Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Yes at times, but he's had more better times in between, and he still was able to win the game in the end. Not that I'm blaiming JP fro the loss, but as was stated earler, JP did nothing to help himself to a big contract next season and may have hurt himself as maybe he could hope there are some GM's as delusional as people here are and would have thought with Turk calling the plays and this offense, JP would have been better than TE. After last Sunday, that cat has now been let out of the bag. Consdiering the serverity of the bad plays, I really don't think he did overall have more good than bad. JP played a pretty good game as a backup as well as you could expect, but if you think he can be a good starter next year, I'd be shocked. Based on what we saw Sunday, he's still the same ol JP. Considering how many teams have very bad QB's he may get a shot as a starter, but will be surprised if he lasts all year as the starter. As many other stated, I don't hate JP, but I've come to realization that after four years he just isn't as good as a guy with 1 1/2 years. There's hope that TE can improve based on his lack of experience, but after four years for JP, there really isn't anymore hope. Admitedly after 1+ years there was hope for JP too. Maybe TE will also hit that wall and never get to the next level. I'd be surprised though as many of the things TE has exceled at are the things that are diffuicult to ever learn such as processing information, sensing the rush, etc.

I was a JP supporter up until last year, so I'm not saying this as trying to knock him, or praise him, I certainly think TE is clearly the better choice now. In his defense, he didn't practice much the past week as being the backup. He did score 17 points, which isn't bad for a second stringer QB. His second half was horrible, one one hand you can argue that Az had their ears pinned back and blitzed the hell out of him. On the other hand typically when a team is way up in the 4th quater, the losing team can pile up big yards as the leading team is in the "typical bend, but don't break" mode, however that didn't happen here. JP played like a typical backup and there's a reason for it, that's about all he's capable of. For those predicting next year JP will go elsewhere and be a sucess, in my opinion Sunday's game was more evidence that that isn't likely to happen. For those knocking him for what he did as a back-up are way off base, he did fine, AS A BACKUP. For those expecting great things of him next season, what you saw Sunday is likely what you'll see next year in some other stadium. And BTW if for some reason he was willing to sign with Buffalo next year as a backup, I'd take him as he still is better than many teams 2nd stringer. In fact even as bad as he played Sunday, he still is better than some teams starters, but only cause many teams have a terrible 1st string QB

"Almost certainly" does not equal conclusive evidence. Therefore unlikely would ever have been over turned. It's one of those plays where if Royal had been ruled down by contact and Arizona challenged, they also would have lost the challenge. Not matter what happens, will never be over turned. So the only argument for challenging IMO is that it occurred at such a big point in game, that it was worth taking a chance on even if the odds are 100:1 against being over turned. As others pointed out, it may have been he was waiting for a better answer from upstairs, or their answer was don't bother. Seems also there's something about if the first thing to hit the ground is the ball, then the ground CAN cause a fumble kind of to prevent people from just blinding sticking the ball out in front of them when going down to get an extra yard. They still do it, but they take a chance in doing so as there are some potential negative consequences if the ball slips from their hand on contact.

In other news Cinny cut Dallas's lead to 17-16

Thank god we lost this game. As was pointed in earlier in the week in another thread, it was better to lose today as it will help us in the tie-breakers

I can't find the link on Stooge TV as it's scrolled off the page

Are you getting this "Windows media player can not acces the file" error? on Stooge TV Anybody have a code for Justin?

Oh no,......... losing to an AFC team just means you lost a game. Am I missing something, do you automaticially get credited for one win for each game you lose to an NFC team?? If so, then great idea! If not then stupidest thing I've ever read. You're just making some kind of crazy assumption that if you beat NFC teams means you're losing to AFC teams I hope you are joking as no one can be this dumb!

I'd recommnend Stooge TV over the others as you can adjust the size of the viewing window to what looks best, and little of any buffering when watching. This week I'm planning to go watch the game in a bar.

In case anyone wanted to read about the history of the NFL in HD, here's the entire history. Packers, Gmen, Coygirls, and Pats have had the most games. Bills appear to be a bit below average, but considering how poor the team has been in past ten years, and as small of a market you have here, I'd say not too bad. NFL in HD

I liked JP and thought he was developing pretty well. The problem though is never seemed to be be mentally keep up with the game. That part I'm not sure if he'll ever get. He certainly won't be along in that respect as that's one of the things that pushed many QB's to the bench. Thinking on their feet kills them. On the other hand these are the things that TE seems to be very good at.

As an FYI for next week, it's just www.stoogetv.com At abou 1:00 the links started appearing for all the games. The thing that I liked better about Stooge is you can size the viewing window to whatever size you want. Justin TV gives a choice of about 3 X 3 or full screen which is real blurry. I made it about 5/5, was large enough to see pretty well, but not too large to be blurry. There's links there to just about anything baseball, all the football games. It's kind of like Sunday ticket, just not a real clear picture. Actually I don't understand alot about this whole thing as to how it works, but am wondering are there things I could do to make the picture sharper? Settings, hardware, other??

No it's not incomplete becasue it never hit the ground. What the refs are saying is Evens was juggling it, then the Raider player got a hold it as they went down.

Well what do you find fault with? If there was a law that you needed to have even half a brain to have an internet account, the web would be very loney place!!

Edwards didn't look great early, though he had no help from the line with blocking and recievers with drops and fumbles. But right now regardless of the outcome, this is a big learning experience for Edwards and he's looking very good.

Umm.... Cause then instead of being down by two if they make it they'd still be down by one. On the otherhand if they miss, then they are down by three and a feild goal at best ties it!!

Why was it a stupid throw?

Stoogetv is working real well for me. No buffering at all.

The Bills deferred to the second half. The rule changed this real to be the same as college

Yes, the Bills deferred

Not a good start

Isn't it channelsurfing.NET??

I'ts also possible that Angelo was going to have the scaled back version and come back in 5 weeks or so, but the Bills doctors felt he needed the "works" so their opinion was if he had the scaled back version and came back in five weeks, he still wouldn't be playing a very high level. The fact that after he went on IR, he delayed the surgey, got second. maybe even third opinions, then ends up having the "works" makes me believe that may have more been the case. I definitely think there is more to this and likely he would have bee nout longer and/or returned on a borken wheel. It's real easy for his agent now to claim all he needed and was going to have was the scaled down version. That may have been what he was going to do, but everyone recommended more. It's funny too how his agent claimed Angelo wasn't going to comment on this, but take the "high road" Meanwhile his agent had no trouble blasting the Bills. (not that it's surprising)

So how do these systems work? When you go to a site like Stooge Tv etc, how do I seach for the actual game? In the past couple weeks I've used the link posted to go to the game via Justin TV or XSsports and that worked OK, though at some points the repsonse was terrible. Actually last week the fourth period was the only good period from a response perspective, my guess is that many Bills fans gave up once they fell behind so then the response was good. But I don't have any idea how to search for an actual game myself?

That may be, but how does he compare to the top cover guy on the 31 other teams? Is he in the top 5% as by tagging him, that's the money you're giving him. Considering how fast salarys escalate, overpaying for a year or two may not be the worst thing though.