ddaryl

LMAO at the fallicy that somehow Flutie just wins.. His NFL career was bolstered by stint with Buffalo's #1 Defense after that barley average in the W L column.. Flutie is the most over rated QB Buffalo fans make up... I throw up every time someone mentions him as some sort of delusional positive QB reference As for considering McCarron.. thats one of the nuttiest ideas this offseason. He's no better than teir 2 rookie in regards ot our best options IMO

OK you got me on technicalitties and the very rare very slight annomally Lamar or Allen are not accurate enough at the college lvl to waste a day 1 pick on. Thats what I am saying. Nobody should be trading picks to move up to get them or even wasting a precious 1st rd pick on them. Someone will and i hope to god its not the Bills cause if its the Bills then I'm just going to cry because I have no faith in a franchise that would waste a 1st rd pick on any top QB prospect with less than 60% college compeltion percentage. You want to find a diamond in the orugh you find them in the latter rounds not the 1st round. you're right I didn't say every single thought to the letter, my god I would have to type a novel to cover every little tid bit and possible annomally. But I wouldn't of drafted Wilson in the 1st rd, and neither did anyone else..... Which is what I say about Lamar and Allen pick them up in the late 2nd or 3rd nothing sooner. Maybe they turn out to be decent QB's but I would never gamble on that with a 1st rd pick. Wilson was a gamble and it paid off but it was a 3rd rd gamble not a mortgage the future gamble. Go through the last 10 drafts and find QB's that maintained top 15 status. Many of them were drafted 1st rd most of them had College Completion of 60% Here is a list of this years top 15 QBs. Staffor is the really only Anommally. Ryan missed by 0.01% which to me is a round up and callit 60% Tom Brady 61.9% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tom-brady-1.html 6th round pick Phillip RIvers 63.6% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/philip-rivers-1.html 1st rd pick Mathew Stafford 57.1% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matthew-stafford-1.html 1st rd pick Drew Brees 61.1% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-brees-1.html 2nd rd pick Ben Roethlesberger 65.5% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ben-roethlisberger-1.html 1st rd pick Matt Ryan 59.9% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matt-ryan-1.html 1st rd pick Kirk Cousins 64.1% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/kirk-cousins-1.html 4th rd pick Alex Smith 66.3% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/alex-smith-3.html 1st rd pick Russel Wilson 60.1% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/russell-wilson-1.html 3rd rd pick Jared Goff 62.3% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jared-goff-1.html 1st rd pick Blake Bortles 65.7% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/blake-bortles-1.html 1st rd pick Case Keenum 69.4% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/case-keenum-1.html UNDRAFTED FA Jameis WInston 66.0% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jameis-winston-1.html 1st rd pick Derek Carr 66.7% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/derek-carr-1.html 1st rd pick Eli Manning 60.8% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/eli-manning-1.html 1st rd pick 2016 not listed above top 15 for this year Aaron Rodgers 63.8% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/aaron-rodgers-1.html 1st rd pick Joe Flacco (Played divsion AA Deleware so stats were hard ot find ut 63.4% at Delaware http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=3350135 1st rd pick Andrew Luck 67.0% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/andrew-luck-1.html 1st rd pick Carson Plamer 59.1% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/carson-palmer-1.html 1st rd pick Andy Dalton 61.7% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/andy-dalton-1.html 2nd rd pick 2015 not listed above top 15 for this year Ryan Tannenhill 62.5% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ryan-tannehill-1.html `st rd pick Ryan Fitzpatrick 59% approximate hard ot find the stats but this was an eyeball average 7rd pick I mean we can discuss the possibilites of finding a hidden gem but the fact is if your drafting a QB in round #1 you do not waste that pick on a QB who has a sub par 60% college completion record.... you have 3 annomallies (4 if you want ot include Matt Ryans 59.9% in here) in the last 3 seasons reachng top 15 in the NFL in a single season. There are not many GMs in football proving to be smarter than the rest and grabbing a Russel Wilson type in the 1st rd.. Nope they wait and take a chance on a Russel Wilson type in round 3 Joe Flacco, Stafford, Palmer may be a case for a guy like Allen but that don't happen often enough to support a reach IMO because mor etimes than not they don't pan out. Flacco gets mentioned because he played AA ball in Delaware. SO I would rather trade away the entire draft and move up and get the best we can get then to settle and reach for a Lamar or Allen at 21.... I owuld rather take a flyer on a rd 2 or 3 guy 1st....

You can throw this stuff at me all day, and I used to be the same way... Use to hunt down all kinds of different stats etc... Bottom line every single QB that I tried to justify with secondary stats never panned out or was an OK QB in the pros at best. If you look at the best of the best in the NFL, those who are always competing for playoffs or destinied to be enshrined in HOF or already are you're not going ot find to many anommalies with less than 60% in college. If you do its usulaly a QB who has at least %9% like Carson Palmer Now if the bills sit back then grab Lamar in the late 2nd or 3rd rd then so be it, but he is not accurate enough to take any earlier IMO neither is Allen. If we are going that route then we have to land a top FA vet. My opinion remains Lamar and Allen are a late day 2 or day 3 option, anything else is a reach and could very well set any franchise backwards IMO. Hope its any other club but the Bills

well this means little. When I read this graphic I assume that Lamar threw the deep ball 75% of the time to bring his completion % down so much because this graphic says he is ridiculously accurate passer which the game tapes scouting reports and the stats do not support plus there are lots of reports that all say Lamar has accuracy issues doesn't lead his WR's well etc...

Brees threw for 60% consistently. Matt Ryan averaged 59.9% The others were all in the 59% area and actually had 60% in there last year. Russel WIlson actually had 72.8% in his last year when he transferred to Wisconsin. Palmer is the lowest of the bunch but actually pulled our a solid 63.8% his last year. Yeah these are on the cusp of the 60% threshold, so there can be some wiggel room, btu when compared to Allen or Lamar you just don't waste a 1st or 2nd rd pick open these types of QB's IMO. You can tear it apart but your retort did nothing to change my view on what QB's are worthy of a 1st rd pick. I would NOT TAKE A CHANCE ON ALLEN OR LAMAR based 100% on what I know.. Accuracy can not be taught if a QB does not have it he will not find it in the pros. Mechanics can be refined but accuracy is a have it or not situation IMO. SO lets look at Lamar and Allen and compare then to the 4 on this list.. There not even close in regards to completion % of reaching the 60% mark Lamar avg 57% and his best year was Carson Palmers average of 59.1% https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/lamar-jackson-1.html and Josh Allen 56.2% college career completion % Not even worth looking at but maybe the 3rd rd. Anyone who drat Allen earlier is wasting a pick IMO https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/josh-allen-7.html

accuracy can not be taught. You either have it or you don't/ if you have it you can refine it, but if your a college QB who couldn't complete more than 60% consistently it ain't never going to happen in the pros (See Josh Allen) Lamar is intruiging but you're not fixing the accuracy worries

Lots of people seem to agree with his take on work load for student athletes. Are you sure Peyton didn't get some special treatment where many other less star athletes didn't. it seemed to me Rosen was advocating for many other student athletes who will need to depend on those college degrees but their football workload made it harder for them to get the degrees they wil need to be successful. might be interesting to know how many college football players utilize their college degrees when college is done

Did you even look into what he said and why he said it.. I just went through that whole thing and I fail to see what he said was wrong..In fact most discussions on the topic support and understand what Rosen said and why he said it. Non issue in my book...

Im'k ok with Baker and Lamar you can keep Josh. You'l have to trade up for sure for Baker

goes without saying.. All I know is I remember that sinking feeling

That was me and my compadres 4 years in a row so as much as it is fun to see NE fans suffer i know that feeling all to well

http://www.knbr.com/2017/03/03/la-canfora-tony-romo-could-legitimately-land-with-49ers/ Looks like its a annual thing with San Fran to be in discussion for 3 way trades involving Cousins

the Bills and contention used in the same sentence.... The tide be turning

it don't matter who we draft at QB you better have a vet who can take the reigns for a year or so. maybe th erookie comes in and earns the job immediately but I wouldn't depend upon that. I would never put all my eggs into a rookie QB's basket

there is nothing positive about the word mafia. it is a very negative term. I make sure to distance myself form the term when ever it comes up I never understood it either.. I Figured we can do better, but some people like to jump off the top of vans and crack their skulls and set themselves on fire.. Too each their own I guess

I didn't watch the game.. didn't care, don't care Last time i heard the Bills were nto playing in the game

everybody loves taking a chance when it works out.. When it doesn't work out nobody will ever let you forget how screwed up you were for taking an unecessary chance. these hindsight threads are a laugh riot... todays NFL, yesterdays NFL, all pass happy, or dominating run game, defense wins chamionships, or a future HOF QB, it all comes down to to 2 things. Talent and execution...

the other teams QB was the best QB during the drought

it wasn;t a close game.. TB destroyed the Raiders. Ironically Gruden was porbably the only HC trade ever made in professional sports, and went on to beat his former team in the superbowl, only to get the contract of a lifetime and then some to rejoin the Raiders in Vegas. strager than fiction I tell you

I'm on the fence with this one I kind of want Tampa Bay to win it, but I just really hope they give the Raiders a good game.

I think the top 5 or 6 QB's in this draft will be better pros than McCarron. This is the year to draft a QB even if we sit and make no trades upward. As for having a vet in here to help until the rookie is ready we would want someone better that McCarron

why dwell on anything negative.

he seems to be a very under rated QB in this draft... Defintely a QB who could turn out to be a real gem that fell outside the top 10 or even 1st rd.

Allen worries me way too much... Too much relyng on arm strength and size but way to raw and loose on the fundamentals that make great QB's great With the speed/intelligence transisiton of the NFL game I just do not see him learning consistency and great mechanics quickly. if he slides down into the 2nd or 3rd round I'd grab him and try to groom him but he is not a day 1 starter and may take more than a year to iron out those bad habits. Whomever drafts him has ot be super patient and have a vet who can hold the reigns for more than a single season

https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Bolt/Report-Broncos-to-offer-Kirk-Cousins-very-high-guaranteed-contract-114438585 There is no "DEAL" in place just a lot of hear say and click bait... however its being reported that Denver is putting a lot of guarenteed money on the table come the time FA begins