Albany,n.y.

Gibbs was 30-34 in the regular season & 1-2 in playoffs when he came back in 2004-2007. Parcells never had a losing cumulative record in any of the 4 coaching stints with 4 different teams, improving every team he coached. The Patriots were only .500 during his time there, but in 4 seasons he took them from the worst team in football the year before he got there to AFC champs in his final season before going to the Jets & turning them from losers to winners. Gibbs 2nd stint in Washington diminished his credentials. Parcells never diminished his credentials, no matter how bad the team was before he arrived.

I want him in the "I'm going to Disneyland" commercial.

I know some people don't want to admit it, but Bill Parcells is perhaps the greatest coach of the modern era. While most HOF coaches can be linked to a HOF QB, Parcells won wherever he went with multiple QBs. Now add the defensive mind of Belichick to Parcells & you have the greatest 1-2 punch in NFL history. Maybe instead of blaming Levy for being outcoached, it's time to recognize how great the coaching was on the other side. A staff that would be able to out coach just about every other NFL coaching staff. That same staff also included past or future NFL head coaches Tom Coughlin, Ron Erhardt, Al Groh, and Charlie Weiss (I'm excluding Parcells' successor Ray Handley from the list, but he was a head coach too)

The guards on last year's roster were as bad as just about any guard group in Bills history (including 2018). The lone survivor is Bates, who is now our backup center. The top 3 are all newcomers, free agents McGovern & Edwards and draftee Torrence. The team proved you can't throw anybody in at guard & have any semblance of a decent O-line.

I'm old enough to remember Kemp & Lamonica followed by some dark days of Shaw and when Ferguson went down one of the worst half seasons ever by a starting QB, Gary Marangi. Any time I see fans calling for a backup it reminds me of the days of "We want Marangi" followed by us getting Marangi for 7 starts & then his exit from the NFL after setting records for futility that will never be broken. Then there was Kelly about to sign with the Bills when he received the infamous phone call in the Bills office and left for the USFL, not to be seen again in Buffalo for 3 years. In those years we endured Dufek, Ferragamo, & Mathison. We even had Art Schlichter playing horribly in a preseason game before getting cut when Kelly signed. After Kelly we pick up your list. I remember in 2007 I thought we had found the long-term answer in Trent Edwards only to see my optimism shaken along with his brain as he became Captain Checkdown. In the winter of 2018 I was too sick to really follow the draft closely, so I had no opinion whether Allen was the answer or not. I remember getting upset when the Jets traded up to 3, figuring the Bills would be aced out by the Jets for the QB we so desperately needed. The good thing was, by camp I was better & immediately jumped on the Josh Allen bandwagon after hearing the players like Shady raving about him. It's been a great ride with Josh and considering what we've had to put up with since we traded Lamonica to the Raiders, with the exception of the Ferguson & Kelly years with the brief hope Flutie brought & the very brief hope Bledsoe brought, well deserved for all us fans.

All they have to do is tell the water boy: Don't go for it on 4th down deep in your own territory.

One week it's "we've got to fire this guy" and the next week it's "we're going to lose him when he gets a head coaching job" Either way it's not looking good for Ken to be back next season. 😀

When the Jets scored 2 TDs in the final 2 minutes when Cleveland's RB scored with a 6 point lead, increasing the lead to 13 instead of going down and giving the Browns the opportunity to run out the clock, the coaches around the league reminded everyone not to do that.

Just stop

Makes me wonder why you watch. If you really think it's rigged, don't watch anymore and leave the viewing to those of us who think conspiracy theories are ridiculous.

I can just imagine the agony of someone who bet KC -8 watching Mahomes about to get the cover only to stop and slide and cost them the bet. That's got to go on Bad Beats.

OJ, you live in Florida. If you think that Miami has too many talented players, you know what to do. Just don't leave any gloves behind.

Samuel bails out Staley.

Probably the worst O-line in Bills history after they lost Wood & Incognito from 2017. Almost certainly the worst WRs in Bills history. Rookie Josh Allen made Robert Foster look like a future star. I saw the real future star in Josh Allen-winning half the games he started & finished, willing the team which should have won 2-3 games to 5 victories as the starter. The knocks against him came from 2 sources: 1) The stat boys who never saw him play & relied on what he looked like on paper & 2) The people who hated the fact that the Bills management thought they were smarter than them & had the audacity to pick Josh Allen over Josh Rosen.

I'm getting pretty tired of seeing all these ridiculous trade rumors on the internet all because some guy gets close to his deadline to write a story, dreams up a theory & sends it in so he can get paid for writing nonsense. So far, I've seen every QB making less than $40 million getting traded to the Jets.

We only have 5 ourselves. Saban, Knox (by 1 game), Levy, Phillips & McDermott.

Reading comprehension, pal. I stated: Between your revisionist history and the conspiracy theory that Super Bowl III was fixed, this thread is getting pretty strange. Your revisionist history and the conspiracy theory that someone else mentioned are two separate things, that's what the word between means. That's why it says THIS THREAD is getting pretty strange. I expect your apology soon. New Topic: The Jets have solved their QB problem with the return of Trevor Siemian.

Shula wasn't fired by the Colts. Between your revisionist history and the conspiracy theory that Super Bowl III was fixed, this thread is getting pretty strange. The relationship between Shula and Rosenbloom had soured after Shula's Super Bowl loss in 1969, and when Miami Dolphins owner Joe Robbie offered the coach a $70,000-a-year contract, the powers of general manager, and a 10% ownership stake in the AFL team after that season, he jumped at the opportunity.[48][49][50] Rosenbloom cried foul at an NFL meeting in 1970 in Hawaii, alleging that Robbie's hiring of his coach violated the league's prohibition on tampering, or negotiating to hire other teams' employees without seeking permission.[51] Shula and Robbie hoped that Shula's ownership stake and status as his own general manager would avoid tampering penalties under an exception for an employee leaving a club to "better himself".[49] League commissioner Pete Rozelle found the Dolphins in violation of the tampering policy because they didn't seek permission to negotiate and didn't notify the Colts of the hiring before its announcement.[51] As punishment, Rozelle awarded the Colts Miami's first-round pick in 1971 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Shula

I used Philly & KC in week 4. I put KC on the one I didn't already use them on, so after this week I can't use KC anymore. We've lost close to 2/3 of our entries so far but my 2 are still alive.

Nobody knew that the only highly ranked QB in the 2021 draft who was any good would be Lawrence, who the Jets lost out on by winning 2 games in a year Jacksonville only won one. Certainly not SF, who traded multiple 1sts for Trey Lance, nor the Bears who traded up for Justin Fields. The 2 recent years the Jets drafted QBs those drafts were loaded with 1st round QB busts. Sort of like the year the Bills forced themselves to draft a QB after letting Fitzpatrick go & ended up with EJ Manuel.

Douglas, who came in in 2019, drafted Wilson, but the GM who drafted Darnold in 2018 was Mike Maccagnan

Part of the NFL retirement package.

In 2017 they could, not in 2023 (nor 2022 when they both played their way out of the NFL, including benchings for both of them) .

Ryan is so washed up, he never has to bathe again & Wentz is trash. If a guy is on the street after week 1 there's a reason. More like NEITHER guy would make them a tough team to beat.

Sure, NFL teams are lining up to help the Jets. The best they can do is someone else's 3rd stringer or a street free agent(who is on the street for a reason). It's too late to get someone else in to salvage the season, they had the offseason to do that & failed to get Rodgers an adequate backup, probably because they already had too much cap money dedicated to the QB position, because of the drain Wilson's 1st round contract caused, and Rodgers huge deal.