ndirish1978

I don't think McDermott wants choir boys and he has said as much. I think he wants gym rats who try to be good people.

You are ridiculous. I'm talking about statistical probability and you're using an outlier to "prove" your point. That's like saying "that one guy won powerball by buying a single ticket, so why would you buy more than a single ticket?" Your argument basically states that the guy who spends $1,000 on powerball tickets has the same likelihood of winning as the guy who buys one - it's moronic. The draft is a crapshoot, all you can do is maximize your chances of hitting. You don't get to draft in hindsight, else I dare say that Brady MIGHT have been the top pick in the draft. And yes you did base your argument on Brady when you posted a chart that relied mostly on his being there.

I made a point, the other guy decided it was cool to insult me for it. I defended my point. I don't care about that dude. My point is that the goal is supposed to be sustained success is it not? If, as a GM your goal is to catch lightning in a bottle for a single season and make it to a championship, ok. But that's not a recipe for a successful franchise. The other guy's point is that Tom Brady was a sixth rounder. That's a BS argument any way you slice it.

I mean if their ceiling isn't top 5. If the opinions of a guy are all over the place, it's historically been more of a crapshoot. Let's be honest, even consensus top QBs fizzle out as often as they pan out, but you at least have a chance with them. 2 of the guys on your list were pushed way down in the draft because of height concerns, but not necessarily talent concerns. I'm getting tired of people who hold Wilson and Brady up as examples of how you can take a shot on a later pick and have them pan out, they are the exception to the rule, not the rule. If you want to put yourself in the best position to succeed all you can do is minimize risk factors, that's quite frankly the only real option. If you're going to be risk-averse, that's fine and it's absolutely that team's prerogative. But don't do that and then justify your argument by saying there is a chance this lesser prospect could be just as good as the higher touted one. There are many more Leafs and Jamarcus Russells out there as there are Wentz and Mannings, other posters have shown statistical correlations between how high a QB is picked and their chance of success in the NFL. The percentages may still not be great, but it's better than nothing.

The premise to your entire argument is Tom Brady? Yeah, real solid point. Let's keep dumpster diving for a couple more decades.

I believe Shaq may be on the trading block per Bills Fanatics.

Touche. But we made him the first QB taken, so I figured I'd give them a point for apparently trying.

It's absolutely not, but thanks for calling me Sally.

Then you must be on the FA QB train? How does drafting a second-tier rookie QB help this team? I'm tired of pretending our scouting staff is somehow plugged in to things other teams aren't. If your guy isn't a consensus top pick the odds are he isn't a franchise QB.

Losman was the 4th QB taken and we unwisely traded back into the 1st round to take him only after drafting lee evans, which should show you that they didn't actually view him as elite. We took him as a consolation prize after not getting Big Ben and tried to sell him as being just as good as Ben, Eli and Rivers

So basically you are cool with the Qbs we have?

I don't get returning to the well of "let's take a non-elite QB." We have gone that route since JK retired with the exception of Manuel and it has never worked.

You must consider the identity of the OP in order to understand the reaction to them. Reactions to source claims are generally based upon people's opinions of the poster offering them.

Probably is. Looks like they just made a list of perceived needs and then offered a selection of their top-graded players at that position

Can't Throw Unless They're Open

I believe he said he wants to plan for winning now and plan for the winning in future, not mutually exclusive. But yes, any plan with Peterman as a starting QB seems contrary to either goal.

If you put Josh Allen's skill set in Kyle Williams' body you get Jared Lorenzen. I like this game.

I've never really liked Costas and I have zero actual reason for it.

Correct. If you see a guy who can be a top QB in the future then you go get him. If we were ever going to have a chance at getting a QB it's this year because of the extra 1st rounder.

I just want Castillo gone more than anything

Really cool, hope you have that framed!

I feel like you're taking one comment and trading that in for his skill set. NFL-ready just means he's taken snaps under center and has been asked to go through progressions. It does not mean "yeah he's the QB who can start immediately for your team." If the latter were true he wouldn't have been a 5th rounder. Best case scenario Peterman never steps foot on the field for us outside of the pre-season.

That's what immediately came to mind when I saw the amount and doubted it would work. The last league failed because of a dearth of quality players. Personally, I wish they would bring back NFL Europe and make it run in the offseason. Interest in football is picking up across the pond and I think a UK/German league for 6-8 teams is a viable option as a minor league.

He's primarily a blocking TE right?

I need to go back and watch Milano more. Is he a legit starter, or just the best we had at the time?