DCBongo Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I am happy a fan in Baltimore is happy with Evans. He was a good Bill, but lets face it, the team should be better than 4-12, but we are not talking 12-4. We get to see how good our younger receivers are and Lee gets to play on a playoff potential team. Given his loyalty to the Bills, he deserves it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Pat Williams, Greer, Winfield, Clements, Jim Leonard, Peters, Fletcher, Spikes, Lynch, add Poz to that list now. Clements shouldn't be on that list. And I would only have spikes on there, because with our LBs, he would be an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I live and work in Chicago, and I think this quote says it all: Me: Bills just traded Lee Evans to Baltimore Guy in my office: Who's Lee Evans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Lynch? Poz? Spikes? Are we stretching things a little? PTR As long as we save some money so we can extend Kelsay next year, who cares????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Mason has been a better receiver throughout his career, and especially over the past 2 years, than Lee was, and they released Mason. I don't know what they think Lee will do for them that Mason couldn't. And many think that Lee has lost a step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Mason has been a better receiver throughout his career, and especially over the past 2 years, than Lee was, and they released Mason. I don't know what they think Lee will do for them that Mason couldn't. And many think that Lee has lost a step. I totally agree Mason has been a better receiver and it's not close. But I suppose the reason they aquired Evans is for the deep threat. Mason has never been that, especially the last several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Pat Williams, Greer, Winfield, Clements, Jim Leonard, Peters, Fletcher, Spikes, Lynch, add Poz to that list now. about 3 of those people are close to worth their contracts (greer, pat williams who i believe is now retired, and winfield). peters is a good player, but over-hyped. clements? cut. jim leonard? haven't heard his name mentioned since he left baltimore. fletcher? great person, same problem as poz - gets dragged downfield constantly. lynch? had the memorable run but wasn't quite an All-pro in seattle last year... spikes has never been same since achilles injury... you all just think they are great because they have a "name" for themselves but there are practical reasons thee people were let go for higher contracts. funny - but only a few of them went to winning teams. what does that tell you??? its all about the money to them. on a more impt note. We should be getting compensation picks this year for Poz and Whitner, and relatively high one for Poz too. Don't think Buddy doesn't know this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvrOfficiousJerk Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 jim leonard? haven't heard his name mentioned since he left baltimore. In his defense, Leonard got injured last year with quite a bit of the season to go, that's probably why you didn't hear much of him. Before that though, and his first year with the Jets, he was pretty solid. But again, as I said before, even he wasn't a lock to be a big-time defensive back based on his performance in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Mario Haggan started at LB for the Broncos the last 2 years, and got 5 sacks last year. Mario was our special teams star most of the years Coy Wire had that reputation. I remember watching Stamer, Crowell and Haggan develop, wondering which would differentiate themselves from the others and become starter-quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 We got TWO #3s for McGoofus. I guess we couldn't pull off another deal that good again. PTR That trade was in the back of Newsome's mind when he was only willing to give up a #4 for a much better player...this was revenge on the part of the Ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 welp, they cut McGahee this year after a couple of lackluster seasons. lets see how great they make Evans... They cut him because they have a young Ray Rice and are deep at RB. He was pretty good for them and they more than got their value out of him considering how little they gave up to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 welp, they cut McGahee this year after a couple of lackluster seasons. lets see how great they make Evans... Baltimore got 4 seasons out of McGahee, that's one more than the Bills got out of their 1st round pick who spent his rookie year rehabing his knee. They don't have to make Evans great, they just have to have him take some heat off Boldin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Seriously, wouldn't you be stoked if you just traded a 4th round pick for Lee Evans? Does anyone really think the probabilities are high that any team (not just us) would get a 4th round pick that produces more than Evans (and yes, I know his age)? Moss went to the Pats for a 4th round pick. Moss to the Vikings for a fourth round pick. Ochocinco to the Pats for a 4th round pick. Evans has not produced like either of those two. Getting a fourth is pretty good for our 3rd best WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defend Greece Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I live and work in Chicago, and I think this quote says it all: Me: Bills just traded Lee Evans to Baltimore Guy in my office: Who's Lee Evans? Ummm that doesn't say anything but he doesn't watch alot of football There are plenty of people who don't know who Kyle is Dude what a dumb remark, if lee was a diva and then he would know him, you and your friend are clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) This pic from Arizona says it all... Guess who is missing? Edited August 13, 2011 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Coy Wire going into his 10th season. Dude must be something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I live and work in Chicago, and I think this quote says it all: Me: Bills just traded Lee Evans to Baltimore Guy in my office: Who's Lee Evans? Great perspective. It's not like they were trading Jerry Rice (or pick your favorite HOF receiver) in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstealer Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Coy Wire going into his 10th season. Dude must be something right. That's unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstealer Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Overrated IMO. Mary Ann was way better. Prolly that school girl thing she had going. The pigtails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habes1280 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 what's funny is that we tried to re-sign almost all of those guys-- PW, AW, Greer, Fletcher, and Poz. Even Peters was more of a contract issue, and Clements would have broken the bank. Baltimore is good because they draft really well and hang onto their own great guys. I don't recall their trades and FA signings being all that great--trading for Boldin (sub-par year last year), and McGahee (sub-par career) weren't very successful. Unless I'm completely misremembering things, Pat Williams was willing to take less money to stay in Buffalo, and the front office was disinterested. I don't remember the succeeding GM (Marv Levy) making a serious effort to retain Fletcher, either. Both would have come back for a reasonable salary, and played for a losing franchise, because they believed in the team and they believed in the city. I take no issue with losing Clements, Winfield, or even Greer-- we lost bidding wars to richer teams in each case-- but I think the point being made throughout this thread is that there WERE, in fact, talented players who wanted to stay, and it's those guys we were remiss to let go. New front offices seldom have loyalty to the stalwarts acquired by previous regimes. They want to put their own signature(s) on the team. I understand and accept that, but when you continue to lose seasoned talent and build anew, or to sacrifice proven talent and leadership in the quest for a new direction and identity, you are, as the Baltimore poster suggested, doing the wrong thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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