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Yeah, that seems about right. I'd be happy for the Bills to bring him back for about that rate.

Yeah, these are both good points. The way I see it is this. A lot of OCs in recent times have altered schemes and tailor made the to hide their young QB's faults and accentuate their strengths. This enables the QB to experience success earlier than they normally would. I think this is fan's biggest problem with Daboll, he hasn't done this with Josh. I might be the only one, but I prefer it the way Daboll has done it, at least for this team. We've seen too many times a young QB comes in and the OC protects him and he's pretty good the first few years and then bam, he hits a wall and never develops much further. Particularly with running QBs. Daboll hasn't simplified anything, he makes Josh get to the LoS, look at the D, make the OL adjustments and alter the play and then drop back and run a, mostly, pro style offense from the pocket. Occasionally he'll mix in some running plays for Allen (usually in the red zone) but for the most part he has taken the training wheels off and let Allen sink or swim, like an old school OC used to do with their QBs, which is why it used to take QBs 3-5 years to develop. The Bills knew that their window for the SB wasn't in Allen's first two years, so why not teach the kid how to play honest to goodness QB in the NFL right off the bat. Particularly with a kid that's so raw and hasn't had any real coaching thus far in his QB career. Not only that, he's doing it with a multiple scheme where Allen can't get comfortable with a base set. It changes game to game. I'll admit, it's not the way to win games immediately but it's the best way to prepare your QB for the future. Yet just when that future is about to get here we change OC's? Ugh, that's the last thing I want to do at this point. Go back and look at Allen's Wyoming tape. He was a totally different QB. They have molded this kid these past two years into a reasonable starter and I believe if they stay the course he has a chance to become a good to very good QB. if they change OCs and Allen back slides next year Josh might not get a 4th season in Buffalo, who knows. Again, Daboll isn't perfect and he has his flaws. He sometimes let's the game get away from him and they're a tad conservative in certain situations for my taste. But overall I think he's been a good instructor for Allen and a big reason he's made the strides he has.

Imo the last thing Allen needs to be worried about this offseason is learning a new playbook. That is not going to help him progress with the things he struggles with. Allen struggles a lot with quickly diagnosing what the D is doing and figuring out where he needs to go within the offense. This isn't going to improve if its a new offense. He’ll be even slower in his recognition of his proper read and outlet. The better he knows an offense the quicker he’ll be. Im not saying Daboll doesn't have his faults but the biggest issue with the offense being consistent is Allen knowing where to go with the ball, getting his platform set and firing a good ball. Plays are there to be made time and time again and the players aren’t making them with the regularity they need to.

Sounds to me like this a preemptively telling the fans I want to be here but let’s see if the Patriots still believe in me, I.E. Pay me. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he played for another team next year.

You pretty much said what I said in my 2nd paragraph while giving the same types of excuses along the way that I mentioned in my 1st paragraph.

I remember people using catch per target percentage as a knock against Zay Jones even if it wasn't his fault that the ball wasn't a completion. Duke in week 17 had a 50% catch/target percentage (6 catches on 12 targets) Duke in the WC game had a 40% catch/target percentage. (4 catches on 10 targets) So NOW we're going to acknowledge that it's not always on the WR? Interesting...

Yep, it's Zay Jone's fault, it's the OL's fault, it's Foster's fault, it's Daboll's fault. Not saying that these players/coaches don't share some of the blame but a lot of the offense's struggles can be pinned on the QB running the show. Not all of it, but quite a bit. Allen improved greatly this year, he's not there yet. We need to see another jump next year. If we do and we get a little more help around him the team can contend for the AFC.

1) WR 2) DE 3) OL (RT if Ford moves inside or LG if he stays outside. Spain won be re-signed Imo as he will command too much. OL was okay this season, needs to improve though.) 4) CB (both an outside and a slot. Taron gets hurt too much to be relied upon at slot) 5) DT (Phillips isn’t worth the money he’s going to command. Not very good in the run game. Who knows how effective Harrison is in his return) 6) #2 RB 7) OLB Replacement for Alexander. 8- K and P could be upgraded but not a necessity.

I'll say this. NE and Buffalo are two of the NFL's 3 best defenses and both are going home after the 1st round of the playoffs. A great D is nice, but if you can't score points it doesn't matter.

By rule it was a forward pass and should have been a safety. This whole "intent" thing is ridiculous. I don't care what a player's intent was, when Josh Allen throws a pick that wasn't his intent. You follow the rules of the game and don't judge what a player was intending to do.

Josh Allen is like Brett Favre with ADHD. ?

Before the season started I had a dream the Bills played the Chiefs in the playoffs. I mentioned it to my son over breakfast the next morning. He said he had a similar dream a few nights before that the Bills were playing in the AFC championship. We deduced that it must mean that the Bills would be playing the Chiefs in the championship game.

I’m on that flight too!

From a poster named, “John in Jax” Sorry, it was too easy. ?

Without Wyche bringing the no-huddle offense to Cinnci the K-Gun is likely never a thing. RIP

If the coaching staff thinks he’s more important than a WR5 who contributes nothing to ST I’ll trust that they know more than posters clamoring for their fan favorite to see the field. Personally, I don't think Duke playing has anything to do with Foster, Foster is going to be active because of his ST play. Duke being active will depend if the coaching staff beleives they can sit a player from another position group. Before Wallace’s injury I would have said that the Bills don't need to dress 4 safties every week and Coleman could be sat. But now that the secondary depth is being tested Im not so sure. Lee Smith is another one I could see being sat but they like him for grinding the clock and goalline. Fans are making too big of a deal about this. Duke wouldn't see more than a few targets anyway, I don't want him taking targets away from Brown or Beasley. I wouldnt mind seeing him active but it’s just not a big issue.

Why is it nonsense? He’s 42 and any year could be his last. Maybe its this year, maybe its not. We have no way of knowing until Brady lets us know. I’ll say this, Ive heard him interviewed several times this season and reporters have frequently given him a question asking him about his love of the game and his response never leaves me believing he enjoys playing anymore.

Punts are only fair caught if the gunners get down field quickly and force them to be. Its not just about making tackles. Fans have never appreciated the importance of special teams, thankfully we have a coaching staff that does.

White wasn't on Parker for every snap. I just watched every Parker catch in that game and it looks like you can tag 5 of those catches on White for around 70-80 yards. Parker had a big gain in that game when White wasn't anywhere near him. Granted, Parker also had a big game where White got caught peeking into the backfield and jumped a route and Parker got behind him.

I had this thought the other day. If the Bills weren't going to win the Super Bowl, would I prefer a loss in the AFC championship game or the Super Bowl. I think I'd prefer a loss in the AFC title game, I couldn't stomach another SB loss.

Who stole my gramma’s rug and made Hopkins a coat out of it?!?!

He also give up yards by not fielding some punts and letting them roll past him. He did it vs. the Jets at it cost them 12 yards. Those are twelve yards that don't show up on a stat sheet. If it doesn't show up in the stats I guess it’s not important. Roberts is vastly superior the McKenzie as a returner. Sloppy ST would kill a team who relies on defense to win. Not sure why many fans don't realize the importance of that phase of the game.

I haven’t read the entire thread but Im assuming there are a bunch of posters questioning what Joe B knows? I mean, it happens every time he has a negative take on a player, I assume its the same when he says something they agree with.

I kinda agree with this. I really like that Daball runs a multiple scheme and wants to attack the opposing defenses weakness. I like this in a theoretical way though as I’m not sure we have the pieces to run it effectively. I think a few things hold the offense back from being as good as it could be. One, talent. They’re an average group of players on that side of the ball. Upgrades at WR, OL and RB are needed and more experience at QB. Two, execution. A QB who consistently makes good choices with the ball. It’s easy to blame Daboll but we see guys open andJosh either doesn’t come off his first read or just misses his wr. Drops come into play here too. Just too many overall. This is kinda a repeat of the talent point... Third, and this speaks to the point you were making, playcalling. The tricky thing here is it’s tough to know if this is all on Daboll. I get the feeling that having an very good/great D is holding the offense back because McD is preaching to just not make mistakes to lose the game. That leads to conservative game plans. To be fair, given the lack talent and lack of consistent QB play that may be the best way to go this season, it’s hard to know for sure. I do like the job Daboll has done with Allen. When he came out I had very little hope he’d ever develop I ot a franchise QB. He’s already better than I thought he’d be and hopefully he continues to grow. I give Daboll a lot of credit for that and I think the league, in general, does too.

Repeatedly breaking the rules laid out in the collective bargaining agreement wouldn’t have set well with old school players either. It was just hubris.