BillsVet

Nah dude, I'm just reiterating what the a lotta people said around these parts before the draft. It's amazing Khalil Shakir made the team...that WR depth is gonna be fun to watch.

I thought this roster was so stacked that mid-round draft picks had almost no hope of making the roster. Trust the process? When did that stop being the mantra?

I think Buffalo could have done better than Larry Kroger...a guy nicknamed "Pinto" for goodness sake.

Peanut Butter?

Is that you Sal Cappuccino?

I don't think philosophically McD and Daboll saw eye to eye on offense. Buffalo threw the ball 57% of the time last season and I can't see McD liked that imbalance. It's why they went after an IOL who is suited toward run blocking and drafted (another) RB high. We're going to see, but achieving offensive balance in this era is not always a good thing especially when you have an MVP candidate caliber QB.

You've got a lot of time on your hands...and thanks for following me around like a lost puppy. I've never criticized the Miller signing and won't because they needed a bona-fide pass rusher because McBeane could (EDIT: not) find one in at least 4 off-seasons. But context is key. Buffalo kept sinking picks and UFA dollars into that DL and still couldn't pressure with their front 4 as evidenced by the Divisional game. Doesn't remove the fact their top investment and best player remains Josh. And they did very little to support him besides another highly drafted RB and some 1 year UFA deals to aging veterans.

You'd think that after paying Josh 40M+ for 6 seasons they'd put better talent in front of him so he's less likely to get hurt. I guess they figure running it more and taking the ball out of his hands is the safer approach. We'll see.

When their top off-season acquisitions are Rodger Saffold, OJ Howard, and Jamison Crowder.

You think Hill is worth 30M per? On a team where they're paying Mahomes? Where they took the money saved this season on Hill and spent it on 2 receivers in UFA and used 2 of those acquired picks on defense? I'll trust the HC who fleeced McD 5 years ago to build an offense.

I'm thinking you're just dense and deliberately missing the point now. Enough so Josh isn't running the ball 9 times a game like he did from Week 13 through the Division Round. Enough so they can have more than 1 top end option at WR. Enough to keep pace with other AFC teams they'll meet in the playoffs. They aren't talented enough at offensive skill positions, notably WR and TE.

I don't live or die on likes. This ain't some mindless Twitter post where people crave validation for their thoughts. My criticism is directed toward how this franchise values and allocates picks/UFA dollars on offense. And I suspect how they'll scheme the offense this season. Josh covers up a lot of their offensive deficit in skill players and this will become evident when they try to balance out their run-pass play-calls. Another big issue is their skill players aside from Diggs aren't blazers. Last season in more than 1100 offensive snaps they had just 2 plays more than 50 yards. And I know about Davis' Divisional round game where he broke a few. This season he moves up to be a Z from that 3rd option he'd been before. He's never had a catch rate over 57% and now faces better coverage. The AFC is quickly become dominated by the teams who not only have the QB, but feature 3 and 4 receiving options. Compared to Cincinnati, the Chargers, and KC, Buffalo is not keeping pace offensively nor do I expect their defense to get to the playoffs and shut offenses down. Defenses can't do that anymore.

The coaches and front office handling of Ford really casts into doubt their "failing" forward approach on players, especially picks. And, he's the highest drafted OLineman they've taken in 6 drafts which supports my contention that they struggle to identify and develop offensive personnel. They nailed the Josh pick, but there is no other drafted player on that side of the ball who I'd say is a Pro Bowl caliber player. At least not right now.

We'll revisit this topic when Buffalo invests a high pick to replace Hyde and/or Poyer in the short term.

GB - This is a heavy dose of quibbling. You're citing the Rams and Bucs as evidence other teams are investing as much in secondary talent? I will be ecstatic when Buffalo also begins investing on offense the way TB and LAR have these past few seasons. Or, with KC who up until last season had All-Pro caliber receiving talents that scorched Buffalo's vaunted defense 2 playoffs going. I'm not arguing against drafting CB's high (sorry @BillfromNYC), but there's a decision to be made when they're as weak in outside skill players as this team is heading into the regular season.

2 first round picks in 6 drafts is a lot of draft capital, particularly when their WR depth is as poor as it is. As are the UFA/re-signing contracts for 2 safeties and a nickel CB. At some point, the defensive investment needs to pay dividends and, considering the original point of this thread, that should be this season.

This same rationale was used in 2006 when John McCargo flopped out of the league and Kyle Williams played well. Sure, it's great that they get a starting player but missing on 1st rounders and claiming that's acceptable for the aforementioned reason isn't enough. Not when the HC is from that side of the ball and has significant input into drafting that player. McD's big thing is secondary and he's invested a ton there.

Has @Logic weighed in yet on the comparison between Dick Jauron and Bill Belichick?

I'm sure some people still make this claim re: UFA's, even after signing Von Miller. A ready-made excuse is difficult for some homers to give up when they need to defend the team at all costs. As to WR and TE, I don't think the braintrust really values those positions like they do secondary and DL. Most of their talent at WR since this regime took over was imported, either via trade or in UFA with only a 2nd (Zay) and 3rd (Knox) used there. It's as if they find a reason not to draft offense because a more pressing need exists on the other side.

McD is the primary weak link in this franchise. Not just because of 13 seconds, but rather his vision for roster priorities. He has every defensive piece a former coordinator from that side of the ball could ever wish for. He has to win now or it's an indictment of his overall coaching philosophy.

One would think that a team who can identify the QB would be able to build an OL. It's not as if they haven't spent big dollars to do so, signing a C in UFA and re-signing their LT to large contracts. Drafting another interior OL high and paying Daryl Williams. The issue to all of this is, Buffalo has not focused much on offense save for the 2019 and 2020 off-seasons. The former was all-in on UFAs and the latter to acquire Diggs. No issues there, but it's as if they said we're set there and banked on Josh to make it all work after his excellent 2020 season. This year, they threw some token money at WR and TE, drafted (another) RB fairly high for the position and, like 2021, seem content running it back again. McD is, despite all appearances, a conservative HC. He wasn't enamored with passing the ball so often and, late in the year running Josh. Dorsey will give him what Daboll did not: offensive balance. Concern there is will the OL support more rushing attempts how does taking the ball out of Josh's hands make the offensive better, and when does the lack of WR depth show up?

Maybe when Oliver starts getting more than 60% of the snaps he'll approach that. Maybe. This is another reason why McD's defensive scheme needs an overhaul because he invests high picks and UFA dollars into Dlinemen who are not on the field upwards of 40-50% of the snaps. And that's his vision of defense, the 8-9 man DL rotation, which he'll never evaluate nor adapt. So you get a top 10 pick at DT who in his seasons starting has a 54% and 58% snap count rate.

In Carolina, Gettleman drafted more players (1) who had a 10 sack season than have Beane/McD here (0). When you're looking up at Gettleman something's dreadfully wrong. Not saying a guy like Rousseau can't get there, but it's an indictment of the organization's talent evaluation they haven't identified one yet who can do that...especially for a defensive scheme that has to get pressure from the front 4.

Clearly a "process" guy.

I don't trust McD to do the finishing work on a roster. He's more suited to do the demolition perhaps, but when it comes to sourcing an offense he still has a limited understanding for that side of the ball. He'll never recognize that building an elite offense covers up for mistakes easier than does whatever an "elite" defense looks like in 2022. Expectations for the defense are sky-high, as in that they'll just shut teams down so the offense doesn't have to do as much. If that strategy doesn't work, they don't have the offensive weapons to keep pace. And that's on McD and to a lesser extent Beane for prioritizing defense again. I'm not arguing against Miller and love the signing...it's just that they left themselves thin playing whack-a-mole with the roster.