Coach Tuesday

This thread seems to have become personal for you.

Don’t know about anyone else but I am fired up. This season has been a joy.

This is really the nub of it - Beane’s job gets much tougher starting now. Assuming he extends Allen within 18 months, for the next 10-15 years he’ll have to recycle the rest of the roster and play games with the cap. THAT is where good GMs distinguish themselves. Can’t afford to miss on so many draft picks and free agents when cap room becomes incredibly scarce which it is about to do. And that’s why skepticism is warranted, while Beane hit on the most important position he will, as you said, have to become more efficient with his roster decisions if they’re going to achieve sustained success. And oh by the way he’ll have to do that while losing coaches and scouts to promotions elsewhere. His journey is just beginning. That said - extending him was the right move, and it doesn’t count under the cap so what do I care? The Pegulas have shown that they’ll eat a front office salary if expectations aren’t met.

Yup - you knew Josh was “locked in” when he started pointing out penalties mid-play with the ball still in his hand!

Watched the play again. Corner bit on the double move.

The Jets’ coaches are so incompetent that if they really were tanking, they’d win.

Greggo has a folder that says that’s what you do.

Again, they weren’t tanking. They drove downfield for the go-ahead.

Nope. Gregg blitzed on every fourth down and got burned each time. The fact that he has a job is so ... American.

I cannot believe how stupid and arrogant the Jets are. What a ridiculous combination, Gase and Greggo. Maddeningly dumb and incompetent and arrogant.

Longtime Green Bay sports writer and draft enthusiast Bob McGuinn has been writing articles for the Athletic deep-diving into the draft history of certain players. I’ve been reading each one of them and they’re fascinating. This week’s is about Bruce, highly recommend it. Still the best athlete I’ve ever rooted for. I don’t know that the Bills will ever have someone so dominant again. He stands alone. https://theathletic.com/2230162/2020/12/04/bruce-smith-bills-hall-of-fame/?source=user_shared_article “It came down basically to Ray Childress or Bruce Smith,” Polian said. “I remember the discussion very clearly. The question was, what would (Smith) become versus what would Childress become? There was no such word as ceiling in those days. But to apply today’s verbiage to it, Norm’s position was, Childress has a ceiling. He’s not nearly as talented as Bruce, particularly as a rusher. “There was no question that Bruce was the talent that, particularly, Norm had seen. Norm said Bruce would grow up and mature, that he had a much better chance to be a game-changer over time than Ray does. Childress had such a high motor and was in such great shape. Norm’s position was, his talent is so overwhelming, we can work with the other part of it. Rare talent is what you should take. Norm’s wisdom, if you will, in recognizing that this overwhelming talent existed in Bruce’s body correctly carried the day even though Ray had a great career.” ALSO: “It got so he would come back in April and come into my office and say, ‘Do my fat,’” said Jones, who spent 20 years in Buffalo, eight years in Chicago and now is in his third season with Indianapolis. “I’d say to him, ‘Bruce, how ‘bout a hi? Or a how are ya?’ It was always, ‘Do my fat.’ If he wasn’t an 8 on the caliper, he’d be upset. At 265, if you can get a guy in at 13 percent or 14 percent, you’re happy. There’s Bruce hanging out at 8 percent or 9 percent. We see that more and more today than we ever saw before because of nutrition, education, performance coaches. But Bruce Smith was ahead of his time.”

Correct he was flagged. It was just a great play by Bosa and a botched option read by Josh but honestly, you’re in the red zone, call the comfort plays Dabs.

Yes sorry I mean handoff/keeper option. RPO works well in this offense.

Honestly they should drop the RPO from the playbook. Allen almost always keeps so it's not fooling anyone. And he doesn't run it well or with confidence in any event.

Dawkins has been playing in the same spot basically his whole career. He just got a monster extension. There is no excuse for what he put out there against LAC. Granted Bosa is an All Pro but Dawkins’ technique in pass pro was utter garbage. He’s been a solid player this year but he needs to find “playoff-level consistency” in his game. Can’t be having total stinkers like that.

I would say that overall Allen is light years ahead this year in terms of going through his progressions, finding the outlets and taking what the defense gives him. His issue in the past was that if the first read wasn’t there he’d scramble. Lot less of that this year. To my mind his biggest problem is still the “hero ball” - it’s psychological - something or a series of things happens that causes his heart to start pounding and his clock to speed up. Maybe a penalty on him for spinning the ball on an opponent, maybe a relentless pass rush, maybe a drop or a turnover, whatever it is - all of a sudden in his mind he’s back at Wyoming and it’s him and 10 scrubs rushing into battle and he feels like he has to win the game himself on every single play. And for whatever reason, even when it’s one of THOSE games - he still manages to find Serenity Now with 2 minutes left in the fourth quarter. It’s psychological but it’s not an addiction to deep shots, is my point.

Apparently they went hard for DJ Reader and thought they had him in the bag - probably never even crossed their minds that they’d lose him to Cincy (!) - so I’m not sure what we’re seeing isn’t Plan B...

Now THIS is what I call personal growth!

On that last still, I agree he’s lost trust in Knox. Even the TD catch was an adventure for 88 - he’s just a knucklehead. The outlet throw to Moss would’ve put the ball on his right shoulder about a yard from the sideline, likely resulting in a 2 yard gain. Have no issue with Allen’s decision to tuck and run there and he picked up 8.

I guess my takeaway is still where I was at Sunday night - the offensive line lost so many individual matchups, with nearly every play a jailbreak, that Allen’s mental clock sped up and went haywire. I don’t think Sunday’s game was a good evaluation exercise for 17. Dawkins didn’t deserve his game check. Winters shouldn’t be in the league (remind me again why they cut Spain?). Mongo was inconsistent and Williams, Knox and the backs missed their fair share of blocks as well. The protection was horrible.

It was a running play and he bailed, it got totally blown up. The throw to Davis was a prayer.

Second still - deep shot was called. Allen’s eyes are downfield. Dawkins and the RB are responsible for the RDE (guessing it was Bosa again) and the two of them couldn’t sustain a halfway decent block - he’s now up the gut coming right at Allen’s face. Gilliam is not “college open” - you’re woefully misusing the term - there’s a dude right on him and he’s not in Allen’s line of sight, anyhow, because he’s not the read on that play.

I mean, I’ll just comment on the first play - there is no physical way for him to turn and plant his feet to throw to Davis in time. Bosa is that fast and has a yard to cover. Josh is running right with his right shoulder forward and his feet in a running stance. He still has to stop, pivot, bring his right shoulder back behind his body and then throw. Bosa is 3-5 feet away and closing at full speed. At least from that still, Allen was DOA.

Your act is soooooo tired.

Really insightful article by Michael Lombardi in today’s Athletic (subscription required - but honestly if you’re not paying for this content right now you should have your internet shut off). Basically comes down to a completely different approach to winning games (vs. championships). Lombardi is a Brady confidant - you wonder if TB12 fed him some of this - but it strikes me as a correct assessment of the problem. “The best example of this vast difference occurred last Monday night against the Rams. The Bucs had the ball at their 41-yard line, with slightly over two minutes left in the first half, with the game tied at 14. The Bucs faced a third-and-5, on which Brady completed a short pass to Antonio Brown for the first down and the two-minute warning. The Bucs had the ball at midfield, seemingly in control of the half. Coming out of the two-minute warning, Brady philosophically knows he has two objectives. The first would be to score either a touchdown or a field goal. And the second is to not allow the Rams to get the ball back with much time, as they would get the ball to start the second half. Brady has been schooled over the last 19 years on the importance of winning the middle eight (the last four minutes of the first half and first four of the second half).”