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Have you guys already forgotten when Kiko rescued Tedi Bruschi while Bruschi was rescuing a kitten from a burning building during halftime... just weeks after Kiko's ACL surgery... while frying up chicken wings for disadvantaged youths? Don't talk bad on Kiko.

Hmmm... your reply is a bit too oblique for me. Can you dumb it down for my benefit? Thanks.

It would be a sad day if The Athletic folded tent. In the post-newspaper era they employ many of the good professionals and former beat writers that have been displaced by the demise of print media. There are many good writers and reporters whose careers have been propped back up by The Athletic. One problem for The Athletic is that this country (and the whole world perhaps?) is less literate than I can ever recall. There are many people who don't value or even recognize good journalism. I'm in that disappearing group of people who prefer to read about stuff as opposed to watching or listening to a talking head (there are a few exceptions). As far as Joe Buscaglia, he is a hard-working and conscientious guy. I appreciate his diligence. I don't think you could ever call Joe lazy so to me that's the main thing. Beyond that he's a decent enough writer and has enough knowledge to justify his position. He might not be the best reporter covering the Bills but he's far from the worst.

In this seminal Golden Era of QBs, there's gonna be more than just those three.

I agree Augie. I think sports maybe more than any other field has moved the needle a bit more in the direction of color blindness. That said, there's still so much hate and intolerance out there that even though there definitely has been progress, it sometimes feels like no progress has been made at all.

There was a biographical movie project in the works for Marlin but somehow over the years the project stalled. I definitely feel like history does not appreciate his contributions and that the era he played in pigeon-holed his career.

Briscoe and Moses were both excellent. Haven Moses made 2 Pro Bowls immediately after being traded away by the Bills. He's on the Broncos Wall of Fame. Briscoe made his Pro Bowl after being traded by the Bills to Miami where he contributed to 2 Super Bowl wins. The years after the mid-1960s AFL Championships were dark days indeed for Bills fans.

In 1998 the Bills needed to sell $11 million in luxury seating (suites and club seating) in order to trigger an extension of the lease until 2006 (?) and also stadium renovations. That summer a business consortium called "Business Backs the Bills" was formed to market and sell the seating. The problem was the Bills started out 1-3 under QB Rob Johnson and the luxury seating was not moving. No one was buying a losing product. Then in week 5 against the Colts, Johnson suffered a rib injury in the first quarter and Doug Flutie came in and led the the Bills to victory, scoring 21 2nd half points. The Bills went 9-3 the rest of the way and with Flutie Mania intoxicating the community the luxury seating started selling like hotcakes. Would the Bills have sold the luxury seating with a 4-12 team?

I think it's hard to talk about Marlin Briscoe without talking about his teammate James Harris and the parallels in their careers as they struggled as black quarterbacks during the racially tumultuous 1960s. Central figures in this story include OJ Simpson, Lou Saban, Jack Kemp, Chuck Knox, Tom Flores, and others. Consider (with help from Wiki): Marlin Briscoe: Drafted by the Denver Broncos in 1968. On October 6th became the first black QB to start a game in the AFL and in the modern era of pro football. Briscoe threw 14 touchdown passes that year in just 5 starts, including 4 on Nov 24 against Buffalo; both are still Broncos rookie records. He also threw for 335 yards in that game, a rookie record that stood until John Elway broke it in 1983, and one of only three 300+ yard rookie games in franchise history. Before the 1969 season started, Briscoe, still determined to play quarterback, discovered that Denver head coach Lou Saban intended to use Pete Liske as the starter, so he asked to be released. He went to the AFL's Buffalo Bills where he was turned into a receiver, since the Bills already had superstar Jack Kemp, former Pro Bowler Tom Flores, and James Harris, another black quarterback with a more prototypical 6-foot-4 and 210-pound frame. Briscoe never played quarterback again, but he enjoyed a splendid career. He led Buffalo in touchdown catches in each of his three seasons there and in receptions twice. In 1970 he was in the top two in receptions and receiving yards and became an All-Pro. After the AFL-NFL merger, he played in the National Football League from 1970 though 1976, mostly with American Football Conference teams. In 1971, the Bills traded Briscoe to the Miami Dolphins for the first-round draft pick used to take Joe Delamiellure, who developed as a Hall of Fame guard. Briscoe went on to win a pair of Super Bowls. Briscoe led the undefeated 1972 team with four touchdown receptions and was the leading receiver on the Dolphins in 1973, catching more passes than future Pro Football Hall of Famer, Paul Warfield. A biopic titled The Magician, based on Briscoe's life, has been under development for several years. Canadian actor Lyriq Bent has been approached to portray Briscoe in the film. In 2016, the University of Nebraska Omaha, Briscoe's alma mater, honored him by unveiling a statue. James Harris: In 1969 Harris was drafted in the eighth round of the Common Draft by the American Football League’s Buffalo Bills, and would soon join fellow rookie O.J. Simpson in the starting backfield. On September 14, 1969 the Bills made Harris the first black player to start a season at quarterback in the history of pro football. Harris was also just the second black player in the modern era to start in any game as quarterback for a professional football team. Wide receiver Marlin Briscoe, of the AFL's Denver Broncos, had been the first to start a game at quarterback in 1968, and a few of Harris's completions in 1969 went to Briscoe, who, by that time, had been traded to the Bills and had been converted to the position of receiver. In 1973, Harris was the understudy to veteran John Hadl as the Rams went 12-2 and returned to the playoffs for the first time since 1969. As the 1974 season began, the Rams offense sputtered under Hadl and the team stood at 3-2 after five games. In an effort to spark the Los Angeles offense, Rams head coach Chuck Knox promoted Harris as the starting quarterback. In his starting debut for the Rams against the San Francisco 49ers, Harris completed 12 of 15 passes for 276 yards and three touchdowns and rushed for another as the Rams won easily, 37-14, at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The performance earned Harris a perfect passer rating for the game. Two days later, Hadl was then traded to Green Bay, and Harris became the Rams' first-string quarterback for the remainder of the 1974 season. The football world was stunned by the bold move. However, Harris came through by leading the team to seven wins in its last nine regular-season games. He led the team to its second straight NFC Western Division title, which was also their first playoff victory (19-10 over the Washington Redskins) since 1951. Harris thus became the first African-American quarterback to start and win an NFL playoff game. The Rams lost the NFC Championship Game to the Minnesota Vikings 14-10. Harris was named to the NFC Pro Bowl team in 1974 and was awarded MVP of that game. The strong-armed Harris helped lead the team to another division title in 1975. Harris, in turn, became the first African-American to open a season as his team's starting quarterback in National Football League history. "As a quarterback, I had done all I could, more than most people could, but it still wasn't enough for the Los Angeles Rams organization to accept me as a quarterback, not a black quarterback," he commented. At the time of his departure, Harris held the highest career completion average of any quarterback in Rams team history (55.4%) and had been an integral part of three straight NFC West Champions. Harris was deeply upset by his trade from a perennial playoff team to a team in rebuilding mode and also by losing his status as a starting quarterback. Nonetheless, Harris maintained a good relationship with Chuck Knox until the latter's death in 2018. Harris served as the Baltimore Ravens Director of Pro Personnel from 1997 to 2003. During his tenure, the Ravens won Super Bowl XXXV. In 2003, Harris left the Ravens organization and went on to serve as the Vice President of Player Personnel for the Jacksonville Jaguars, resigning on December 23, 2008. He also served on the NFL subcommittee on college relations. On February 2, 2009, the Detroit Free Press reported that the Detroit Lions were set to hire Harris as a personnel executive. On February 12, 2009, the Detroit Lions officially named Harris as Senior Personnel Executive. Lions General Manager Martin Mayhew has a long history with Harris, and indicated he was the only individual who was offered the job. Harris assisted in all areas of player personnel in an advisory role. He is no longer employed by the NFL. He officially "retired from the NFL" on February 27, 2015.

On today's Bills? No one. Though both are finesse receivers Briscoe was more of a deep threat and field stretcher than McKenzie. He had really large hands too and could make the one handed grab. IMO Briscoe was pretty similar to Jerry Butler (Bills 1979-86), a brilliant finesse receiver who had an injury-shortened career.

I would ask Punch Imlach. He would know.

Mike Williams' feet are asking who you're calling "little."

🤣 J _ _ _ _ E _ _ I _ _ _ A _ Seems like you have ice on the brain. Do you live in an igloo?

Thank you for your opinion regarding my opinion.

Here's what I've found out so far regarding attendees: https://jaguarswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/05/josh-allen-among-several-edge-defenders-to-join-von-millers-2022-pass-rush-summit/ "This year’s group of participants included other notables like Chandler Jones, Cam Jordan, Maxx Crosby, and former Jags lineman Calais Campbell, to name a few. Some rookies attended like George Karlaftis, and some college prospects showed up as well." There's also a group photo in the article for those who know the players by face. It looks like there were about 30 guys in the photo. "But there were also two of the Kansas City Chiefs’ youngest pass-rushers in attendance. Pick No. 30 overall in the 2022 NFL draft, George Karlaftis, participated in the event. Former fourth-round draft pick, Joshua Kaindoh, was also among the players in attendance for the event. You can spot them both in the picture below:" https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/05/kansas-city-chiefs-george-karlaftis-joshua-kaindoh-von-miller-pass-rush-summit/ "(Jaguars Josh) Allen attended the summit with former Jaguars' defensive lineman Calais Campbell and other top pass-rushers, such as Chandler Jones, Melvin Ingram, Justin Houston, Maxx Crosby, Cam Jordan, and Jeffrey Simmons, along with rookies such as George Karlaftis and legends like Demarcus Ware." https://www.si.com/nfl/jaguars/news/jaguars-josh-allen-von-miller-pass-rush-summit-vegas

Your powers of critical thinking are really impressive!

That said I'm ambivalent about all these TE University and Pass Rusher Summit and the like. How would a Chiefs fan feel if Dawson Knox was the hero of the winning OT for the Bills last year? I'm probably not alone about having misgivings about these things. I believe a lot of NFL front office guys aren't good with their star player sharing trade secrets with the enemy. I'm not crazy about our prize pass rusher voluntarily improving our opponents' pass rushers.

Actually apologies to you and Gunner. I posted that late last night and was gonna chase it with a "just kidding." Unfortunately I fell asleep before that happened. I honestly have no idea if Jaelen Phillips is even there.

Apparently Jaelen Phillips has been the star of the summit so far.

It's hard to say how meaningful Miller's interest in the Cowboys was. If Miller reached out to the Cowboys as DeMarcus Ware states, that tells me that winning a championship was not his first criteria. As mentioned, Miller grew up in suburban Dallas and played college at Texas A&M, less than an hour from his hometown of DeSoto. The question is "Would Miller have preferred to sign with his hometown team if they offered the same money as the Bills?"

"Neighbors described him as being quiet and reserved."

Who were we talking about again?

Boater, check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Pardee John Perry Pardee (April 19, 1936 – April 1, 2013) was an American football linebacker and the only head coach to helm a team in college football, the National Football League (NFL), the United States Football League (USFL), the World Football League (WFL), and the Canadian Football League (CFL). Pardee was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame as a player in 1986.

I'm very curious to see if Tua can conclusively prove that he's better than Jalen Hurts.