DrDawkinstein

Ok Boomer. ? Not to stray too far off topic, but as someone who was already paying for Hulu, the Disney+ package is a great deal. Hulu, ESPN+ (w/Insider access), and Disney+ for like $13/month.

Is PFF a pay-for site now? I get ESPNInsider through my ESPN+ subscription, which I get through my Disney+ subscription.

Hoping for the same. A reunion with McD's system and getting out of the toxic waste dump known as "The Washington Team" should help anyone bounce back at least a little. ? I'll be stealing that

Since I haven't seen anyone post it...

Ha! Too many Bubbas!

Bubba wasnt at the track, his TEAM reported the noose as suspicious since it was their first time in that bay and no other bay had such a handle. NASCAR supported the team, and initiated an investigation. The FBI concluded their investigation, found no targeting, and also determined it was not planted there by Wallace's team either. The FBI also concluded that Wallace's team and NASCAR handled it perfectly, and the investigation was called for. No one staged a protest. No one made any reactionary moves. No one cried to boycott NASCAR. How did Bubba "go too far"? Instead of trying to "blame" Wallace for something, or demand he show contrition, how about we focus on the good. The unity that NASCAR, and all drivers and pit crews showed through this.

You went off relevant discussion 3 posts ago in your refusal to actually read the post you are replying to. Now we're just BS'ing in a dying thread.

Look at GG, going on Don Lemon's show and DOUBLING DOWN! You have better reading comprehension than this. I know it.

Listen, both your screen names begin with "J" and that's as far as people want to read. Deal with it!

Exactly. Nothing wrong with looking into something that is suspicious. Good on NASCAR for being supportive and protective of their drivers. There were no over-reactionary firings of NASCAR executives. NASCAR didnt hand Bubba a win, or punish other teams. They just rightfully investigated. Not sure why some folks are worked up and wanting to "blame" Watson, or have some sort of reactionary punishment or revenge. This all went exactly how it should. We should all be happy.

This entire situation went off perfectly, imo. Watson and his team found something suspicious, and reported it. NASCAR as a league, and all the crews involved, rallied around Watson to support him. An investigation was launched, and it was determined there was no harmful intent. Everyone goes on with their lives. Most likely closer and more unified than before. edit: The FBI also determined that Watson's team had NO involvement with planting the noose/pull, so all the #BubbaSmollet jokes dont apply and only serve to make matters worse. What's the problem?

Instead, we're all obsessed with Uranus.

Upper right hand corner, dude.

sighh.... *unzips*

The only thing I can come up with is that what I consider to be "the most embarrassing Bills moment" came against the Jets. When tin-man Chad Pennington juked Eddie Robinson out of his jock. That memory, and the disgust in that moment, is seared into my brain. That's all I got.

That's correct. The hammer does not consider the nail a rival. Unfortunately for us, we've been the nail for a long time. I'll take Jimmy Spags over any Bahston fan, tho.

There is absolutely zero data that backs up the notion that heat has any direct affect on the virus. And plenty of warm weather countries have had the virus sweep through. There are studies that show the difference in human behavior in warm temps has slowed the spread of other diseases and viruses (being outdoors instead of cooped up together in the winter). But no study has been able to prove that normal summer temps kill or slow the virus. I believe it was 160 or 180 degrees that finally killed it, but if it gets that hot we have bigger problems than COVID.

No, just their fans. ? But seriously, no. Pats and Dolphins are most hated, Jets just because of the division. I'd be totally fine with the Bills and Jets (Allen vs Darnold) battling it out for the division for the next 15 years while the Pats and Phins suck.

150 players and staff x 32 teams = 4800 people. That is how many people you are giving it to. That is the real number. Cutting it down to 100 is intentionally misleading. Heck, why not just apply 0.4% to every 1 individual? That means no one dies! Just show the virus that math! This mean we're on the same page? Look, I'd love to have a real plan on how to make the season happen. I even appreciate your creativity in trying to come up with a solution. But when you work through the math, it just doesnt work. Doesnt mean we give up.

Gotcha, so yeah, your plan is "give it to everyone and see who lives". That's not so much herd immunity as it is Culling the Herd. Some (not all) players might be of lower risk, but what about coaches and the rest of the staff? Frazier is in his 60s. Dabol is a chubster. We dont know who may have what vulnerabilities. This isnt fear porn, stop with your extremist nonsense. This is looking at real data and thinking about the real consequences. Let's think this all the way through since it's kinda clear you haven't gone any further than just having an idea. Even using your 0.4% mortality rate... Heck, I'll throw you a bone and use 0.2% mortality... Teams bring 99 players into camp, and lets say a staff of about 50 people each. That's ~4800 bodies you want to give the virus to. At a conservative mortality rate of 0.2%, that is 9.6 deaths. (Using the known rate of 0.4% puts it closer to 20) So 10 deaths of players and coaches in camp. When is the last team the NFL had even 2 players or coaches die in a single season? That would be looked at as a tragic year. Sorry, it's a bad plan.

Not my arguement at all and I wont address any of that off-topic nonsense until you address your original plan first. How do you see putting all the players in quarantine as establishing immunity and herd immunity? 1. Everyone is tested before going into this quarantine. 2. If no one has it, they can not pass it because there is nothing to pass. Which means they come out just as vulnerable as before. 3. If someone does have it, you are saying everyone is signing up to catch it from that person, like an old school Chicken Pox Party. Except this is deadlier than Chicken Pox. So you are asking all of these athletes to knowingly get the virus, and just hope they dont die. What am I missing in your plan?

Absolutely.

Just because they are quarantined for 6 weeks doesnt mean they come out magically immune. It could be that no one ever had it, so everyone is still at risk. Without a vaccine, "herd immunity" basically means "give it to everyone, see who lives and see who dies". That's not immunity.

Frankly this is positive news. This dude is a serial rapist and has been allowed to skate because of his connection to Scientology. Which, by the way, has poisoned the pets of one of the accusers. https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8548927/mars-voltas-cedric-bixler-zavala-scientologists-killed-dog