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Very nice...

Agreed...

I think that's pretty easy dots to connect...

And furthermore there's good RB's...then there is Shady's level which is most definitely a notch or two higher that just good...

Exactly true... I've never been one to over-value RB's...But even still...IMHO that trade was an absolute no-brainer...And I think it proved itself out on the field last year...At least while Shady was healthy it did...

I live in NC and I was admittedly pulling for the Panthers...So I'm absolutely biased... That being said... I thought the game sucked overall...But mostly because what the Panthers have done all year, they failed do in that game...And that was basically getting contributions from 1-53...Dropped passes (one leading to a devastating TO), dropped INT's, penalties, fumbles, and whatever the heck that was on the punt return...I just felt like the Panthers did not rise to the occasion of the game, and it made for a less than exciting overall product...I also felt the early no-catch call was wrong (albeit very close), and two plays later the Broncos got what turned out to be the biggest play of the game...Plus the no-call PI right before the Panthers 2nd half FG was a joke IMHO... The Broncos won with basically no offense...Their Defense was lights-out no question...They deserve a ton of credit...But the Panthers team I watched all year did not show up in this game whatsoever...And I realize the story line will always be that the Bronco's Defense caused that...And they did to an extent...But the Panthers team I knew caught those passes and those INT's all season...And should have cruised to victory in that game... So...Anyway...Congrats to the Broncos...I was definitely not a fan of the game overall though...I though it was a snoozer...

Shocker... Honestly...I'm surprised more people did not think this was a possibility after reading through the first few leaks...

Thank you...

What exactly was Sully trying to prove there? What a complete douchebag...

I don't think he'll be there...So it's probably not even worth discussing...But if he is there at #19 I don't think there's any question the Bills take Wentz...I think that's about as safe a bet as you're going to get in this Draft...

I've heard 3rd-4th Round...

Honestly Jaws should know better... The first SB the Bills were the better team...The Giants had to play the perfect game to beat them and still should have lost if Norwood can hit a 47 yarder...The 2nd was just the Skins year...They were a machine...The 3rd and 4th were against one of the greatest NFL teams ever assembled...Those Cowboys teams were basically All Star rosters on both sides of the ball... The Bills SB teams were better than a few SB winners, and just about every SB losing team...So...Shut up Jaws...

Cam is greatly misunderstood by some...He's a bit of a goofball at times...But there is a humility to him most never see...He loves to have fun...But that kid is a major grinder...He's sharp and he does not try to substitute anything for hard work...There's a reason he goes to people like MJ for advice...He wants to be the best ever...Though all you really hear him talk about is team oriented goals...I've followed his career from day #1 because I lived in Charlotte for 20 years, and I'm on the coast in NC now...He just keeps getting better and better...And there is no secret as to why...He works at it...He'll be ready for this game... He's not crazy...He's driven...But he has a lot of little kid left in his personality, that's all...

I think Wentz is heading to the top 10...It's inevitable if his workouts are good... I have barely looked into the Draft this year, but I saw Wentz available in my Mock at #19 and I took him...I ended up without a LB...But I don't care... 19: R1P19 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE 49: R2P18 SS JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON 80: R3P17 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA 114: R4P19 DT NILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE FLORIDA STATE 144: R5P17 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA 174: R6P17 DE MATT JUDON GRAND VALLEY STATE

I just think the Panthers D is going to make Peyton's day miserable...The Broncos D will do better vs the Panther Offense...But the Panthers still do enough on Offense to win... My guess is something like Panthers 27 - Broncos 17

A part of me wants to see Payton go out on a high note... The other part of me lives in NC, watched every Panthers game this year, and realizes without a doubt the Panthers are for real and on a serious mission... I honestly don't give the Broncos much of a chance...Their Defense may keep it closer than the Hawks or Cards could...But in the end I see Carolina winning by at least a TD...

Apparently... We just can't seem to escape the doom...

Well..There you go with the whole facts and reality thing again... Buzzkiller...

That was funny!!!

I really disliked the guy a lot...Like I said almost from the get go...Though I do tend to stay out of the fray a bit more these days...My feeling on Marrone was always that he was a run first coach...but we could not run with any consistency...And an ex O-lineman and O-line coach that could not develop O-linemen...Plus he hired a College kid to run his Offense...To me it just seemed like a trainwreck almost from day one...

I have to admit...It's a bit embarrassing...But I hated the guy from the minute he cut Da'Rick Rogers... In retrospect it brought me to the right conclusion...Only for the wrong reason...

Was it now? Because I can remember plenty...I mean plenty of folks around here who did not like the guy...Myself included... How was it the general narrative of the message board? Or did you mean to say One Bills Drive?

If the Panthers play their game for 60 minutes they can beat anyone...They have the personnel on Defense and they have Cam... I'm not saying the Panthers will beat the Pats...I am saying they can...

I live in NC...I'm glad the nation is getting a chance to see this team...If you watch them every week you understand they are absolutely for real... Cam gets a ton of attention, and rightfully so...But they get contribution from 1-53 almost every week...They really are the definition of a team...And I think their Coaching staff is seriously underrated...

It seems to me that if we can all figure out Marrone's faults they have to be common knowledge in NFL circles...His agent does a good job keeping his name out there...Team are likely doing their due diligence...But in the end he ends up being pretty much exactly what they've heard he is...