Webster Guy

The Bills sat down with the new coaching staff, looked at the situation carefully and came up with a number that they felt Fitz would be worth to the team going forward. Maybe it was $3m like they paid Tjax or Brad Smith, maybe it was less or more, but whatever it was Fitz didn't take it. So he's out. Personally I'd rather take a chance on a new guy that might develop into a stud than continue coasting along with a qb that eeks out 5-7 wins per year and gets you nowhere. This team wants to get younger. They dropped merriman, barnett, kelsay, and wilson right away. I'd rather gamble on new talent and win three games next year but set up a franchise qb draft spot than keep this system we've been treading water in for a dozen years.

exactly. he will command about the same price, more impact for the buck.

I think drafting a QB first round just because we need one is bad business. I see these guys as the Gabbert, Mallet types. We are so freaking depleted at WR and LB on this roster right now, our team is going backwards unless we get a game changer at #8. Please don't reach based on need. We're not strong enough to have the luxury of rolling the dice. These are the types of draft classes where BPA makes sense.

We even had a guy once say that the Patriots made up the Bledsoe "sheared blood vessel in the chest" injury so they could start Brady without all the fan backlash. I can't remember who that poster was but I remember laughing so hard I kinda choked on my diet coke.

Lmao. well said

So you're saying anyone who isn't a starter in the NFL today can't play at a high level in the future? You mean guys like Aaron Rodgers, Steve Young, Brett Favre, and Tom Brady. Drew Brees was a backup to Doug Flutie for most of his rookie year, so does that mean he wasn't good enough to start in this league too?

Exactly. We're thin at the position already, the guy has proven to be valuable and skilled, and he's relatively cheap for his production. I think they'll tender him for sure, he'll win a job at camp no problem. Unless the knee is completely messed up, that is the only reason he isn't back with us next year.

I agree. I figure the Bills at home will always have a 50/50 chance of winning, and I still like watching them play because I know who all the players are and we have some exciting ones to watch out there. Marketing is overrated when it comes to an NFL team with loyal fans. Its like your gas and electric company making a television ad-- uh, sorry but you're a monopoly and I've already accepted that and I don't really care.

Teo in 2012: Heisman Trophy Runner-Up (2012) Lott Trophy (2012) Maxwell Award (2012) Chuck Bednarik Award (2012) Walter Camp Award (2012) Bronko Nagurski Trophy (2012) Butkus Award (2012) Lombardi Award (2012) ARA Sportsmanship Award (2012)[1] Unanimous First Team All-American (2012) Capital One First Team Academic All-American (2012) If this guy is a bust, then either it was a REALLY weak year for LB's in college, or the award system is a complete joke. My personal take on NFL LB's is that they need to have a knack for shedding blocks. I rank this as a distinct #1 characteristic over sideline to sideline stuff, speed, hitting--even instincts. The NFL differs from college in that you ALWAYS have a body on you. A professional blocker whose only job is to slow you down enough to keep you from making the play. In a lot of cases its a 300 pounder with the same athletic ability as you but arms that are a foot longer and 30% stronger than yours. (see the Bama game for example) Shedding blocks is what inhibits guys like Shep from being good NFL linebackers, and from what I saw of Teo, he needs a lot of work in that area. Not sure if you can teach it though. Some dudes never get past it and are out of the league or relegated to special teams and backups their entire careers because of it. Time will tell. I don't want the guy on our team, that's for sure.

I appreciate the example (Marinovich? forgot about that guy) Maybe we should get a qb from Ole Miss, that's where Eli went, and he's got a few rings. I think QB history from a certain college is like that meaningless stat the networks love to run about previous meeting between two teams ("Well the Bills have NEVER beaten the Dolphins on a Monday night.....and then they show stats back 30 years when the current players weren't even born yet) The best way to get a QB is to have good luck and draft one that hopefully works out. There are more number one overall draft picks that have failed in the NFL than have made it. A LOT more. Brees went 31st, Rodgers 24th, Flacco 18th, Brady 200 and something, Kapernick 36th, Russel Wilson 75th etc etc. These are among the best QB's in the game. Lots of great talent evaluators--the best in the world-- miss over and over again, year in and year out. It's mostly luck. We need to keep rolling the dice and eventually we'll get one, but it's not going to be because of some genius in the scouting department, it's going to be because our number finally comes up.

Cutting someone like Kelsay only makes sense if he says no to a restructure and if you think he can't make the team in camp over a rookie LDE. They aren't going to invest any more money in that position with Anderson and Mario getting paid heavy money, so unless we draft someone better in the late rounds (which rarely pans out), I think Kelsay is still good enough to make the team and worth having on board for a reasonable salary. He seems like a smart guy, he knows nobody is going to sign him for big money and he's obviously banked enough to not worry about cash the rest of his life anyway. Kelsay is long time Buffalo guy with a family that likes it here. The reason he's not released is because he either hasn't been approached by the front office with a restructured deal or he's already agreed to a modification and it is being hashed out. If he doesn't do well in camp he gets cut and probably retires. Our front office is done with putting any more resources into the Dline. We're focused on LB's and Corners on defense, receivers and QB's on offense.

Dalton is a multi year pro bowl QB already. Threw more TD's this year than Eli, Big Ben, Russel Wilson to name a few and that's with a sketchy O-line and a lukewarm running attack. Led a loser squad to the playoffs twice. If Nassib=Andy Dalton we would take him in a heartbeat. I know he sucked in the playoff game against the Texans, but they just couldn't stop Houston's pass rush, like most teams in the league.

Farewell Terrence, you were a great player for us. Way to represent for a decade in the NFL after going in the 4th round. For a short while there he was the most dangerous kickoff return man in the world.

I noticed some college draft guys had Aaron Williams playing safety in the NFL when they were analyzing him for the mock drafts two years ago. I have always wondered about that myself. The dude is a great hitter, he just struggles in coverage. Searcy will likely be our starting SS this season now that Wilson is gone, and obviously Byrd will be the free safety if he's retained, but what about putting a few pounds of muscle on Aaron (he's listed at 200lb) and getting him in a position to backup at either FS or SS? Gilmore, Rogers, Brooks and Mckelvin likely start at corner next year anyway. I'd like to see us utilize Williams better, he was an absolute stud in college. Maybe we just put him in the wrong position from the beginning.

I looked at a few 2011 mocks and they had Kap going mid 2nd round. Too bad we didn't use the Marv method, which was just draft the guy you want if you like him and he's sitting there, regardless of whether or not he's likely to fall to later rounds.

Amazing how two seasons ago George Wilson AND Nick Barnett were playing high level ball, and all of the sudden last season they just expired.

He had a really bad superbowl, I feel sorry for the guy. He got embarrassed out there. He's still a great hitter though, and plays the run well for a SS. The problem for Whit (and a lot of strong safeties) is coverage. He's not good at it, and if you're an OC and watch enough film on the guy you know how to get him matched up against your slot guy or TE, they're open all day.

Maybe all his little nagging injuries could be prevented or minimized by a year round conditioning program. I'm sure any NFL strength and conditioning coach would think so. If he wants to have a long NFL career he'll need to be more disciplined. By the way Stevie, a 1000 yard season is averaging 62 yards per game. I'm not minimizing what you've done, but push yourself a little more dude.

I love to hear when the guys that deserve it and work hard to produce get the extra cash. Careers go fast in the NFL, the IRS is there getting about half of what they make and most athletes don't have much to show for it in ten years. The thing that I laugh at is that we paid a million more to Tarvaris Jackson than Spiller this year, and we never even activated the guy. Same goes for Brad Smith, out earning CJ and Freddy. I understand you have to have roster depth, but there are some serious inequities in compensation on this team.

Totally agree. The red helmets and red endzones are awesome. White is so lame. Look how good that red bills hat looks in the Bud Light Superstition commercial. If it where white it they wouldn't have looked half as good.

God I wish that were true. I think very few things are correctable, that a player either has an inherent knack for split second decision making, sensing pressure, pocket mobility, when its a throw/no throw/scramble/checkdown decision, stuff like that. Some things like pre-snap reads and footwork would be correctable hopefully, but I still think you are flipping the coin every time you draft a QB. There are still the Harrington, David Carr, Leftwitch, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, Jason Campbell, JaMarcus type dudes that everyone looked at as having correctable problems but never had the unteachable knack for the position in the NFL.

Its what my english teacher used to call a weasel phrase. It can be remedied only by someone's spouse or very close friend because the way to break it is to have the person interrupt you EVERY time you say "ya know" and say "NO, I DONT KNOW". Its super annoying and can only be tolerated by someone in private that you really care about otherwise you'll want to kill them. But it works. My best friend got me to stop saying ALLS (as in all's I know is we better make the playoffs) by interrupting me every time. Once the weasel word or phrase is pointed out it makes you conscious of how often you say it and the brain does the rest. President Kennedy reportedly had his chief of staff interrupt him every time he said ahhhhhh in between thoughts when he spoke (a la Obama, Dole etc) I guess it worked.

He reminds me of Michael Floyd. You know, the guy that barely broke 500 yards this year for the Cards, and had ONE legit touchdown all season. (his second one was a hail mary in garbage time) I was secretly hoping the Bills would take that guy. He looked like a surefire pro in college. I'm afraid of drafting wideouts now.

I say if FItz takes a restructure then keep the dude. He made enough money already in guaranteed cash, he has a family that likes Buffalo and he's not going to be anything but a backup anywhere else, so why not be a backup for us?

funny how Beebe gets up and looks back to see who the hell just caught him from behind. He's obviously not used to that happening.