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Allen can do no wrong. With Mahomes’ OL, vastly superior supporting cast, and legendary coaches, he’d have at least 3 SBs to Mahomes’ 2. /s

Very Leslie Frazier-like. And just like Frazier the Eagles D has struggled against any decent QB they’ve faced - except Trevor Lawrence who repeatedly coughed the ball up.

This is clearly hyperbole and has been discussed over and over with the comparisons of Mahomes’ weapons vs Allen’s. Maybe you mean we need a scheme that can get players wide open like those two inside out TDs. Any of our weapons could make those plays. Another game breaker on offense would be nice, but so would tighter execution of the plays that are available to be made.

From The Athletic. This is interesting, because to me the Chiefs defense has proven time and time again to step up and make the plays when needed. I’m not sure what this Betrayal Index is, but I’m positive it’d list Allen as one who has the most help from his defense/ST, yet look which unit consistently folds when it matters… We need a Spagnuolo/Anarumo type of DC.

Anything to rankle Nick Wright!

Every offseason Josh has improved in some area. For those saying “I wish Josh had these easy throws Mahomes has” well, he does, he just opts not to take them. Mahomes has learned to take those easy pitch and catches, keep the chains moving. One thing that is inarguable between the two is that Mahomes does have a vastly superior OL, but I hope Josh dedicates this offseason to the mental approach of the game. Pre and post snap processing. Hopefully he’s poring over tape, like it’s an obsession.

Eagles actually did have trouble stopping good offenses this season. Don’t have the numbers on me, but all the capable QBs they went against put up lots of points, except Trevor Lawrence. Supposedly it was a bad weather game and he kept fumbling the ball. As highly touted as their defense was, it didn’t step up when it needed to. Scheme related? Perhaps. Maybe they rely on their front four too much, like the Bills and when they don’t get home and they’re forced to blitz, they give up lots of yardage and points because the DC doesn’t specialize in calling crafty blitz packages.

So Hurts will never have a proper chance to answer based on a ticky tack penalty. Wow.

Wow refs. Wow.

Eagles imploding.

Eagles D has been tissue paper this half.

Hurts has been throwing DIMES

Not sure he has an NFL future at that size. You could try him as a pass rush specialist, only bring him in on passing downs, but he’d have to be really, really good. Kyle Williams fell to the 5th round because experts thought he was too small and he was a lot bigger (and probably stronger) than this guy. Small dudes don’t regularly win in the trenches.

He’s smaller than Donald, Oliver, and Randle. Who else near that size has been a disruptor?

He was having issues before the elbow injury happened. As we all know, it started after halftime of that Packers game and continued the very next game against the airplanes. It’s like he stopped seeing the field as well, started throwing mind numbing INTs too. I will say, the hit his elbow took looked far worse than the one Brock Purdy took and he somehow wasn’t out for 3+ months. The guy is tough as nails, all grit. That same elbow took another similar hit later in the season and I clenched my jaw, I thought “there it goes, he’s out of there” but somehow it didn’t compound the issue. Allen could certainly do better to help his OL at times (I’m not counting the instances where Saffold gets beat in literally a second), but knowing his style of play, fortifying the OL is priority #1 this offseason.

I said the hit would be fined and flagged If happened today, referenced my two posts above so you couldn’t miss it. Doesn’t matter if it was a shoulder to shoulder hit which is legal contact, it’d still be flagged for unnecessary roughness. But I knew you would lack the conviction to stand on your own words and put this discussion to the test, even if it was with a neutral fanbase. A team of your choosing. I said it earlier, talkers like you shrink when forced to put their argument to the test so run along now. You’re just wasting my time with any other rebuttals that aren’t you backing up your own conviction that the hit which occurred in 2000 still wouldn’t be flagged and fined in 2022.

But it’s not Allen, Mahomes, or Burrow on the receiving end, so your argument is baseless and silly. In fact, I can post the video on another fan’s board, you pick the team. Probably better that way anyway since it’d be entirely neutral. I’ll grant you that advantage of picking whatever team of the 32 you like. The question will be simple: is this a flag for unnecessary roughness if the same hit occurred today? And would #22 on the Bills be fined for the hit? Both conditions will have to be met. Your next post is yes or no and if yes, the team that will receive the post. We can have someone from TBD hold the money so that neither party reneges. Your conviction is that it’s not a penalty or fine in today’s NFL because it’s a legal hit. It’s sad I have to remind you. My conviction is that it is. I don’t care about all your other words talking me to death. Let’s see who waves the white flag…

For the umpteenth time - and maybe this one gets through - THE EJECTED AND ARRESTED QUOTE WAS A JOKE. Never did I even put “suspension” out as a joke either, so it was never in my “initial and unfortunate post.” But I’m not surprised you thought that, seeing as how your comprehension is lacking. People like you shrink behind their convictions if they’re forced to stand on them, so let’s put it to the test. A friendly $100 wager, I’ll put up a post with the Clements hit and have members of TBD vote whether it would warrant a flag and a fine in 2022, today’s NFL. I could also dig into CONTROVERSIAL FINES from this year alone and ask if those warranted flags and fines. If more people think as you do, congrats, there’s a free $100 to you. I can live with the subjectivity of the votes either way. You like to talk, so put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise shut up and take your nonsense to one who won’t force you to stand on your convictions. Deal?

I said Clements would be flagged and fined if the same hit occurred today. NEVER said it was roughing the passer, it would’ve been termed “unnecessary roughness.” Also said the ejected and arrested part was a joke. Do you have reading comprehension problems? Why are you so hung up on roughing the passer fines? When was the argument EVER about RTP? Yes, I’m convinced you have reading comprehension problems. You then proceed to list the amount of fines players incurred during the season about a million dollars worth, and then you say the league isn’t looking too hard to hand out financial penalties for 15 yard infractions. Classic WEO nonsense.

I’m talking about fines coming after bogus penalties, it doesn’t necessarily have to be roughing the passer. Just because the hit wasn’t illegal - just like Cody Ford’s block on that DE in the Houston playoffs - doesn’t mean a fine won’t follow. If there’s a 15 yard infraction the league is looking to hand down financial penalties. In fact, even after upholding Ford’s fine, the league then sent the tape to officials as an illustration of what doesn't constitute a penalty. Go figure. EDIT: Oh and the hit against Brady couldn’t have been called roughing the passer since he was a runner at that point.

I guess you aren’t aware of the fines that follow bogus flags. And despite the player appealing, when it’s obvious an infraction wasn’t committed, the league upholds the fine. “Personal foul, unnecessary roughness on the defense, #22. 15 yard penalty, automatic first down.” A fine would follow Clements after the game, one that he would unsuccessfully appeal.

Flagged and fined. Ejected and arrested was my early morning humor attempt. We’ve seen bogus flags that led to fines and then the NFL doubles down on those fines days after the game rather than admit they were wrong.

Both the Bills and Chiefs rosters would be middling teams without their superstar QBs. But what’s funny to me is that I hear Allen would be going to his 3rd SB (at least) and Mahomes wouldn’t have sniffed one if you simply switched the QBs. There’s a blind, almost irrational loyalty to Allen. I love my QB, but at the same time can admit when another guy is simply better. Not all Bills fans have the capacity to grasp this.

Would’ve at the very least been flagged, I guarantee it. Even if it was legal.

Except the Nate Clements hit that would’ve got him fined, ejected, and arrested in Goodell‘s NFL.