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For 7 years Zimmer helped the cowboys have consistantly one of the best defenses in the NFL (2000-2007). Zimmer survived 4 head coaching changes during this time. Helped the Bengals have the 13th ranked D last year even without the talent. Now Bengals D is ranked fourth (after Packers game). Bengals Rank 2nd in rushing yds allowed a game. Bengals Rank 1st in Pts allowed per game 15.6.

 

Zimmer is fairly young at 53. He has a beat the hell out of you type of personality. Very fiery coach who obviously knows how to get the best out of his players. He could easily be ours for 3 MIL a year, so he is realistic. Because no one believes royal ralphy is gonna spend 10 Mil a year.

 

I remember being impressed with his "get the f##K out of my way" personality he has. The bengals were the featured team on HBO Hard Knocks.

 

I just hope the Bengals keep winning or we get a solid GM. Because with the four-horseman running the show they would never be able to see that Zimmer has the talent and personality to Get Buffalo out of the Basement Once and For All.

 

Go ahead you Jauron Desciples let me have it!

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Zimmer wouldn't be bad, Bills have some strong talent on D (Byrd been doin amazing), and could use some good coaching to solidify it to balance out your offense. I believe the more important issue is your offensive playcalling though. With Owens, Evans, and Lynch/Jackson your offense should be explosive, but the playcalling does not utilize your weapons to their best advantage.

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For 7 years Zimmer helped the cowboys have consistantly one of the best defenses in the NFL (2000-2007). Zimmer survived 4 head coaching changes during this time. Helped the Bengals have the 13th ranked D last year even without the talent. Now Bengals D is ranked fourth (after Packers game). Bengals Rank 2nd in rushing yds allowed a game. Bengals Rank 1st in Pts allowed per game 15.6.

 

Zimmer is fairly young at 53. He has a beat the hell out of you type of personality. Very fiery coach who obviously knows how to get the best out of his players. He could easily be ours for 3 MIL a year, so he is realistic. Because no one believes royal ralphy is gonna spend 10 Mil a year.

 

I remember being impressed with his "get the f##K out of my way" personality he has. The bengals were the featured team on HBO Hard Knocks.

 

I just hope the Bengals keep winning or we get a solid GM. Because with the four-horseman running the show they would never be able to see that Zimmer has the talent and personality to Get Buffalo out of the Basement Once and For All.

 

Go ahead you Jauron Desciples let me have it!

 

 

One issue I have is that he isn't really an offensive guy. We have haven't had a good offense for a long time and the fact that we have only had one offensive coach for the last 13 years is part of the issue. I would like to go for an offensive guy like Russ Grimm BUT if they hired this guy I wouldn't call it a terrible hire philosophically.

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For 7 years Zimmer helped the cowboys have consistantly one of the best defenses in the NFL (2000-2007). Zimmer survived 4 head coaching changes during this time. Helped the Bengals have the 13th ranked D last year even without the talent. Now Bengals D is ranked fourth (after Packers game). Bengals Rank 2nd in rushing yds allowed a game. Bengals Rank 1st in Pts allowed per game 15.6.

 

Zimmer is fairly young at 53. He has a beat the hell out of you type of personality. Very fiery coach who obviously knows how to get the best out of his players. He could easily be ours for 3 MIL a year, so he is realistic. Because no one believes royal ralphy is gonna spend 10 Mil a year.

 

I remember being impressed with his "get the f##K out of my way" personality he has. The bengals were the featured team on HBO Hard Knocks.

 

I just hope the Bengals keep winning or we get a solid GM. Because with the four-horseman running the show they would never be able to see that Zimmer has the talent and personality to Get Buffalo out of the Basement Once and For All.

 

Go ahead you Jauron Desciples let me have it!

 

I'm of the belief that it's better at this point to get an offensive minded head coach and then just hire a good DC. The Bills have been totally inept on offense for almost all of the last 15 years. That has to change.

 

Their defense under Phillips/Cottrell and later Gray/LeBeau has been outstanding at times, and that speaks to the fact that it's easier to turn around a defense. Defense is great, but it's an offense and QB driven league. I don't think it's any coincidence that we've had so many well regarded defensive minds running the show and still sucked. This decade the only coach with a winning record was Mularkey, an offensive guy. No thanks to Zimmer, or Haslett or Dom Capers or any other defensive specialist as HC.

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I hear what everyone is saying about getting an offensive minded guy. But let's keep in mind it has been just as long since weve had a good defense.

 

Let's assume we have a competent GM since we hired Zimmer.

 

So we have a great mind on the defensive side of the football and a head coach who unlike the other candidates you are mentioning, hasslet ect. Zimmer Has proved he is a great motivator and always gets the best out of his team.

 

So now we can assume a great defensive minded, intelligent coach and a competent GM can hire a very good offensive coordinator. Maybe a Brian Billick.

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I hear what everyone is saying about getting an offensive minded guy. But let's keep in mind it has been just as long since weve had a good defense.

 

Let's assume we have a competent GM since we hired Zimmer.

 

So we have a great mind on the defensive side of the football and a head coach who unlike the other candidates you are mentioning, hasslet ect. Zimmer Has proved he is a great motivator and always gets the best out of his team.

 

So now we can assume a great defensive minded, intelligent coach and a competent GM can hire a very good offensive coordinator. Maybe a Brian Billick.

 

The Jerry Gray defenses were near the top of the league 5 years ago. Wade and Cottrell had completely separate dominant D's in the late 1990's. No, it's not even comparable the offense hasn't been ranked anywhere near that high since early in the SB era. The futility is actually starting to reach epic proportions. It just isn't as hard to build a good defense.

 

I don't want a guy who is coming in just on his defensive laurels. Now a guy like Schottenheimer or Dungy, who have proven they can coach a winner and aren't just another Jerry Gray wannabe head coach, I'd consider. But another defensive HC who is going to have to be graded on a curve while he figures out how to manage the QB position........no thanks.

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Zimmer wouldn't be bad, Bills have some strong talent on D (Byrd been doin amazing), and could use some good coaching to solidify it to balance out your offense. I believe the more important issue is your offensive playcalling though. With Owens, Evans, and Lynch/Jackson your offense should be explosive, but the playcalling does not utilize your weapons to their best advantage.

Play calling is irrelevant when your O-Line and QB are way below average.

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One issue I have is that he isn't really an offensive guy. We have haven't had a good offense for a long time and the fact that we have only had one offensive coach for the last 13 years is part of the issue. I would like to go for an offensive guy like Russ Grimm BUT if they hired this guy I wouldn't call it a terrible hire philosophically.

 

Agreed. I would much prefer that the Bills bring in an offensive-minded head coach and instead of Zimmer, I think I'd go after the Cowboys' offensive coordinator Jason Garrett instead. In any case, until the Bills turn their offense around, they aren't going to win.

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The Jerry Gray defenses were near the top of the league 5 years ago.

 

Thanks to being sandwiched by DC geniuses Greggo and Lebeau. Gray's performance as DC without those guys is pitiful.

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For 7 years Zimmer helped the cowboys have consistantly one of the best defenses in the NFL (2000-2007). Zimmer survived 4 head coaching changes during this time. Helped the Bengals have the 13th ranked D last year even without the talent. Now Bengals D is ranked fourth (after Packers game). Bengals Rank 2nd in rushing yds allowed a game. Bengals Rank 1st in Pts allowed per game 15.6.

 

Zimmer is fairly young at 53. He has a beat the hell out of you type of personality. Very fiery coach who obviously knows how to get the best out of his players. He could easily be ours for 3 MIL a year, so he is realistic. Because no one believes royal ralphy is gonna spend 10 Mil a year.

 

I remember being impressed with his "get the f##K out of my way" personality he has. The bengals were the featured team on HBO Hard Knocks.

 

I just hope the Bengals keep winning or we get a solid GM. Because with the four-horseman running the show they would never be able to see that Zimmer has the talent and personality to Get Buffalo out of the Basement Once and For All.

 

Go ahead you Jauron Desciples let me have it!

 

 

Thank you, BB. I was thinking about him not only since we started interviewing Shanny, but all the way back to being impressed by him while watching "Hard Knocks" on HBO.

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Thanks to being sandwiched by DC geniuses Greggo and Lebeau. Gray's performance as DC without those guys is pitiful.

 

Yeah, and he was considered as a possible HC candidate at the time, just like Fewell is(was?) by some now. Neither of them is more than a good DB coach, IMO, and Gray has settled in at his level in Washington. Nowadays, if you can't come up with a defense that consistently puts pressure on the QB without getting torched in the secondary, you just aren't a good DC. You are bottom half of the league and bottom half coaches get cycled out. It's near blasphemy that Fewell even be considered based on his LOUSY defenses.

 

You mention GW and LeBeau, Dick LeBeau was brought in because JG couldn't REALLY get it done. When you think about it, the Bills at that point actually had 3 current/former DC's on staff that, at least statistically, had guided defenses to top 2 rankings in the NFL. Where did that get them? Home for the playoffs. It's an offensive minded, quarterback driven league and the Bills need to recognize it with their next hiring.

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Speaking of Gray, his star has been on the wane for quite some time now.

 

Maybe Les Miles needs a new assistant defensive backs coach at LSU?

 

Chuck Knox was right about Buffalo being a coaching graveyard. Not only has no head coach for Buffalo won a SB before or after he coached here, to my knowledge, no coach that has even served any time for the Bills has ever become a HC that won a SB. Astonishing futility. You'd think that at some point an assistant would have passed thru if only briefly. Part of my reason for wanting a proven winner is to break this absurd cycle. Almost 60 years of pro football coaches in Buffalo and SQUAT.

 

Someone help me out here, who is the assistant from Buffalo who started in Buffalo and went on to do much better later on? I'd say Jerry Glanville, but he came to Buffalo as an assistant after having already been a DC in Atlanta in the 1970's. Pete Carroll was an assistant briefly. I guess he is the only branch on the tree. A guy who couldn't win in the NFL. I can't remember if he was on Marv's staff, but if so, he is the only branch on that tree and that's a reach. Remember, Ted Marchibroda was a HC before Marv ever was, so he wasn't part of that lineage.

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