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I had the same thought. It would be a good PR move and funny.

I just don't see how packaging even all the late round picks moves you far enough to get into the first and obviously, you need at keep at least 4 or 5 picks even if you believe the roster has relatively few openings. I doubt a 2021 2nd or 3rd rounder provides sufficient value to push yourself into the first. The conventional wisdom that I always hear is you downgrade a round, so a 2021 2nd = 2020 3rd, etc. I can see Beane using later round 2020 picks to try and move up within a round. I would be in favor of moving up towards the top of the 2nd, though that may cost you your 3rd and that is an expensive buy. I see the need for youth at edge, btw, though myself I would still go offense. I like big WR like Claypool or a really dynamic RB to pair with Singletary. My guess, however, is that they probably go DE, CB, or S either at 54 or with a trade up into the top half of round 2. (I really think it is going to kill Beane to have to sit out the first round and he will be itching to get in the game earlier in the second.)

If there are children involved, I hope there was a prenuptial agreement they'll be raised Bills' fans.

Well, we agree on Mina and Claypool. Allen, bit of a difference, but two out of three ain't bad. I suspect they go D in the second, but I would prefer big WR or RB 1B.

So you think they're going to trade next years first? I don't see how else you get into the first. I would hate it, btw.

Thanks. I like your rankings, btw. I would trade up for Swift, but I'm an UGA fan so perhaps unduly biased.

What round is this fella likely to go? I read we had a virtual meeting, so he appears to be on our radar.

I think there needs to be improvement and I am expecting that. If Allen is the same player he was in 2019 with better players around him, that's a red flag. I am somewhat concerned about Daboll's playcalling. I also think it's important to have another good rb brought in to pair with Singletary. I am not waiting to the mid to late rounds to pick up a fella. 3rd round latest, imo.

As in mehdieval?

And there you go. I don't at all grant that mediocre starting Qb is Allen's ceiling.

Cycling the way Jrober proposes seems to me simply a veiled way of saying what he's plainly said numerous times before. He doesn't think Allen will develop into a franchise qb. And really, if your guy isn' t showing real promise and some significant achievement after year 3, you're probably drafting a young guy anyway, so I'm not sure there is that much of a point there.

The 1019 version never even heard of the game of football, so you have to cut him some slack.

The game was too big for them -- still if one fella makes a block for Josh, its a W. And the refs were atrocious, six fingers ?.

I really think you've nailed it. Processing what he's seeing on the field faster will determine if Allen becomes a franchise qb more than any other factor.

Yep, though impartial is probably asking for a lot on a fan board. How about relatively rational? I am a hopeful optimist with regards to Allen. His rookie year was badly mismanaged. Second year, talent was at least NFL average at o-line and skill positions. TE is still below average, though Knox could make a leap and change that. He has the potential to be very good. O-line needs some maulers. I think you need to add another stud rb to the mix. Still have some worries about Daboll as a playcaller. All this contributes to how Josh Allen will develop as a qb. I'm fine with skeptics so long as they can admit Allen so far has progressed and that his eventual plateau is still unknown. What I object to is the notion that those of us who perceive "haters" on this board are delusional. There are a few and whether they are obvious or more subtle, they already want to move on from Allen because they "know" he is a bad qb.

Thanks for the fine work you consistently provide to this board, Gunner. How early in the 2nd do you see Swift and Dobbins going? Think there's any chance Beane would move up to get them? I surmise it would probably cost too much to move up to the top of the 2nd. (I know, you can make a good case for edge or OT in the second. I am intrigued by the idea of a really excellent backfield; in any event, just hypothetical, even if unlikely.)

Yes, I understand. The post you quoted is not representative. There are plenty of posts that are not game day where that fella went out of his way to gratuitously bash Allen (i.e., threads not even ostensibly about Allen.) A few folks here qualify for hater in my opinion. I find it rather bizarre that apparently many think there are none. The point is moot, in any event. If there is a season, Josh Allen's play on the field will determine whether or not he's a franchise qb and he should have sufficient experience, continuity, and talent on the field to demonstrate if he's continuing on an upward trajectory or not. I thought so, but this thread seems to call that into question.

A girl in a bikini?

Nextmanup is not stating "expectations and everything is on Allen's shoulders." He presumes in a crusading fashion that Allen is not good and we ought to be moving on. Did you ever look in on game day threads? He's got an agenda and it's surprising you discerned no hint of that. I've read the fella numerous times and I've got a background in literature and philosophy, so reading comprehension is not typically a problem for me, but you know, you're free to give your own summary and conclusions and the folks who give Lombardi trophies for such are also free to enjoy their imposed free time in such a fashion.

Well, I suppose it may depend on how one defines hatred. Go search Nextmanup or BringbackOrton. There are a few others.

I don't know if we have the ammo to get early 2nd, but if Swift or Taylor fall I can't imagine them available beyond that point. (Dobbins is in that conversation, too.) Akers is the fella I like who might plausibly be there at #54, btw.

I can think of three or four who only post so they can hate on the fella. They literally hijack threads to tell you he is not and never will be any good. You have to read very selectively to miss that. Nearly everyone agrees he has to play better and almost everyone recognizes that saying that does not equate to hate.

Props for egads . . . The addition of Diggs is huge and D. Williams might turn out to be a very smart addition to the o-line, but the offense still needs addressing. RB2 or 1B or however one conceptualizes the position ought to be a priority. I like a few players for WR4 with some size, too, but I agree if Taylor inexplicably falls, Beane needs to move up to get him. As an UGA fan, I'm also partial to Swift, but I assume he's gone late first round.

The answer is they never had a season. The NFL used a lottery system to determine the draft order. The Bills ended up picking 32nd. Now go out and cut the lawn. (Just channeling irate wifey. Love the fin-de-siècle aesthetic references. I wrote a novel with a significant character named Absinthe.)

Just realized this is an illustration for well-oiled war machine. She seems nice . . .