If the Bills drafted so bad....

[RkFast]

...how come every coupla hours I see a former Bill in the PLAYOFFS making HUGE plays and scoring touchdowns?

[NoSaint]

You mean the Greer pick? Or the marshawn run? Or the mcgahee run? I'm scared to see what Jason peters does now. Probably carries mike Vick on his back for a td at this rate. The eagles special teams and defensive backs will probably be technically sound and make explosive plays

[ohiotim]

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, but they can't play. Examples: Aaron Maybin, John McCargo, James Hardy.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, they can play, but they either 1) coach them poorly 2) can't figure out how to use them or 3) don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go, at which point they go on to success with other teams. Examples: Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch, Nate Clements, Antonie Winfield.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is develop free agent signings, but when they become successful, don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go. Examples: Jabari Greer, Pat Williams, Jason Peters.

 

1% of what the Bills do is right.

[VirginiaMike]

Another example -- we draft someone who plays the same position as our strength and then have to9 trade from our strength -- see Lynch, greer, ...

[NoSaint]

Another example -- we draft someone who plays the same position as our strength and then have to9 trade from our strength -- see Lynch, greer, ...

 

If only we even traded Greer. Let him walk.

 

Fletcher and poz?

[aristocrat]

lose pat williams...try to draft mccargo

draft mcgahee when we have henry and then trade willis and draft lynch then draft spiller when you have freddy and lynch and trade lynch

draft mckelvin when you have greer and mcgee

 

pat williams could have been signed, so could greer. this is why i could see us losing poz and whitner then draft peterson and some lb in the 2nd round and our defense stays about the same next year. poz and whitner aren't elite but they are decent players and should be extended so we can build on this defense.

[Albany,n.y.]

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, but they can't play. Examples: Aaron Maybin, John McCargo, James Hardy.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, they can play, but they either 1) coach them poorly 2) can't figure out how to use them or 3) don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go, at which point they go on to success with other teams. Examples: Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch, Nate Clements, Antonie Winfield.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is develop free agent signings, but when they become successful, don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go. Examples: Jabari Greer, Pat Williams, Jason Peters.

 

1% of what the Bills do is right.

You left out the percentage of unresticted free agent OL disasters that the team has signed. Examples: Green, Walker, Dockery, Fowler, Reyes, Anderson. These guys make the signings of Villarrial, Teague & Panos look good.

[....lybob]

You left out the percentage of unresticted free agent OL disasters that the team has signed. Examples: Green, Walker, Dockery, Fowler, Reyes, Anderson. These guys make the signings of Villarrial, Teague & Panos look good.

I wish we had Walker as our RT right now - sometimes I wish I wasn't a Bill's fan because then they'd be hilarious- Peters and Walker were a pretty good tackle combination and we had problems on the interior of the line - so of course we get rid of our tackles.

[LancasterSteve]

You left out the percentage of unresticted free agent OL disasters that the team has signed. Examples: Green, Walker, Dockery, Fowler, Reyes, Anderson. These guys make the signings of Villarrial, Teague & Panos look good.

 

All stifts

Well You know as well as I that good teams rarely let good O-linemen hit FA

[Red]

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, but they can't play. Examples: Aaron Maybin, John McCargo, James Hardy.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, they can play, but they either 1) coach them poorly 2) can't figure out how to use them or 3) don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go, at which point they go on to success with other teams. Examples: Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch, Nate Clements, Antonie Winfield.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is develop free agent signings, but when they become successful, don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go. Examples: Jabari Greer, Pat Williams, Jason Peters.

 

1% of what the Bills do is right.

 

This is really pretty good, IMO.

 

I seriously don't know why Modrak and Co. continue to have defenders.

 

Greer was another of those undrafted college free agents that we seem to find every year. Peters too. Lynch was miffed about us drafting Spiller, and I think that he wanted out, too.

 

But I don't know how you can overlook Mike Williams, John McCargo, James Hardly, Erik Flowers, JP Losman, and Drew Bledsoe. Not too mention Clements was way overpaid and is gone, Schobel is now retired, Evans is a ghost in most games, Lynch was really starting to get serious offseason and off-field issues, and McKelvin does not seem to be the lock down corner we all hoped that he would be.

 

Oh, and did I mention Whitner? Aaron Maybin? Seriously. Aaron Maybin was well scouted?

 

This team has basically blown its first round draft picks for the entire decade.

 

Stop defending Modrak and the scouting department.

 

Our first good draft was Nix's first with the Bills. Wood, Bryd are good. Spiller will be. He kinda reminds me of McFadden. Took some time to find his way, but he will. The jury is still out on this years draft- though I think we will be pleasantly surprised.

 

Let's see what a #3 overall turns into, before we start talking about how great our scouting staff now is.

 

For a small market team like the Bills who will rely on the draft, the scouting department has got to be the backbone of the franchise.

 

Modrak has had 10 years on the job. He has only proven that he is terrible.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Red

[Bob in STL]

...how come every coupla hours I see a former Bill in the PLAYOFFS making HUGE plays and scoring touchdowns?

 

 

The drafting has been poor because there is no cohesive plan to build from. So we draft RBs and DBs and WRs over, and over, and over again.

 

There is no cohesive plan because there is constant change.

 

There is constant change because the team is poorly managed.

 

The team is poorly run because no one in the front office has been capable enough to get the job done.

 

No one in the front office is capable because the owner has not found the right person yet.

 

Why? I don't know?

[BillsVet]

Modrak has had 10 years on the job. He has only proven that he is terrible.

 

Ironic you use the word "terrible" to describe the drafting this decade. Because that's exactly the same word the owner used to describe their drafting after the Miami win. Still, the college scouting department remains virtually unchanged despite the terrible track record there.

 

Buddy's first draft underwhelmed, but it's very early. That 09 draft has thus far yielded 2 decent to solid interior Olineman, a safety who may be improving, and little else. Finding interior lineman and safeties is nice, but taking them in the first two rounds means you should hit. Most teams use fewer resources and draft just as well at those positions.

 

The Bills remain weakest at the positions that are the hardest to find: QB, OT, pass rusher, and CB. Some things never change I guess.

Edited January 9, 2011 by BillsVet

[Thoner7]

I will volunteer to replace whoever get paid to be that bad in the bills FO

[Max997]

...how come every coupla hours I see a former Bill in the PLAYOFFS making HUGE plays and scoring touchdowns?

 

so you think the Bills have been drafting well then is that what you are saying?

 

McGahee is a backup and scored a garbage TD. Lynch can play, everyone knew that so this is no surprise

[BigBuff423]

I was thinking the exact same thing as I watched McGahee run for that touchdown! I started thinking about all of the former Bills that were currently in the playoffs: Jim Leonard, McGahee, Lynch, Peters, Greer, Johnathon Scott, Sam Aiken (if he's still with the Pats), and there may be others that I'm not thinking of, but that's two running backs, a Pro Bowl LT and starting CB and Safety and reserve/Special Teamer and starting tackle for the Steelers. That's a lot of talent, and this is of course not mentioning other talent that's starting for other teams as some others have mentioned Winfield and Clements. And except for Scott (at least to my knowledge) those are players that the Bills either out-right drafted or got as UDFAs meaning that scouting can't be all of the problem there has to be some other dysfunction on draft day when you look at the Aaron Maybins, Donte Whitners, and Mike Williams of the Bills over the last 10 years. Disturbing...especially considering we are "building through the draft"! Which, I fully agree with in principle, but I also believe that you have to get at least a few impacting FAs that can contribute immediately while you "build through the draft". I don't want to be the Redskins but it would be nice to be someone like the Eagles who "build through the draft" but also get guys like Peters and Asante Samuel to contribute in the necessary areas of weakness. Ho-hum....I guess we'll see.

[RealityCheck]

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, but they can't play. Examples: Aaron Maybin, John McCargo, James Hardy.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, they can play, but they either 1) coach them poorly 2) can't figure out how to use them or 3) don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go, at which point they go on to success with other teams. Examples: Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch, Nate Clements, Antonie Winfield.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is develop free agent signings, but when they become successful, don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go. Examples: Jabari Greer, Pat Williams, Jason Peters.

 

1% of what the Bills do is right.

Ouch!

[PS 56]

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, but they can't play. Examples: Aaron Maybin, John McCargo, James Hardy.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, they can play, but they either 1) coach them poorly 2) can't figure out how to use them or 3) don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go, at which point they go on to success with other teams. Examples: Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch, Nate Clements, Antonie Winfield.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is develop free agent signings, but when they become successful, don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go. Examples: Jabari Greer, Pat Williams, Jason Peters.

 

1% of what the Bills do is right.

 

 

Argghhhh, why oh why do I love this team so? Its like I live for abuse.

[Dorkington]

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, but they can't play. Examples: Aaron Maybin, John McCargo, James Hardy.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is draft a player, they can play, but they either 1) coach them poorly 2) can't figure out how to use them or 3) don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go, at which point they go on to success with other teams. Examples: Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch, Nate Clements, Antonie Winfield.

 

33% of what the Bills do wrong is develop free agent signings, but when they become successful, don't wanna pay them big money, and let them go. Examples: Jabari Greer, Pat Williams, Jason Peters.

 

1% of what the Bills do is right.

This made me laugh and cry all at once

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

How do I know this team's drafted badly? Answer: rookie contributions. I watched 4 playoff games that had rookies contribute. Our rookies can't even contribute in the regular season. For some reason this team's incapable of drafting nfl-ready players.

[Helpmenow]

For the past ten years the ship has been rudderless prior to Nix getting there. Whom has minding the store RW!