Captain Caveman Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Can you teach dirty? Wilfork is one of the dirtiest SOB s in the NFL and when he takes a cheap shot at our QB, I want someone who will even the score on Brady. I still can't believe that we didn't gave someone take a run at Brady (penalty & fines be damned) when Wilfork blatantly took out Losman's knee. Dickie J declared himself a giant pussycat that day. You have to get to the qb to take him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Lonnie Harvey? yup. thats the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Comparing him to Leif Larsen is not relevant. I'd say it's about as relevant as comparing him to Vince Wilfork. Wilfork had production in college against quality teams. Larsen and Jasper do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Lonnie Harvey? Not exactly Jasper. Height: 6'3" Weight: 345lbs Bench: 19 reps Vert Jump: 25" Broad Jump: 8'6" Vs Jasper Height: 6'4" Weight: 378lbs Bench: 34 reps Vert Jump: 33" Broad Jump: 9'6" Edited May 4, 2011 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I'm excited at his numbers too, but two words come to mind to temper the enthusiasm until the pads go on: Leif Larsen Leif Larsen had one good measurable…his bench press. He couldn't dunk a basketball. He didn't have all-around freakish athletic ability. Yes, we're all getting a bit excited but it's because this guy is a physical freak. Comparing him to Leif Larsen is not relevant. I'd say it's about as relevant as comparing him to Vince Wilfork. Wilfork had production in college against quality teams. Larsen and Jasper do not. Well that's true but I didn't compare him to Vince Wilfork. Mike Jasper said in his radio interview that he emulates Vince Wilfork…just like Marcell Dareus said that he emulates Warren Sapp. I think that's where this thread topic derived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about we wait and see if Jasper can make the team first before we start drawing comparisons to one of the league's premier NTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Watch his agility drill....this is crazy for someone his size: http://www.youtube.com/user/DynastyFootball#p/u/8/Gc8-n-LaWTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about we wait and see if Jasper can make the team first before we start drawing comparisons to one of the league's premier NTs. That's fine…but Jasper made the comparison. That's why this thread exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 A better comparison would be to Haloti Ngata, who was 6'4" 338# at the Combine and ran a 5.13, had a 31-1/2 VJ, a 9'2" BJ, and did 37 reps of 225#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 A better comparison would be to Haloti Ngata, who was 6'4" 338# at the Combine and ran a 5.13, had a 31-1/2 VJ, a 9'2" BJ, and did 37 reps of 225#. Apparently you didn't receive the memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Who was the huge DT that could do backflips a couple years ago? Yea he never even made a practice squad after hype like this. Patience. I haven't scanned all 73 threads about him but what was the issue that kept him out of big time schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I want Jasper to succeed just as much as anyone.....but I bet you Chris Spielman's combine numbers were crap..... But he is a heck of a football player...... There comes a time when you have to step away from the measured athletic numbers and see if they can actually play football......this got Jasper drafted....now we really found out what he is about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Watch his agility drill....this is crazy for someone his size: youtube.com/user/DynastyFootball#p/u/8/Gc8-n-LaWTY We should have drafted him in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Those numbers prove absolutely nothing. They are only suggestive - they hint that the kid may have the athletic talent to play in the NFL. Whether the talent translates is very much an open question. The odds are very much against the kid but the reward to the Bills could be very high if he does turn into a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I haven't scanned all 73 threads about him but what was the issue that kept him out of big time schools? He initially committed with Ol Miss, but then they went through a coaching change. So he decided to on Florida, but their coach left as well. He did a year at some small school, but then go homesick, and went to Bethel instead so he could stay closer to home. Most of this can be found here: http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article412321.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Wow, since when did all the Bills fans turn to optimists? lol. I am excited about the pick since it was our last of the draft, high ceiling, low risk. But come on, seriously? The guy has never played in an NFL game, or even a mediocre level college game for that matter, and he is being compared to one of the best NT's in football? There isn't even any tape of him playing. Does he know anything about playing in the NFL, or against the big, athletic, experienced )O-linemen in the NFL? Does he have the proper leverage, or the smarts to understand the playbook? Stamina to play more than 2 downs in a row? Heck the guy was 450 lbs a few months ago. Remember mike Williams? He was similar in size, and drafted number 4 overall. Size+numbers does not necessarily = success. My hope is first, just for this guy to be good enough to make the team. If he can do that, MAYBE he could be develop into a real player like Jason Peters did. I want him to succeed as much or more than anyone else, reality just tells me odds are against it... Edited May 4, 2011 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Vince Wilfork at 2004 combine - 6'1" 323 lbs 40 time: 5.21 Bench 225 lbs: 36 Vert Jump: 26.5" Broad Jump: 8'5" 20 yrd shuffle:4.5 Michael Jasper private Bills workout - 6'4" 1/2 378 lbs 40 time: 5.38 -.17 sec Bench 225 lbs: 34 -2 reps Vert Jump: 32" + 5.5" Broad Jump: 9'5" + 1' 20 yrd shuffle: ? "The Shadow" kills Wilfork in the vert and broad jump, he is slightly under Wilfork in bench and 40 time. All while being 55 lbs heavier and 3.5" taller. Get this kid in the NFL weight room and training facilities. We could have the best NT in the NFL! Can't wait to see him in action!! Did I miss something? Whats with all the excitement and threads about a 7th round draft pick and now being compared to someone like Wilfork? Didn't we just draft Dareus? Isn't this guy a long shot to make the team based on the mix of young prospects and vets we have on the DLine anyway? I fully admit I don't know much about this guy, so am I missing something? Was he a beast in college and just slipped or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Did I miss something? Whats with all the excitement and threads about a 7th round draft pick and now being compared to someone like Wilfork? Didn't we just draft Dareus? Isn't this guy a long shot to make the team based on the mix of young prospects and vets we have on the DLine anyway? I fully admit I don't know much about this guy, so am I missing something? Was he a beast in college and just slipped or something? lol +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Why no game film for Jasper? I haven't seen a single clip. 25 years ago,my high school taped games, I'm sure Bethel did as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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