he is going to replace him anytime soon, barring injury, especially on first downs. Gailey does love Davis, but a bunch of the veterans on the team including Davis have been pushing to get Sheppard on the field more. http://wgr550.com/Davis-More-Than-Just-a-Linebacker-to-Bills/11159304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Moats and Sheppard = Thunder and Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Moats and Sheppard are THE WHIP, gents! That's the fact, Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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