Beastly Dareus Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 I like Frazer but I don't want his system in Buffalo and We need an offensive minded coach with a good defensive coordinator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 par for the course with this organization ...tried a defensive minded coach for the last forever and failed so ,another one???????????????? FAIL "GOT OFFENSE" ? not Buffalo..... I suppose he's a solid pick if they want someone to maintain the status quo. We can keep the cover 2 and bring in this year's version of Steve Fairchild or Turk Schonert to coach the offense. I wonder what the result of that'll be? This front office needs to realize something: yeah, the run D sucked a** this year, but it has primarily been the inept offense that's been killing them for a decade. They'd better be damn sure that this new head coach can turn their offense around, either himself or by hiring top assistants who can, or they'll be looking at yet another coaching change two or three years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I do believe that only one coach who is employed by a playoff team can be interviewed during the entire postseason...meaning this would virtually eliminate Russ Grimm, Sean McDermott and Ron Rivera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 They have the horses to run it, we don't. Sure do: those "small and quick" guys like Pat and Kevin Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I like Frazer but I don't want his system in Buffalo and We need an offensive minded coach with a good defensive coordinator What's wrong with a defensive-minded coach and a good offensive coordinator? Isn't that what the Pats* have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I do believe that only one coach who is employed by a playoff team can be interviewed during the entire postseason...meaning this would virtually eliminate Russ Grimm, Sean McDermott and Ron Rivera. One coach per team. They can interview the rest if they have time this week. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 My only problem with this hire, if we hire him, is that in spite of Brad Childress being there as an offensive guru, their QBs sucked until Favre fell into their laps. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastly Dareus Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 I do believe that only one coach who is employed by a playoff team can be interviewed during the entire postseason...meaning this would virtually eliminate Russ Grimm, Sean McDermott and Ron Rivera. It would eliminate Brain Schottenheimer as well. Hmm. we should research this to see if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 For the record, both Glazer and PFT were an hour behind TSW on this one. So there. This doesn't make any sense. Frazer is a Tampa 2 guy and Nix is on record as saying small and fast doesn't work here. If the Bills hire another flunky coordinator I'm done. I'm not putting myself through another 3 years of failure and misery till we "clean house" again. Do Jared Allen and the Williams Wall suggest small/fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 What's wrong with a defensive-minded coach and a good offensive coordinator? Isn't that what the Pats* have? Based on what I've seen over the last decade plus, I have even less confidence in their ability to hire competent coordinators than I do in their ability to hire a competent head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 This doesn't make any sense. Frazer is a Tampa 2 guy and Nix is on record as saying small and fast doesn't work here. If the Bills hire another flunky coordinator I'm done. I'm not putting myself through another 3 years of failure and misery till we "clean house" again. So what you're saying if we don't get Cowher then the team has to hire some retread that no other team wanted just to make you happy? Billick has a Super Bowl ring - but he can thank Marvin Lewis and Ray Lewis for that. His offenses sucked arse and it took a rookie HC in Harbaugh to finally get that team a passable offense. Other than that, who do you want? Joe Gibbs? Dick Vermeil? Frazier isn't a "flunky coordinator". He's the coordinator of the best defense in the NFL - Tampa 2 or not. The best teams in the league right now have "flunky coordinators" as head coaches. Just because Ralphie boy whiffed on his picks doesn't mean Buddy Nix will too. Some people need to get over the perception that we need a former head coach to be successful. Dick Jauron was a former head coach with oodles of experience. And he sucked arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 My only problem with this hire, if we hire him, is that in spite of Brad Childress being there as an offensive guru, their QBs sucked until Favre fell into their laps. C How does this affect Frazier. I'm pretty sure he has less than nothing to do with the Vikings QB's. Unless he has to tell Pat Williams " You spit Farve out right now" during practise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 For the record, both Glazer and PFT were an hour behind TSW on this one. So there. Do Jared Allen and the Williams Wall suggest small/fast? True, Pat Williams is many things, fast is not one of them. Perhaps you're right Lori, I just have visions (aka nightmares) of another Greg Williams experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Do Jared Allen and the Williams Wall suggest small/fast? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 If they also go on to interview Rivera that will be like the Triple Lindy, er Rooney...assuming Rivera, as a Puerto Rican- American, also is considered a minority candidate by the Rooney rule Gods. That would have to be some kind of record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Based on what I've seen over the last decade plus, I have even less confidence in their ability to hire competent coordinators than I do in their ability to hire a competent head coach. I agree but that wasn't the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 What's wrong with a defensive-minded coach and a good offensive coordinator? Isn't that what the Pats* have? Nothing at all. The last time our offense was good was 2002...Greg Williams. Then we tanked and hired offensive minded Mike Mularkey...Then we hired DJ and both sides of the ball sucked. I don't want a coach that's necessarily offensive or defensive. I want a coach that will surround himself with other great coaches on both sides of the ball and....WIN. Maybe this guy is it maybe not but I'm not going to dismiss anyone because of what side of the ball they're on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over40club Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I suppose he's a solid pick if they want someone to maintain the status quo. We can keep the cover 2 and bring in this year's version of Steve Fairchild or Turk Schonert to coach the offense. I wonder what the result of that'll be? This front office needs to realize something: yeah, the run D sucked a** this year, but it has primarily been the inept offense that's been killing them for a decade. They'd better be damn sure that this new head coach can turn their offense around, either himself or by hiring top assistants who can, or they'll be looking for yet another coaching change two or three years from now. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Yeah...that Minnesota defense sure does suck huh? Ha, people are idiots. Its the players not necessarily the scheme. Tampa 2 has been very seccussful in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gball77 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Horrible choice! He has a loaded D, both Williams, Jared Allen, Henderson, Winfield. Dick Jauron would do well with these players. That D is loaded with talent. We do not need another Head Coach that has no experience to go with our GM that has no experience. Terrible, I would be very disappointed if this comes to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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