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part of me thinks they do. If they have the patience to sift through the usual banter and arrive at the truly nice analyses. We have some very knowledgeable posters who write better than the general media. FWIW, (LAMP maybe), my poll of this group for the single reason for the Offense's issues overwhelmingly came up with Dorsey. So as a collective, we know a lot. McBeane came around to our way of thinking

Toxic relationships affect a person's overall life. I am totally speculating that his relationship with Dorsey is the root cause. That is spreading to his demeanour , his personal relationship (breaking up with one, immediately jumping into another) and his general lack of interest. This is akin to somebody whose work performance goes down due to a horrible situation with the spouse.... This is in reverse. All my speculation from the progression of things. A highly motivated and talented individual doesn't suddenly become a disconnected soul.

I do give him credit for coaching the Bills to relevancy, for getting respectable players and making the team honorable (for lack of a better word) And yet ... He now has an undeniable track record of gaffes, lack of preparedness and underwhelming schemes. The O is such a mess and I can't understand what happened to this team after the Green Bay game last year. Several here said that last year was emotionally hard on the team. I didn't fully buy into that explanation and this year is devolving as we speak. I sorely miss the period from 2020-mid 2022. We dominated teams and there was no opposing lead which was safe against us. To have such a record with a talent like Allen (who is clearly disinterested and unmotivated) is a fireable offense.

Me for sure. And then 5 seconds later, I crash landed

What a bloody mess

Are you friggin kidding me????

Maybe he will miss the FG when it comes

The next play is the game

Better to be lucky than good

This games is making me sick

Ferguson more pumped than Allen

Buffalo D playing it's heart out

I worry that some of Dorsey's psycho personality may rub off on Allen, make him more hyper and go against the "low positive" (whatever the heck that is supposed to do). But yea, Brady isn't helping much on the sidelines.

Fournette would complement Cook not start over him. However, I dont yet know if he is activated for the game.

3 of the 4 teams that beat us, lost their next game.

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The on field demeanour, performance and record is reminiscent of the drought era Bills with Allen being the sole difference. Imagine this team without Allen at QB.

What point are you trying to make? Cos it ain't related to the topic of this thread.

This is fantastic stuff, HH. Cant thank you enough for putting in the effort. Also, you articulated this in a language which a non-coach can understand Few of my notes: - Kincaid is really coming along and the move that led to the fumble is something he will learn from. It was a pivotal play of the game so it hurt us, but he seems to be a bright kid and I dont expect it will happen again - I thought Davis made at least two major errors: gave up on his route down the left sideline which resulted in Allen throwing to no one and drawing a (stupidly called) intentional grounding penalty. And second was a critical drop (cant recall at what point) which was due to him not concentrating or fighting for the ball. Yea, he is good as a blocker but at this time the liability due to not doing his primary job well outweighs the benefits of his blocking - OL was getting overwhelmed yet again, as you noted. Which is incredibly frustrating because Beane added Govern and Torrance to the interior where we had the highest need last season. I cant figure out why we still continue to lack consistency on the OL performance - I am looking forward to Joseph coming up to speed quickly and help the interior of the DL - Apart from the X's and O's, there is something lacking in the scheme which allows quick release QBs to have success. Imo, the pressure has to come from the front 4 allowing the backers and DBs to cover and take away the quick throw opportunties. Why do you think we are failing in this regard? Thanks again, man.

It was a mis-spelling of Perdue. Not sure what you are thinking The thought did cross my mind but he wont be able to get along with McDermott. There is way too much personality clash there for this union to work.

Didn't you just answer your own question?😀

Well and fine that the national media is targeting the Bills, but they don't have "an axe to grind". That term doesn't mean what you think it does #grammarpolice

That is brutal. Seeing the receivers trip over each other, not having routes that cover the field, running into coverage... I don't see the receivers being confident in their route running. No wonder Josh was hitching so many times. This offense is a royal mess right now.

He absolutely is a very good coach. The question is if he can put this team over the top and the answer is trending towards a no, imo. I understand the fear of making this worse but with Allen still in his prime, the chances are low. As for improving performances, coaches like Sirianni and Shanahan did that in shorter amount of time . And they were starting from a lower base than a new coach would with the Bills. If a previously successful coach were to become available (cough,.... Belichick.... Cough) would we not look in his direction and stay the course? Even if that course has flat lined to declining? I have definitely run out of patience. Last year was very tough for the team but the regression we are seeing this year is inexcusable. Imo, of course

I don't think McDermott is exclusively the reason though you may argue he is go root of the underperformance of the team as a whole. I was focusing on the O and hence didn't include that choice Respectfully, the Rodgers-Hackett comp is compelling but in the Bills' case, Kincaid is coming along as a #2 though not an impactful one yet. I am torn tbh but think that a competent OC can make best use of the resources available. I am also not absolving Allen of blame. So far the results overwhelmingly say that the community consensus is Dorsey.