John from Riverside Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I am sorry but this guy is fricken milking it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZC-Boston Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Come on this guy is a gamer, if he was healthy, he'd be out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 He sure has one cush gig here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 yeah, an 80% corner against either Holt(if he plays) or Bruce makes sense..... it's not an arm injury, it's a knee injury and I'm sure if the guy could go and make a difference he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I am wondering.... 1) what WAS the knee injury? Seems he is out a long time for something like a Meniscus tear (sp) if that is what it was. 2) why isn't he on IR if it is so bad? 3) Is this a way for him to draw some cash before retiring this offseason? hey don't rule it out. The guy is what 34? how many years has he played? he just got another 2-3 mill in his pocket. Is it time for him to retire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I am sorry but this guy is fricken milking it....... 123125[/snapback] How dare you make such a comment about the President of the NFLPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I am sorry but this guy is fricken milking it....... 123125[/snapback] Haha! No offense man, but to assume that this guy is ready to play and refuses play instead is crazy. You aren't really basing this on anything besides your desire to get him back out to help the team. I'm sure he loves watching the team lose and would rather just collect a check and sit on the bench with a completely healed leg. I hope you are just hoping he gets out there rather than actually think he is sitting out as long as possible just for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Haha! No offense man, but to assume that this guy is ready to play and refuses play instead is crazy. You aren't really basing this on anything besides your desire to get him back out to help the team. I'm sure he loves watching the team lose and would rather just collect a check and sit on the bench with a completely healed leg. I hope you are just hoping he gets out there rather than actually think he is sitting out as long as possible just for fun. 123146[/snapback] What is the knee injury? If the Bills would release this info instead of being all 'top secret' about it we would know the truth. Funny, he has surgery just a couple days after the injury. so it's bad enough to have immediate surgery, but not bad enough to put him on IR? They release everyone elses info....why not this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I am wondering.... 1) what WAS the knee injury? Seems he is out a long time for something like a Meniscus tear (sp) if that is what it was. 2) why isn't he on IR if it is so bad? 3) Is this a way for him to draw some cash before retiring this offseason? hey don't rule it out. The guy is what 34? how many years has he played? he just got another 2-3 mill in his pocket. Is it time for him to retire? 123140[/snapback] Gotta love the conspiracy theorists on this board. The NFL has an evil plot to keep the Bills down, Donahoe is simply setting this team up for a move out of the NFL, and now, Vincent is worried about a retirement plan?? I'm sure he doesn't have enough money to retire on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 He's 34, he's still in the league. That should say volumes about the guy's drive to compete in itself. If he had a broken hand and was sitting out I would call it a problem. Not sure of the extent of the problem, though. I heard Mularkey on the radio this AM saying that he is getting better but he's not 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Fnuuy, he has surgery just a couple days after the injury. so it's bad enough to have immediate surgery, but not bad enough to put him on IR? 123147[/snapback] IR means you can't play for the rest of the season doesn't it?? They didn't put him on IR because they thought he would be ready to play early, but he isn't. Can't it be just because a 30 something year old isn't going to heal as fast as a JP Losman? Do you think this is the only case of someone healing behind schedule? I'm sure you'd really appreciate it if someone implied that you were taking a few sick days off from work for no reason without actually knowing anything about your sickenss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I am sorry but this guy is fricken milking it....... 123125[/snapback] Is there any objective evidence of this whatsoever or is it merely the frustration we all feel that is prompting this? One can certainly construct a theory based on him looking out only for $ for him that could be a possible explanation for him milking it, but without any objective evidence or even credible indication to support this theory it probably says more about the thoretician than Vincent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 How stupid are some of you people? Troy Vincent isn't "miliking" anything. He is a gamer. If Troy Vincent could be out there playing he would be. It just amazes me sometimes at the limited mental capacity displayed here sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 If DR. ICE says he can play, then he can play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 Sorry folks....just a little frustrated with my team this morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Sorry folks....just a little frustrated with my team this morning... 123176[/snapback] Go take a dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Stop the madness. Vincent isnt some stoner college kid seeing how many classes he can get away with skipping. He's the president of the NFLPA. He's hurt. He'll play when ready. The season's over. Who cares if he plays? If we were 6-3 or 5-4 and NEEDED a win? Sure. Make him play at 70%. But the rest of the games are meaningless. let him get healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Who cares if he plays? 123190[/snapback] I do. I've got a Superbowl prediction riding on him playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 A friend of mine who is a die hard Eagles fan said him and a lot of other Eagles fans used to accuse TV of the same thing: Taking too long to come back from injury. This is nothing new if you go ask Eagles fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Come on. Troy Vincent is Troy Vincent. Expecting Troy Vincent to play a full season without missing games is like expecting a Buffalo winter without snow. Anyone remember the last time he played a full season? The 2000 season. This is Vincent's 13th season in the league. In 13 years as a player he's only played a full season 4 times. 2000 was an aberation because the only other 3 seasons he did it was back to back to back in 95,96,97. He's also a union activist, so he's gonna take care of number 1 before he takes care of anything else. This is just another in a long line Teflon Tom gaffes. The Teflon man knows how to throw stevestojan in our faces and convince us that they're roses. He is the king of horse stevestojan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 A friend of mine who is a die hard Eagles fan said him and a lot of other Eagles fans used to accuse TV of the same thing: Taking too long to come back from injury. This is nothing new if you go ask Eagles fans. ---------- just curious how many of those Eagles fans are team doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 It is kind of strange if you do a search there isn't much information on exactly what the injury was. There's no shortage of reports that he injured his knee and had arthoscopic surgery, but curiously little to no information on the injury itself. A large number of them simply say "Bills coach Mike Mularkey refused to reveal the extent of the injury". I found this one on football.com, but who knows how accurate it is: CB Troy Vincent – Bills Out: Vincent is expected to miss at least two weeks after having arthroscopic surgery to repair torn cartilage in his right knee. football.com I absolutely do not question his desire or willingness to play - and believe if the knee was strong/healthy enough he would be in there. My concern more is that either the injury was worse than they thought or maybe they even botched the diagnosis or the surgery and possibly did not repair it properly/completely - and as a result it just is not healing like it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 A friend of mine who is a die hard Eagles fan said him and a lot of other Eagles fans used to accuse TV of the same thing: Taking too long to come back from injury. This is nothing new if you go ask Eagles fans. ---------- just curious how many of those Eagles fans are team doctors. 123197[/snapback] He has a reputation for this, and that is the point. Im not sure if its a concidience. I hate to question someone coming back from injuries, they are human, Im just a fan, but it does make you wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 If he has a reputation of being injured an having a bum leg then it's up to management not to sign him in the offseason or the leadership on this team calling him out. I saw in in Atlanta when Chipper called out JD early in the season saying that even if he plays at 80% they need him in the lineup. JD went on to play in more games than he ever has the remainder of the year....and is probably going to get paid handsomely from some other team b/c of it. Gotta have leadership.......which the Bills lack. That being said.....I believe Troy isn't milking it b/c of the location of the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 A friend of mine who is a die hard Eagles fan said him and a lot of other Eagles fans used to accuse TV of the same thing: Taking too long to come back from injury. This is nothing new if you go ask Eagles fans. 123195[/snapback] They're world renown for their fairness and objectivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I'm making the assumption that Vincent is a guy with a great attitude, and that he honestly just can't play. Bills Daily reports that the knee just is not getting any better. Makes me wonder if his career is done. He's 34 now, I just can't see the Bills wanting to keep damaged goods haning around next year especially since he'll be 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 He's going to be a safety when he comes back so what's the big deal? The Bills need a corner that can cover now more than safeties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 He's going to be a safety when he comes back so what's the big deal? The Bills need a corner that can cover now more than safeties 123372[/snapback] That hasn't been confirmed yet. And safety coverage does matter......ie: Coy Wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 That hasn't been confirmed yet. And safety coverage does matter......ie: Coy Wire. 123378[/snapback] let's not forget Izell Reese here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 There was similar wonderment here in Cincy, regarding WR Peter Warrick's leg injury - shinbone, I believe. He played one game, sat out, played a bit, and is now out for the season (the team's 13th player to go on IR). B'gals HC Lewis, in response to questions a week or so before he was declared out, said that people's medical conditions and records, as a matter of law, cannot be revealed. Perhaps this is the case with the Bills appearent silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 yeah, an 80% corner against either Holt(if he plays) or Bruce makes sense..... it's not an arm injury, it's a knee injury and I'm sure if the guy could go and make a difference he would. 123138[/snapback] ill take vincent 80% over mcgee 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 3) Is this a way for him to draw some cash before retiring this offseason? hey don't rule it out. The guy is what 34? how many years has he played? he just got another 2-3 mill in his pocket. Is it time for him to retire? 123140[/snapback] Before the season, TV said that he expects to be a billionaire before 40 with all of his various investments. If you expect to be a billionaire in 5-10 years, I don't think the extra 1-2M he's making from the Bills is that big a deal to him. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 If DR. ICE says he can play, then he can play! 123172[/snapback] If they would say what the injury is then yeah I could most likely tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I love the asskissing and excuses made for PRO Athletes. LMAO But hey, Let's give the players rep to the NFLPA the benifit of the doubt. The guy that really has ZERO loyalty to the Buffalo Bills since he only played a game or two and signed this offseason. Yeah I am sure he is really hurt bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risin Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I am sorry but this guy is fricken milking it....... 123125[/snapback] The Fox crew said as much last season while he was out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I love the asskissing and excuses made for PRO Athletes. LMAO But hey, Let's give the players rep to the NFLPA the benifit of the doubt. The guy that really has ZERO loyalty to the Buffalo Bills since he only played a game or two and signed this offseason. Yeah I am sure he is really hurt bad.... 123430[/snapback] Yeah, not everyone can have your high standards of integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Yeah, not everyone can have your high standards of integrity. 123443[/snapback] You're right darin. I will now just sit here like the rest of you and believe everything these multimillionare spoiled brats are telling us. Oh and make sure no more complaints because TD is doing the right thing...me must believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 A friend of mine who is a die hard Eagles fan said him and a lot of other Eagles fans used to accuse TV of the same thing: Taking too long to come back from injury. This is nothing new if you go ask Eagles fans. ---------- just curious how many of those Eagles fans are team doctors. 123197[/snapback] Not saying it's the case one way or another, but I have two very good friends, who are lifelong Eagles Fans, who said the exact same thing to me last week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 You're right darin. I will now just sit here like the rest of you and believe everything these multimillionare spoiled brats are telling us. Oh and make sure no more complaints because TD is doing the right thing...me must believe him. 123447[/snapback] As opposed to an unpaid know it all Monday morning quarterback? I know, I know, your injury was worse than Willis McGahee's and throwing a telephone pole is tougher than lining up 16 Sundays a year. Troy Vincent is now a spoiled brat? Nothing like pissing on one of the professional sports' good guys because of your own shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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