DrDawkinstein

Not attacking you in particular, but... Folks who keep spreading this rumor that hospitals were "incentivized" to put corona as cause of death need to start providing real links and sources. And do better than "my brother-in-law's neighbor's friend is a Doctor and he said..." Because the numbers and data do not justify that. If anything, looking at typical causes of death, it looks like Corona is being UNDER-counted. Source 1 Source 2 Source 3 Or look at total excess deaths: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm Under Dashboard select "Number of Excess Deaths" and then "All causes, excluding Covid-19". Across the US total excess deaths is 22000-43000. Let's say 30k. That means 30k more people are dying than we'd expect for this time period. If we assume all of those are unreported Covid cases (big assumption) then we're only reporting ~75% of total Covid deaths. There's this argument being pushed on social media that we're over-reporting deaths and it's not that bad. That's clearly not borne out by the data. We're probably under-reporting, and we may be under-reporting by a lot

Raiders owner says canceling the entire NFL season is still one of three options the league has for 2020 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-owner-says-canceling-the-entire-nfl-season-is-still-one-of-three-options-the-league-has-for-2020/

I'd be interested in seeing/hearing this report because a lot of it sounds fishy, or maybe it's just getting lost in translation from a treadmill to a message board The big news from the past couple of days is that Oxford has developed a vaccine that triggers an immune response (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53469839). It almost sounds like they were talking about this and lumping other possibilities in with it. But as far as having multiple vaccines ready to go, and that they'd be able to produce a billion doses in the next year or so... Not sure I'm buying it yet.

Bad sign? Didnt NYS already announce a couple week ago that teams can play, but no fans allowed? Seems like NY was the bad sign for NJ. That could all change if the country got their collective ***** together. But we wont.

I was raised to always send them, and we always have. But in all honesty, whenever I'm on the receiving end, I usually roll my eyes at how unnecessary it is. Weddings/Baby Showers, I know we're going to receive a thank you card. And if we've given an actual gift (as opposed to cash as a wedding gift), then it makes a little more sense. But if it's a kids birthday or graduation or confirmation, and all I've done is hit the ATM to get cash for the card my wife picked out... No separate thank you is necessary. Thank me when I give you the card, and the matter is done. Go enjoy the money I gave you, or do whatever you want with it. We're done here.

Your grandma was Vince Neil?!?

Sure, no problem! https://didyouknowfacts.com/why-young-people-say-no-problem-instead-of-youre-welcome-and-why-older-people-hate-it/ https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/124189121619/no-problem-vs-youre-welcome And lastly, an in-depth article that ultimately shows it doesnt really matter which you use. We, as humans, just need a way to end the conversation while being semi-polite. Too much to quote. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-dont-we-say-youre-welcome-anymore_n_5a6fab14e4b0a52682fecef0 You're Welcome!

Yeah, Univ of Hawaii just proudly proclaimed they had no positive tests, and the players immediately re-tweeted saying NONE of them had been tested yet! So I guess that's something?

Absolutely. It is no where near over. In a subsequent post I noted the spike that Spain is currently seeing this past week. The common sense practices have to keep going in order to keep a grip on it.

That's right. Until there is a vaccine, any talk about "herd immunity" actually means "culling the herd" because the only plan there can be "let it spread and see who dies". Not a good plan. Thanks for the vaccine info and update. From that timeline it sounds like we should be able to have NEXT season, but any sports in 2020 are a reach.

It wasnt all immunity, I'd argue that had the least to do with it, it was following (or enforcing) the common sense rules. Germany, Italy, and Spain were all hit just as hard as each other. And they could see it come back at any time (notice that bump Spain is seeing). But the common sense practices are helping keep it down. New York: WOMP WOMP

Herd immunity is a pipe dream at this point. We dont even know if it's really possible, and considering we're starting to see people re-diagnosed after their first recovery, it may not ever be until there is a vaccine. (edit: I was just pulling up my sources from the re-diagnoses story from this weekend, and it looks like they are now saying it's merely remnants from the first infection, so maybe there is some hope) I'm simply talking about getting a handle on the virus. Italy, Germany, Spain all did it and they have soccer back. South Korea has baseball back. New Zealand has Rugby back. They were all able to drive down the daily new case numbers to a point where re-opening made sense and wasn't a major risk. New York state has managed to match the curves of those countries, but plenty of others like here in Georgia are seeing the exact opposite. Video footage from this weekend shows downtown Nashville as packed and roaring as ever with not a mask in sight. So we choose our choices and get what we deserve.

It's always about entitlement and servitude. Notice the signs said "I want my hair cut", not "I want to cut hair".

Everyone dropped the ball on the marketing and revenue money that could have been generated with masks. Trump could have been making a KILLING selling #KAG masks this whole time.

Glad I could help! Let me know if you have any other questions.

I said back in March that the PSA campaign should have targeted a "If you want Football, then... (wear masks/social distance/etc)" message. It's the one thing most folks down here in the trouble spots take seriously. Especially college ball.

Correct. This isnt a "League issue" as much as it is a Country issue. Had Americans just taken this seriously from the start, we'd have a season. But that didnt happen, so here we are.

2015–16 record: 35–36–11 2016-17 Record: 33-37-12 2017–18 record‎: ‎25–45–12 2018-19 Record: 33-39-10 2019–20 record‎: ‎30–31–8 Not even a single season above .500, let alone a playoff appearance which most NHL teams can fall back-asswards into just out of luck. O'Reily went to the last place Blues mid-season and won a cup that year. McDavid and Matthews both have their teams in the playoffs since being drafted. It isnt ALL on Jack, he's a talented hockey player, that's why I said "those losers" referring to anyone from the Sabres in general. But he isnt "the guy" like other superstars, and NFL QBs, need to be.

Loved Hot Rod too. LIke i said, go in cold and the first 15 minutes will have you going "WHAT. THE. *****. IS. HAPPENING?!?" and then when it all comes together, it's a great take.

It is (imo) the best thing Andy Samberg has done since Dick in a Box.

Of course I dont think the league officials have just been chillin in their pools all spring/summer. But they obviously dont have a plan. If you read player tweets, there are basic questions that the league doesnt even have answers to. That said, I 100% agree the scope of this problem is huge and probably impossible. What this ultimately shows is, there most likely won't be a season. It's too big of a problem to merely "work around".

I made a separate thread about it, because it deserves it, but if you havent watched Palm Springs on Hulu yet, I highly recommend it. Dont watch any trailers or read about, it's better to go in cold and not knowing what is going to happen.

I think a better title for this thread would be "NFL Leadership Drops the Ball". The players arent necessarily revolting because there is nothing to revolt against. The NFL has NO real plan. They had the most time out of all the leagues, and after months of available planning time showed up with nothing. No way should players be expected to play under that.