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I disagree. Trubisky is a joke.

I am tired of the entire off season. It goes on forever. Feels like its been two years since we last played a game. Kincaid has been mediocre at best since coming in the league. He has not dominated one single game he has played in, in two years. And for a 1st round draft pick that is disappointing. But I am not ready to say he is a bust. But everyone has their own opinion on every player for the most part. There are only very few who everyone think are phenomenal. And Kincaid aint one of them. I just want to see him be a difference maker every week. Scott Chandler was not a great TE. But he made a lot of big catches, especially TD's for the Bills. Same with Pete Metzellars and Keith McKeller. I would not say they were great players. But they were difference makers for the team in their eras. Kincaid needs to stop being invisible more than he is a difference maker.

The guy was trash at Michigan. I swear he never punted for over 40 yards on any kick. (I am an alum and watch all their games) I was shocked when he was drafted by the Bengals. And just as perplexed when he was signed by the Bills. When I was in school there in the Mid 80's we had a punter by the name of Monty Robbins. Guy was great. I wonder if he was Brad Robbins father. LOL But seriously Brad Robbins has no leg. You want a kicker with a strong leg, get a Michigan kicker. We have had a lot of good ones over the years. Our kicker last year, who fortunately is coming back, last name Zvada is tremendous. As far as punters go, we haven't had a real good one probably since Brad's namesake Monty who punted in mid 80's in the Harbaugh era. Go Blue. And Go Bills!!

Trubisky had a couple good games in 2018. He is terrible and would have trouble starting on a lot of top 25 college teams at this point. He can’t throw an accurate pass more than 10 yards down the field. The Bills should have drafted Joe Milton a couple years ago. The guy at least has some talent. I agree Mike White is nothing special either. The Bills should have kept Anthony Brown last season. Has more talent than any of the backups. I guess McDermott likes to keep the QB room very snowy if you catch my drift.

Why do you like what we have better? Knox has minimal athleticism. And Kincaid has been a pretty big disappointment so far. Let’s hope he shows a whole lot more this season. I think all things being equal Fant has more talent than Knox. But the Bills have always loved the low ceiling Knox and gave him much too big of a contract extension. Not sure why when his upside has never been anything special. But he can block and make the occasional big play like the catch he had at Detroit.

Who says Shakir is overrated ? The Bills didn’t use him correctly for much of last year throwing the behind the line of scrimmage screen pass to him continuously. Garrett Wilson is good. Never said he wasn’t. Just don’t think he is as special as you do. And he is a pouter/complainer. Watch what happens when Fields is afraid to throw the ball and looks like a deer in headlights, as he has for much of his career. Wilson will lose his mind. Lol

That's my opinion Kirby. I don't find him to be elite. Those kinds of terms are thrown around way too much in today's game. The Bills have lacked in gathering talent at the WR position. And that's on Beane. However, I just do not see a lot of difference from Wilson to Shakir. The TD Shakir scored against the Steelers in the playoffs two years ago is as good as it gets running after the catch at the NFL level. So Wilson is #10 big deal. Once you are below the top 5 in anything it really doesn't matter. Do you know golf? Scheffler and Rory are pretty much top 2. With DeChambeau and Scheuffle not too far back on a given week. But once you are down to 10-30 its throwing names in a hat my friend.

Ok Kirby. I think Shakir is a baller. I am not downplaying Wilson in the slightest. I think he is a good receiver. But am I afraid of him when we play the Jets? Absolutely not. Good for you that you love his game. He looks like a petulant child on the sidelines. Yes Tyreek Hill has been dominant. DeVonta Smith is a good receiver. Can he be physically bullied around on the field? Yes he can. I don't care what era we are talking about. You need to play physical defense to be a good football team. And that includes roughing up receivers. Now you can't give the head shot by the safety coming across the field any longer. That just gets you personal fouls and fines. (The Brian Dawkins special.) I certainly understand that. But you still need to not let guys roam free all over the field.

There O line looked like trash last year. And has pretty much been that way since Kevin Mawae retired. Is Tyron Smith still playing for them? I think he got stuck in his stance in week 9 last year, and hasn't moved since.

Screw the players? Have you seen some of the contracts the owners are handing out to guys who are big time? And some not so much big time? Football is a team game. It is not so much about individual players except a select few QB's, a few star WR's and a few special talents on Defense. The rest of the players are pretty much interchangeable. There is a salary cap which levels the playing field, and makes you fit the best 53 players you can find in a finite pool of money. How is that screwing the players? Shemar Stewart had 1 1/2 sacks last year at Texas A & M. That is laughable. He should feel blessed that the Bengals even drafted him in the 1st round. Sign your contract, and prove to them that you are a bad ass that belongs on an NFL field. In the meantime he still may need to prove that he belongs on an SEC field with the ***** numbers he put up last year.

I am saying he looks as fragile as a pixie stick. And I think he is a good, but not spectacular player. Shakir is way more twitchy. Just probably not as fast in straight line speed.

The problem is that DB's are not allowed to punish WR's any longer. One big hit on this guy going across the middle, and he is not getting up anytime soon. I can just vision if Steve Atwater would have hit him. His career might have ended. I think Benford and Hairston will shut him down.

When we drafted Kincaid, I was ecstatic. I watched him play a bunch at Utah his final season, and he was a beast. Then he comes to the Bills and is catching 5 yard outs. Completely different then what he was doing at Utah, which was running seam patterns up the field. Granted he was playing against the weak PAC 12 defenses a few years ago. But man I have really been surprised at how irrelevant he has been on the Bills since he got here. He really has not been able to beat out a very mediocre TE in Dawson Knox, who has marginal receiving skills. Not sure what has happened there. Anyone want to chime in, as to where the disconnect has been with Kincaid in our offense so far? (I know he was injured in the second half of last year. But he has not dominated one game since becoming a Bill.)

That is a pretty liberal use of the word Superstar if you ask me. In today's NFL the way they throw the ball around on a lot of teams (we aren't really one of those teams) getting 1000 yards receiving in 17 games is nothing tremendous. And even if you have scrubs at QB, if you throw 40-50 x's per game, any NFL QB, (even Spencer Ratler types) can throw for 300 yards fairly often. Wilson is a nice WR. But he drops a lot of passes. And is moody as can be. Seems to be pouting on the sidelines every game.

Taron is too small to play such a physical brand of football. He is always beating the hell out of himself. If he can make it to week 5 without being concussed or suffering some type of soft tissue injury, I will be impressed. Can Hancock play slot corner? And what about Ingram? I know people talk about Cam Lewis. And he plays all out. But the guy is just not overly athletic.

You obviously know the Bay area well. I had never been to the San Jose/Santa Clara area before going out last month to see Metallica. Very nice there. The San Jose airport was literally maybe 7-8 minutes to Levi Stadium and the Santa Clara Hilton where we were staying, which is right next to the stadium. Its a long ways from Santa Clara to downtown San Francisco though. The 49ers don't seem to really be San Fran's team as much as the regions team. But the stadium sure is nice though. Thanks for that tidbit. I assume you live out there to know all the details. Santa Clara is nice. Very clean and modern. San Jose is nice in areas too. Have an amazing indoor mall there called Westfield. Very impressive. And we went to a Casino called Casino Matrix in San Jose. Not overly fancy. But the place was packed on a Thursday night. San Fran is nice down by the water. But there are some real rough areas with some serious skank people downtown.

I just looked his numbers up. He played 8 years with the Bills. 1997-2004. Only played 1 game his rookie season. But from 98-04 he was really good. He just got better as his career went along. It was too bad that we let him go as a free agent. He was good for several years with the Vikings also. Played 14 years total in the NFL from 1997-2010. That is a hell of a career..

Its certainly nicer than what used to be called the Gator Bowl where the Jaguars play what supposedly is called football. I went to the Bills-Jags playoff game there after the 2017 season. That place is an absolute dump. But then again so is the team. And the owner would rather they play full time in London anyways. Anyone know if they have renovated it in the past 8 years? I was also at Gillette Stadium to see Metallica last summer. Pretty nice facility. Nothing spectacular. But a solid venue for the time it was built. And was at Levi Stadium to see Metallica 3 weeks ago in Santa Clara. That is a beautiful facility. Great sight lines. And the area around the stadium is nice. Interestingly the stadium is right next to Great America amusement park. They pretty much share parking lots.

Thats absurd. We had a lot of good players back then, just not a big time QB. Moulds and Peerless and Josh Reed were all good receivers. And Scott Chandler at TE was a beast in the red zone. McCoy Fred Jackson Marshawn Willis McGahee Travis Henry CJ Spiller, those are all very good RB's. The O line certainly wasn't as good as what we have now. Although Levitre and Wood were good together for a while. The defense had London and Spikes at LB. Fat Pat at DT with Dareus. And some tremendous guys in the secondary, including one of my all time favorite Bills #24 Terrance McGhee. Just need some good QB play. I thought Tyrod pretty much sucked more often then not. (I thought his best football was actually at Va Tech) Give me some real good Fitzie and I think its closer to 10-7 to 9-8 current Bills team. But I think most if not all the games would be competitive. Add in Pat Williams and Jerry Hughes in the D line rotation. And some Poz as a 4th LB, and you have an excellent front 7.

Not in the slightest. But that’s a real odd response bro.

I certainly would not call Hailee gorgeous. I think attractive is more accurate. But that’s just one man’s opinion. As for Mahomes, who cares what kind of shape he is in. If his arm legs and brain still work, he will always be good. I remember when MLB players were smoking cigarettes in the dugout. And NFL players were smoking in the locker room. World is much too sterile today.

Who cares about analytics. Sports were great before any of that nonsense ever came to be. As a fan, we all watch the games and can see who is good who is great who sucks and who is mediocre. The eye test shows that the Bills defense as awhile was pretty weak last year. Just watch the Rams Lions reg season games and the Chiefs playoff game. Our defense was not physical and left huge gaps of open space all over the field. The pass rush was marginal at best. My point is that Rousseau doesn’t look special most games. He certainly doesn’t suck. But he definitely does not dominate week in and week out. Or even play after play on most defensive series i hope he gets to that level in year 5. But we shall see.

I agree about their QB play. It has not been much since Big Ben hurt his rt arm (in maybe 2019 or 2020, and then retired shortly thereafter) I thought Kenny Pickett would be better coming out of University of Pittsburgh. But the Steelers gave him all of 2 seasons behind a garbage O line, with a head coach who knows nothing about developing QB's, and their OC a couple years ago (Matt Canada-I believe) was lousy too. The win that Pickett led the Steelers to late, in his first year against the Raiders on Christmas Eve I believe (or close to then) when it was freezing out was a great drive. Maybe he will put it all together in Cleveland. Time will tell. Not a big fan of the Steelers way. Spend way too much on defense, and it gets them....mediocrity in this era. Think Tomlin lives off his reputation when football was played a lot differently. And he could do that with Big Ben as his QB. Kind of Like McDermott when you think about it. Josh Allen is a real big reason (not the only) that he is still coaching the Bills.

Are they going to overpay to extend overrated and often injured TJ Watt too, so he can continue to get meaningless sacks and jump around the field so he can pretent that he is actually doing something to help win games? No player in the league gets more stats that mean less to their team's outcome then this guy. I don't think he has ever set the edge on a run play to his side of the field. I think even Chris Kelsay was better at setting the edge.. There's a name we don't hear too much of on this message board. LOL

Wow, we must be deep in the off season with all this talk about McDermott. He is a good, but not great coach. The team plays hard and is almost always prepared. He and Beane have created a very solid culture. But he very rarely is going to out scheme and out coach another real good coach. (i e Andy Reid or Sean McVay level guys) When we beat the good teams, its because we are prepared to play. (thats on McDermott) And our players play well. And our better on that particular day or night. Its not usually game day coaching where you say, dam we really outcoached them today. Maybe if the guy had some charisma and personality where people got a kick out of him besides him being our head coach, people would not be so hard on him. Guys like Lou Saban and Marv Levy. Hank Stam, Jim Mora, even Jim Mora, Jr types.