bisonbrigade Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) One of the few 1st rounders that the team picked in the last five years that did anything, and they trade him for just a 4th rounder. This front office is run like a complete joke!!!!!!! Edited October 5, 2010 by bisonbrigade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Don't think we would have accepted a 4th from those teams..it'd almost be a 5th as they're pretty good. Seattle's 4th probably a better bet. They wanted a 3rd from the Eagles.... Anyway, our 1st round picks from the decade of the Aughts are lookin' like a bunch of zeros 2002- Mike Williams Out of football for awhile, may be in the NFL again, I don't know but a colossal bust 2003- Willis McGahee- No longer on team. Decent player, though 2004- Lee Evans- still with team, but possibly the most overpaid WR in football. The guy bears no resemblance to say, Andre Johnson and is a one trick pony. J.P. Losman- bust, out of NFL 2005 no 1st 2006 Donte Whitner- below average safety who makes no plays. Decent locker room presence, but that's about it. Huge reach that Kiper thought may have been available in the 3rd round. John McCargo- team tried to trade him once and was inactive vs Jets team that rolled up nearly 300 yards on the ground. Enough said? 2007 Marshawn Lynch- Traded 2008 Leodis McKelvin - Jury still out. Why did the Bills not want Ryan Clady ? 2009 Aaron Maybin- Probably the next cut. Can't play the run and gets no pass rush. Picked over many better players that start for their teams and make pro bowls. Wow. How does Tom Modrak keep his job? I suspect that Seattle will win that division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I do not fault them for this. It is simply posturing to say he is not available. If they publicly say Lynch is available, how does that help? I can't believe this simple fact has been so elusive for so many. Is it not obvious they cannot show their hand? What value is there for NFL teams in revealing details in any roster moves before the fact anyhow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Running backs are a dime a dozen. That the Bills drafted 3 with first round picks in a decade and picked one O-lineman (a guard no less) is why the RBs suck. Good line + average RB = great RB. See Denver, the Shanny years, where he had a 150 yard/week RB no matter who it was. Only a HOF RB behind a bad line actually looks good. Sanders made a lousy line look good. Not many can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 you can blame New England for us only getting a 4th rounder. they just reset the bar when they traded their former #1 RB Lawrence Maroney for a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 you can blame New England for us only getting a 4th rounder. they just reset the bar when they traded their former #1 RB Lawrence Maroney for a 4th. Not that it makes any difference, but Lynch is a better player than Maroney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Heard they were offered more for Lynch in April, but they weren't listening to offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Don't think we would have accepted a 4th from those teams..it'd almost be a 5th as they're pretty good. Seattle's 4th probably a better bet. They wanted a 3rd from the Eagles.... Anyway, our 1st round picks from the decade of the Aughts are lookin' like a bunch of zeros 2002- Mike Williams Out of football for awhile, may be in the NFL again, I don't know but a colossal bust 2003- Willis McGahee- No longer on team. Decent player, though 2004- Lee Evans- still with team, but possibly the most overpaid WR in football. The guy bears no resemblance to say, Andre Johnson and is a one trick pony. J.P. Losman- bust, out of NFL 2005 no 1st 2006 Donte Whitner- below average safety who makes no plays. Decent locker room presence, but that's about it. Huge reach that Kiper thought may have been available in the 3rd round. John McCargo- team tried to trade him once and was inactive vs Jets team that rolled up nearly 300 yards on the ground. Enough said? 2007 Marshawn Lynch- Traded 2008 Leodis McKelvin - Jury still out. Why did the Bills not want Ryan Clady ? 2009 Aaron Maybin- Probably the next cut. Can't play the run and gets no pass rush. Picked over many better players that start for their teams and make pro bowls. Wow. How does Tom Modrak keep his job? I can beat this. By the start of the 2011 season (if there is one), the only guys still on the Bills team on that list are probably McKelvin and Evans. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Not that it makes any difference, but Lynch is a better player than Maroney. Which is why the Bills did way better in getting a 4th for him straight up, instead of having to include a 6th round pick as the Pats did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 How quickly people forget that Lynch had the best start to a career since Thomas. But hey he is a thug so he is porbably no good. Now he gets to play behind a good line, I hope he tears it up out there. Freddie runs behind the same OL and averages quite a bit more per carry than Lynch (4.5 per carry vs. 4.0 for their careers). Yes, only the Bills would use a top 10 pick to draft a RB when they have two guys on their roster who have posted 1000k seasons and both average over 4.0ypc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Not that it makes any difference, but Lynch is a better player than Maroney. Yup. An early 4th rounder vs. a late 4th rounder. Lynch is nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I suspect that Seattle will win that division. Right. But draft order is by record,not division status. That division might take only 8 or 9 wins, so Seattle could win it. Eagles and Packers could win 10 or 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Best of luck to Beast Mode. I like the way he plays. He has some growing up to do, but I dont think he is a criminal or anything like that. I think he will have a fine career and good for him that he goes to a real team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 While I'll miss Beast Mode in Buffalo and while I would like to have seen a little more value (though two picks seems like a fair deal depending on that 2012 conditional), this deal had to be made. We don't need three RB's all competing for carries - in the end no one gets into a game flow when they all only get 5 carries a piece. Sure Marshawn / CJ could have been awesome, if we didn't have 1,000 other needs! Goodbye Marshawn, I'll pour a little of my 40 out and waive a crushed blunt in the air in your honor tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Not really happy with the trade, but whatever. Could be something we dont know, like Lynch and his agent told Buffalo that they would not be re-signing here no matter what. If that was the case then at least we got something for him. I thought he still had another year left on his contract though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b stein 22 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 what a waste Inst that what we got for Mcgahee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) Not that it makes any difference, but Lynch is a better player than Maroney. i agree.....will be interesting to see what that "conditional" pick is. Edited October 5, 2010 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Yup. An early 4th rounder vs. a late 4th rounder. Lynch is nothing special. My hunch is that Seattle will have a better record than Denver this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 My first 2 thoughts: 1.) I had been encouraged that the Bills were holding out for value. Assuming that conditional pick is low (which is usually the case), I'm very discouraged. We got 2 third-rounders and a 7th-rounder for McGahee. A four (even a high four) and maybe a seven next year is not very good. I thought it would take a second-rounder to get Lynch, especially since there are multiple confirmed suitors (Seahawks, Packers, Eagles), and 2 of them are fairly desperate. Sometimes a contender will overpay for an in-season trade, because their focus is on winning it all *this* year, and next year's draft can't help that. See San Diego giving the Dolphins a 2nd-rounder for Chris Chambers a few years ago. 2.) If I'm a Packers fan, I'm furious right now. How dumb is their management that they wouldn't pony up a third-rounder to get Lynch? Has Ted Thompson watched any games since Ryan Grant got hurt? Brandon Jackson and John Kuhn are taking them nowhere. Lynch could've been the difference between winning the Super Bowl and losing in the first round of the playoffs. I'm sure whatever RB they draft next year will be really solid, but you'd think they'd have a little more urgency to take advantage of the opportunity they have right now. Obviously, if the conditional pick turns out to be something of significant value, that will completely change my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 i agree.....will be interesting to see what that "conditionall" pick is. Usually a 6-7 depending on performance. Don't hold your breath that it's more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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