zazie Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 3 sacks today. Going to be tough for Maybin to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 3 for the day, 10 for the year. Meanwhile, Maybin gets his usual 1 tackle and 1 assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 3 for the day, 10 for the year. Meanwhile, Maybin gets his usual 1 tackle and 1 assist. maybin has an awesome first step, i dont know what your talkin about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Too bad Orakpo hasn't helped Washington win any more games than the Bills. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 If Maybin makes even half of them up against Brady, it will all have been worth it. Not that that's, you know, likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Too bad Orakpo hasn't helped Washington win any more games than the Bills. PTR Beat me to it Promo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Too bad Orakpo hasn't helped Washington win any more games than the Bills. PTR To the contrary, unlike Maybin, Orakpo is doing his part. It's the other 21 starters that need to chip in, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 To the contrary, unlike Maybin, Orakpo is doing his part. It's the other 21 starters that need to chip in, too. Agreed. It would be like saying that Jairus Byrd isn't helping the Bills win games this year. Its not his fault that the rest of the team sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 BTW, Orakpo just notched his 4th sack today. And the Redskins are up 31-13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I'll be really pissed if Orakpo takes rookie of the year honors away from Byrd. Then again getting 9 INTs is a wee bit more impressive than getting 10 sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Maybin is more of a project though. The Bills dont need any stud players who record double digit sacks as rookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Beat me to it Promo. Don't hate. Orakpo is doing his part. Lets hope the Bills can add to the defense with solid draft choices next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 To the contrary, unlike Maybin, Orakpo is doing his part. It's the other 21 starters that need to chip in, too. Huh? I thought all you need is one player to win a football game? He's no Tedi Bruschi. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I wanted Orakpo over Maybin. But let's get two things straight: Maybin plays DE, Orakpo plays OLB. Maybin plays sparingly, Orakpo is a starter. Hardly a fair comparison. Maybin also missed Training Camp. DE is one of the hardest positions to learn in the NFL and Maybin is quite raw but has unlimited potential. He's very talented and once he gains size and experience, as well as adding a few pass rush moves to his repetoire, he'll be a force. Remember when everyone lambasted Casserly and the Texans for taking Williams over Bush and Young? Let's give Maybin a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Huh? I thought all you need is one player to win a football game? He's no Tedi Bruschi. PTR Give it time. I wanted Orakpo over Maybin. But let's get two things straight: Maybin plays DE, Orakpo plays OLB. Maybin plays sparingly, Orakpo is a starter. Hardly a fair comparison. Maybin also missed Training Camp. DE is one of the hardest positions to learn in the NFL and Maybin is quite raw but has unlimited potential. He's very talented and once he gains size and experience, as well as adding a few pass rush moves to his repetoire, he'll be a force. Remember when everyone lambasted Casserly and the Texans for taking Williams over Bush and Young? Let's give Maybin a chance. The sacks I saw from Orakpo today came from the DE position. And he starts and Maybin plays sparingly for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Ike Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Too bad Orakpo hasn't helped Washington win any more games than the Bills. PTR is there a point in there? He's a better player than Maybin, he'd make the team better thant it is now. just because the redskins offense is even worse than ours doesn't mean **** I guess you wouldn't want Calvin Johnson on the team either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_red Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 HE HAD 4 SACKS TODAY http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12439 11 on the year, lol. Maybin has 11 tackles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplusfool Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 HE HAD 4 SACKS TODAY http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12439 11 on the year, lol. Maybin has 11 tackles! But those were 11 chest pounding, dancing with the stars type tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiGeorge Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 But those were 11 chest pounding, dancing with the stars type tackles. can't stand how he dance's and cheers his sub par play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Give it time. The sacks I saw from Orakpo today came from the DE position. And he starts and Maybin plays sparingly for a reason. agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I wanted Orakpo over Maybin. But let's get two things straight: Maybin plays DE, Orakpo plays OLB. Maybin plays sparingly, Orakpo is a starter. Hardly a fair comparison. Maybin also missed Training Camp. DE is one of the hardest positions to learn in the NFL and Maybin is quite raw but has unlimited potential. He's very talented and once he gains size and experience, as well as adding a few pass rush moves to his repetoire, he'll be a force. Remember when everyone lambasted Casserly and the Texans for taking Williams over Bush and Young? Let's give Maybin a chance. Unlimited potential? What the hell have you seen that I haven't? The dude plays straight up and down, he makes pozz look like a ballerina! He's had more than enough time to catch up. Orakpo gets his sacks when his hand is on the ground. He plays OLB on 1st and 2nd and DE on 3rd similar to the way Peter Boulware played. Holy friggen excuses! Honestly, I cannot remember another rookie who was taken that high looking so completely lost. RALPH, THE FO HAS TO GO TOO!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Maybin is more of a project though. The Bills dont need any stud players who record double digit sacks as rookies. lol wut? who would not want a stud player who record double digit sacks as a rookie on their team? I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I hope I'm wrong as I don't want to give up on young players too quick but our draft would have looked pretyy good - except for the Maybin Pick. Orakpo or Oher would have looked good in Bills uniforms. Initially I like others fell in love with FSU Brown highlights that reminded me of Dwight Freeny and badly wanted to see him here and was pissed we passed him over for Byrd. But every once in a while this Bills team proves us wrong; lets hope it happens with Maybin. I just don't see him being a 4-3 DE in the NFL. While he can definitely add lower body strength, his frame looks maxed. Orakpo had an NFL build for a 4-3 DE with the ability to play OLB. Lets hope Maybin can improve or he is better utilized for as of right now I don't see Mario Williams out of Maybin as I just don't see the potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 can't stand how he dance's and cheers his sub par play... I LOVE IT! Kid's got spunk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Unlimited potential? What the hell have you seen that I haven't? The dude plays straight up and down, he makes pozz look like a ballerina! He's had more than enough time to catch up. Orakpo gets his sacks when his hand is on the ground. He plays OLB on 1st and 2nd and DE on 3rd similar to the way Peter Boulware played. Holy friggen excuses! Honestly, I cannot remember another rookie who was taken that high looking so completely lost. RALPH, THE FO HAS TO GO TOO!!!!!!! Yes, unlimited potential. He needed one more year of college seasoning, he played only two years of college ball, one year as a starter. He had 12 sacks at Penn State in '08. All American, All Big Ten. He's 6'4" with the frame to bulk up and add lbs. Everyone knew he was a project player who wouldn't have an immediate impact and would need time to develop. Like I said, I wanted Orakpo, who was a senior and more "NFL ready." But you'd be insane to give up on Maybin already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Yes, unlimited potential. He needed one more year of college seasoning, he played only two years of college ball, one year as a starter. He had 12 sacks at Penn State in '08. All American, All Big Ten. He's 6'4" with the frame to bulk up and add lbs. Everyone knew he was a project player who wouldn't have an immediate impact and would need time to develop. Like I said, I wanted Orakpo, who was a senior and more "NFL ready." But you'd be insane to give up on Maybin already. I have a bunch of buddies who need another year or two of college to get a bachelors but I wouldn't say that their potential is unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I have a bunch of buddies who need another year or two of college to get a bachelors but I wouldn't say that their potential is unlimited. Lets see who has a longer more productive career Maybin or Orapko. Instead of calling it a career before there rookie seasons are done. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemarty Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I wanted Orakpo over Maybin. But let's get two things straight: Maybin plays DE, Orakpo plays OLB. Maybin plays sparingly, Orakpo is a starter. Hardly a fair comparison. Maybin also missed Training Camp. DE is one of the hardest positions to learn in the NFL and Maybin is quite raw but has unlimited potential. He's very talented and once he gains size and experience, as well as adding a few pass rush moves to his repetoire, he'll be a force. Remember when everyone lambasted Casserly and the Texans for taking Williams over Bush and Young? Let's give Maybin a chance. I was not pleased with the Maybin selection and his season certainly pales in comparison to Orakpo. But I think the direct comparisons with Orakpo are a little unfair. Although, at this point, Orakpo may be the better NFL player, had Orakpo gone at 11 and Maybin dropped to 13, you would not see Orakpo getting 11 sacks on our line and would likely have seen Maybin grab at least 5-6 sacks (maybe more) if he was lining up next to Albert Haynesworth, Andre Carter and Cornelius Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Also, the resurgence of Schobel and the emergence of Kelsay this year have a thing or two to do with Maybin's limited opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JauronGone Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I'll be really pissed if Orakpo takes rookie of the year honors away from Byrd. Then again getting 9 INTs is a wee bit more impressive than getting 10 sacks. Just a qucik question for you guys: Has a rookie ever led the NFL in interceptions in a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Unlimited potential? What the hell have you seen that I haven't? The dude plays straight up and down, he makes pozz look like a ballerina! He's had more than enough time to catch up. Orakpo gets his sacks when his hand is on the ground. He plays OLB on 1st and 2nd and DE on 3rd similar to the way Peter Boulware played. Holy friggen excuses! Honestly, I cannot remember another rookie who was taken that high looking so completely lost. RALPH, THE FO HAS TO GO TOO!!!!!!! The worst part of it is that his struggles were quite predictable. DE is second only to QB in terms of the difficulty transitioning to the NFL and when you draft an underclassman, who almost invariably is even less prepared for that transition than a senior, you usually just compound those problems. At the moment, Maybin's 1st season is mirroring that of any number of 1st round DE washouts of recent years. Hoperfully Maybin is the exception and its certainly too early to just give up on him, but I'm not at all encouraged to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Just a qucik question for you guys: Has a rookie ever led the NFL in interceptions in a season? Yes - most recently, Orlando Thomas of the Vikings in 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JauronGone Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Yes - most recently, Orlando Thomas of the Vikings in 1995. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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