Big Turk

Agree...it's easy to break down stuff on Twitter...he has never been a coach...how did that work out for Jeff Saturday and the Colts?

The cheese stands alone! The cheese stands alone! Hi-ho the derry-o! The cheese stands alone!

take over as QB Coach

Looks like maybe he might have a new perspective on things and maybe might be able to install a few new plays a week to breathe some life into the offense.

Daboll's offense wasn't much different over the last half of his final year as it is now, the D was better at bailing them out. They kinda sucked, then got hot in the playoffs that made everyone forget that they sucked the last 8 games of the year and had that 9-6 loss in Jacksonville to boot. Dorsey has the same issues over the 2nd half of the year last year and again this year but starting earlier. Perhaps this Daboll based offense doesn't have enough "answers" built into it when teams start figuring out what to take away after the first part of the year. IMO, McD bit off more than he could chew with trying to be DC and HC, especially since he has no defacto DC to help with preparation throughout the week with him just being a playcaller. Even Reid always has an OC to do most of the heavy lifting during the week and he calls plays on Sunday. That might be doable. McD trying to do ALL of that on his own during the week is not. We see what happens...this reminds me of what happens in well run stores with a GM that ends up having to do the assistant's job for a month or two or three when they are out or doesn't have one, etc...things start snowballing where there isn't enough time in the day to do everything and little things start being overlooked, then as those start piling up, more and more things start being overlooked and before you know it, the store ends up in disarray. The lesson is: Being an NFL head coach is a freaking hard enough job as it is...being a playcaller is more difficult but manageable...trying to be the DC and HC is impossible. It won't work. This is what you get. Lack of attention to details, stuff pawned off on other people that he needs to be responsible for, having his head down working so much that he loses sight of the bigger picture of what is going on with the team at large and where he needs to be to put smaller fires out before they become bigger fires and then smoldering infernos. This season could have been prevented by McD remaining as just the HC. That is what pisses me off the most right now. Him being DC seemed great in theory but it clearly doesn't work in practice.

Did it? Murray rumbled for big gains while he was out. Murray also averaged 7.6 YPC last night too...I don't agree with that.

Probably because those Ryan teams actually had a lot of talent that was horribly mismanaged and could only beat the mediocre and bad teams with Taylor.

That could set up the "We are not Worthy" calls and the fans reactions to TDs

Maybe that's an advantage since they don't know what to expect tendency wise.

McCaffery was probably hurt like always for the year after a few games...only place he has been healthy has been SF

Are we surprised? Isn't this par for the course in Florida? Almost every time you read a news story with some crazy weird stuff happening I automatically think it's gotta be in Florida and virtually always am right 😂

The man had Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold as his QBs...all he should have been doing is running 😂

Run the damn ball more when it is working and suck those LB's up for play action shots.

Huh? Phillip Rivers was animated and intense in interviews and his play in a WWE over the top kind of way...you sure you got the right dude? Think you might mean someone else.

Depends. On a lot of things. If he wants to be DC again. Firm no.

And the difference between a missed throw by 2 inches or a tipped pass or an official's call at the right time(or several right times in some games) can decide things that just as easily could have went the other way. Funny that Mahomes was the one who ended the game last year in a close game with an INT against the Bills who apparently "Suck" in close games(but actually don't with a 13-14 record since 2020) then right?

I went back and hand counted Bills games since 2020 on PFR's site and the Bills have a 13-14 record in 1 score games since 2020. So basically, they were .500 before last night's game. Certainly not as "woeful" as the OP is trying to make out and pointing almost directly towards there being no correlation from one year to the next in terms of records in 1 score games. If you look at the Bills "expected" win totals over the last 4 seasons, they pretty much alternate. In 2020, the Bills went 13-3 but expected wins were 10.6. In 2021, the Bills went 11-6 but expected wins were 13.1. In 2022 the Bills went 13-3 but expected wins were 12.0. This year the Bills are 5-5 but expected wins are 7. We are seeing how randomness in close games work first hand to a large degree. Not sure what is up with statmuse, that site is usually pretty good with those type of things.

Something to chew on... https://jaydpauley.medium.com/is-winning-close-games-in-the-nfl-luck-6118d3d8a701 "To find out if close game records are random, I plotted teams’ records in games decided by 3 or fewer points (or OT) in a year (horizontal axis) and then their records in close games the next year (vertical axis) and this is what it looks like: There is no correlation from one year to the next, suggesting almost complete randomness in close games. Just for illustration purposes, the fake data below shows what a strong correlation might look like." Because statistically speaking close game records over any given length of time are almost completely random and fluctuate heavily from one year to the next with a lot of "regression to the mean" of teams that won tons of close games one year and then lose a lot of them the following year(ie, Minnesota Vikings this year).

The bigger issue - Why were they even in that position in the first place? Because Diggs(of all people) dropped an easy catch on 2nd down which would have made Kincaid's catch on 3rd down an easy 1st down and kept them out of having to go for it on 4th down to begin with. Cascading issues are the theme with this team.

Has it been mostly broken since the mid point of the 2021 season? That's when Daboll's offense started having issues far more frequently as well and it seems the first month and a half with Dorsey is mostly fine until teams get settled in and get more game tape and start going back to what gives the Bills offense issues and the same problems crop up again...3 years straight now. It cannot be a coincidence. The D was there to help them out more often than not in those other 2 years...this year not so much.

I still think it is mostly a BS stat. So the Bills should get punished because they pounded teams down instead of "playing with their food" like KC does so often? Realistically there is no reason KC should be involved in THAT many close games based on their offense. Would it make you feel better if the Bills had decided to let more teams hang around instead of making it a 30 point lead by the 3rd quarter?

Nice to cherry pick the last 2.5 years instead of overall since McD has been here. They are 26-40 since 2017 when McD got here, which actually makes them Top 10 in terms of winning percentage in the NFL in these games. Know how many teams have a winning record over that time? 2. Kansas City is 37-26 and Pittsburgh is 48-39-2. ALL other teams have losing records in games decided by 7 points or less. OK, OK...but let's only talk about since the Bills were REALLY good. Well, convenient you are leaving out 2020 when they had many such wins. In fact when looked at it since 2020, the Bills are 13-17 in these games, which is 5th Best in the NFL. And again, only 3 teams have winning records over that timeframe in these type of games. KC, Pittsburgh and Minnesota. And to original point, the Bills are actually 8-14 not 7-14 in those games if you are cherry picking the last 2.5 years. The point? Not many teams have winning records over ANY stretch of time when looking at "close" games.

Part of this is because they were normally bashing teams heads in. Would it make you feel better if they allowed teams to get within a score late in the game instead of winning many of them by 10+ points? 20+ points?

The #1 thing that will stop the cascade and reverse it would be to have McD give up DC duties and go back to overall management of the team only. It's no coincidence all of this stuff is snowballing as he continues to try to do the Travis Kelce "Two things at once!" and it's not going well at all. Name a coach on the defense DC for the season and make it an audition for the job next year. All of these detail oriented/focus/things slipping thru the cracks are a direct result of lack of oversight on things that continues to degrade little by little as he continues to not do it as effectively as he once did. This all started in pre-season and maybe training camp and has snowballed thru the pre-season and season. Only way to reverse it is for him to go back to team focus and not trying to do 2 things. Even Reid always has an OC that does most of the heavy lifting during the week in terms of game prep, etc. McD trying to do all of this on his own is simply too much and leading to everything else crumbling around the team.

I mean sure, it's the HC fault overall since it's his team, but his ST coach let him down big time in that moment.