San-O Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I understand it really doesn't matter if you're winning games, which Buffalo isn't, but how many teams in the NFL have as many 1st and 2nd round picks not starting? I see: 1. Lynch 1st 2. Maybin 1st 3. McLuvin 1st 4. Hardy 2nd Are there others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I understand it really doesn't matter if you're winning games, which Buffalo isn't, buthow many teams in the NFL have as many 1st and 2nd round picks not starting? I see: 1. Lynch 1st 2. Maybin 1st 3. McLuvin 1st 4. Hardy 2nd Are there others? Parrish 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 McCargo. Basically any first round pick the past 10 years not named Lee Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 how many teams in the NFL have as many 1st and 2nd round picks not starting? I don't know, why don't you look into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsZubaz Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 McCargo - 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I don't know, why don't you look into it? lol - it's called the Internet, welcome to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I understand it really doesn't matter if you're winning games, which Buffalo isn't, buthow many teams in the NFL have as many 1st and 2nd round picks not starting? I see: 1. Lynch 1st 2. Maybin 1st 3. McLuvin 1st 4. Hardy 2nd Are there others? This is an pointless argument. Let's assume every player you draft is a bust, but every player you sign as an UDFA turns out to be a Pro Bowler? In the end, does it matter one lick how a player wound up on your team as long as they help you win? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Yup. It's amazing. You can shuffle coaches all you want, but nothing will improve until the personnel evaluators who made those awful selections are replaced... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Have Spiller and Troup been named starters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This is an pointless argument. Let's assume every player you draft is a bust, but every player you sign as an UDFA turns out to be a Pro Bowler? In the end, does it matter one lick how a player wound up on your team as long as they help you win? PTR If you can't hit in the first round at least 50% of the time, your FO sucks. But, a valid point nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This is an pointless argument. Let's assume every player you draft is a bust, but every player you sign as an UDFA turns out to be a Pro Bowler? In the end, does it matter one lick how a player wound up on your team as long as they help you win? PTR It sort of kinda does matter when the team is to the point it can not afford to (or is unwilling to) give those UDFA's a lucrative contract because the 1st and second round dratees are sitting on the bench collecting their dough while the UDFA is playing every down, and three or four years later, the now experianced underpaid UDFA leaves for greener pastures. Case in point do you think Jason Peters would still be here if his initial contract was for Mike Williams dough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoobydum Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Russell, 1st round and getting fat on Purple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills in va Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This is an pointless argument. Let's assume every player you draft is a bust, but every player you sign as an UDFA turns out to be a Pro Bowler? In the end, does it matter one lick how a player wound up on your team as long as they help you win? PTR Except that you pay megamillions in signing bonuses to a player who doesn't see the field. Money you could have spent on free agents or resigning your best players. So in the end you are very wrong. It does matter that your 1st-2nd round picks are busts. It also means your scouting department sucks and are not earning their money. You cannot win hoping your 7th rounders all start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Except that you pay megamillions in signing bonuses to a player who doesn't see the field. Money you could have spent on free agents or resigning your best players. So in the end you are very wrong. It does matter that your 1st-2nd round picks are busts. It also means your scouting department sucks and are not earning their money. You cannot win hoping your 7th rounders all start. Exactly, and is why the Bills have not had a whiff of the playoffs in 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I understand it really doesn't matter if you're winning games, which Buffalo isn't, buthow many teams in the NFL have as many 1st and 2nd round picks not starting? I see: 1. Lynch 1st 2. Maybin 1st 3. McLuvin 1st 4. Hardy 2nd Are there others? Whitner - (selected 8th overall) if he does not start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Of the players listed, Lynch is actually a good player, and would start for most teams. Check out this comment from a personnel guy re: Lynch (PFW audibles): http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/07/2...rrolls-last-job • "It is a shame Steven Jackson is not on a better football team. When he is healthy, he is the best back in the league to me. He runs with more violence and strength than Adrian Peterson. You can clump Marshawn Lynch in there as well. When (Lynch) is right, he is a beast." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This is an pointless argument. Let's assume every player you draft is a bust, but every player you sign as an UDFA turns out to be a Pro Bowler? In the end, does it matter one lick how a player wound up on your team as long as they help you win? PTR money comes to mind....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerland Bills Fan Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 It amazes me that McCargo is still on the roster. It shows just how many chances a player gets when they're drafted in the first round. He seemed destine to be gone with the switch to the 3-4, yet he's still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 This is an pointless argument. Let's assume every player you draft is a bust, but every player you sign as an UDFA turns out to be a Pro Bowler? In the end, does it matter one lick how a player wound up on your team as long as they help you win? PTR It matters because the odds are so much better to find a Pro Bowler in the first two rounds vice the UDFA route. I am not sayinag that all round 1 and 2 picks should be pro bowlers but the majority should be starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 It amazes me that McCargo is still on the roster. It shows just how many chances a player gets when they're drafted in the first round. He seemed destine to be gone with the switch to the 3-4, yet he's still around. They tried (unsuccessfully) to trade him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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