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In our base defense we start 3 corners. Taron is the the nickel corner we still need two starters on the outside. Is this really not common knowledge? Edit: I apologize, read this too quickly, missed that you said draft "two" corners high. Yes, that may be unnecessary, although you could always see who pans out better and trade the other. Plus, statically speaking it is far more likely that only one, rather than both, would turn out as a good pro so if you the highest player on the board is a CB at both in both 1st and 2nd round you still take them both. Assuming we don't sign any vet FA, we absolutely must hit on a corner that can play right away early in this draft. Huh?? Taron just signed an extension last year through 2024 where he is getting avg of $8 mil per year. We could get out after 2022 but would cary a $5mil dead cap, which won't happen. Bills coaches and FO have made it very clear they view him as a long term nickel starter, key piece of the defense etc.. We prioritized extending him, arguable over other key defensive pieces too. Bills paid Levi Wallace less than $2mill last year but Taron got $8mil per, that should show you how highly they view him. He isn't going anywhere.

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Right but remember we were tinkering with the OL combos all season (and last season too). Bates looked really solid at LG in between Dawkins and Morse the last few games, but with Saffold coming in he would have likely moved to RG anyway, which presents some unknowns. In previous years Bates has looked like a solid backup material at best. You can get away with one below average starter on the OL, and who knows we may be able to find a cheaper vet replacement at RG or a rookie to compete with ford (or both). That's why I'm not too concerned. Not saying OL isn't important, I just don't think Bates was that valuable to begin with. I'd rather spend the money on a vet #2 corner.

They can't trade him he's not currently under contract, the Bills have to match or they get nothing. Don't even waste your time hoping. Pats have PLENTY of cap room and holes all over the o line, including both starting guard spots. They will offer him prob close to $5mill per year knowing the Bills can't quite squeeze that.

Damn, Bates is gone. Pats have plenty of cap space and just lost/traded away both their starting guards. Minnesota didn't have a lot of room wasn't as worried there, but NE will make an offer Bills can't match. Oh well, not too concerned. We have Saffold at LG, and then it will be between Ford/rookie for the RG spot.

I don't have anything against Klein, he is a great run stopper and serviceable starter on a team that plays a base of 3 linebackers, but this signing means Klein is likely going to be cut. With our nickle base, we can't afford to pay Klein over $5mill this year to a backup, and now with Dodson being signed it secures our depth with a younger, cheaper player that also can play special teams. Can't see how we keep Klein now unless he takes a huge pay cut.

I agree with you on Gase for sure but actually I thought O'Brien was pretty good as a head coach. What he was able to do in Houston even before they had Watson was impressive. Where he went wrong was in his GM capacity, made some awful, awful decisions roster wise. Wouldn't surprise me if he had success as a head coach again if given an opportunity and working with an empowered, competent GM.

Good thoughts here, I tend to agree. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Bills promoted Dorsey to OC and then pursued Sean Ryan for a lateral move for Quarterbacks coach. Yes it's a lateral move, but let's face it, unless either (i) Watson is traded to Carolina, or (ii) Sean Ryan is promoted to OC in Carolina, don't think Ryan would pass up the chance to work with Allen and reset his career. Much better gig. Of course, Carolina could try to block that as a lateral hire.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/18/adrian-phillips-doesnt-see-huge-gap-between-bills-and-patriots/ Like many Pats fans I know, complete delusion.

Mitch is one a one year deal. If he goes who cares? He's not a threat to the Bills anywhere. Our backup qb for 2022 won't matter, and if it does we won't win the SB. The Daboll threads are relevant to this week's playoff game (could even be a distraction for him this week game prep) and is current news, Mitch or whoever the backup qb is for 2022 won't affect anything and is nothing but unimportant speculation. Now, not saying it wouldn't be a fun topic for this offseason, but at this critical time approaching wildcard weekend just think it's an odd focus.

No offense to the OP but we have a playoff run to worry about, odd time for this topic. Nobody knows if Mitch will stay, he very well might. Frankly, who cares?! We just locked up Josh freaking Allen for 8 more years! who cares who holds the clipboard. IF JA get hurt, it won't matter much who backs up because even if they are great we still aren't winning the Super Bowl without JA.

I would love to say it was a "dirty" play but it just wasn't. Sorry nothing really to see here. He clearly was holding his foot trying to prevent him from getting to the ball. There was no intent to injure. Annoying, bitchy? Sure. But dirty? No, he wasn't trying to hurt the guy just hold on for dear life after fumbling the ball.

Good to see from Davis, he hasn't always come across as the most dialed in in interviews in the past (which was understandable for a wide eyed rookie). He looked noticeably sharp in preseason/camp, more polished on his routes. I think we will see a lot of 4 WR sets this year (even more than last year) with Diggs/Davis on the boundaries, and Beasley/Sanders in either slot. How do you stop that?! That's not even counting for Mckenzie. Cannot wait. Spot the ball!

Appreciate all the work done here at TBD by the mods/admins. Question though, are "points" solely just based on the number of posts without reference to the substance of the posts? Any extra points for threads started vs. mere response? Not saying there is an easy way to objectively quantify that, just a curious question from a long time reader, but only very recent poster. Go Bills!

I'm not going to quote them all but there are 7-8 separate posts about not liking the trade or hoping for little more since the first page. Go read the thread. Also, look further down, people are still saying it...

For everyone saying Beane should have gotten more value for the trade, consider Shaq Lawson was just traded for a 6th... Johnson has some upside but he's not as good as Lawson. We would have had to cut him anyways, and teams know this, and we got the HIGHER of Carolina's two 6ths. Good trade getting something out of excess that would have been cut, now let's get a couple more in before cuts tomorrow!

Sorry but I don't really see it, I think its a reach. The Knicks are a storied franchise who only very recently had trouble recruiting star players, Buffalo has never been a destination market. The Bills went to the AFC Championship game, the Knicks made the playoffs in a league were even below average team make the playoffs. Yes, the Knicks are on the rise and I think they have set themselves up nice for the future, but they are without question on the outside looking in when you talk about contending for a championship. There are probably 7-8 other NBA teams that have a significantly better shot at winning it all these next few years. The Knicks lack elite star power. If you did a league wide franchise fantasy draft in the NFL, Allen goes 1 or 2 no question. The Knicks have a few really nice players but nobody that truly scares you. Just don't see much of a parallel, maybe besides fan loyalty during the drought.

I would love to see it as well. That's why I asked for help in the OP, I don't have the subscription!

Very curious to see where the Bills stand here if someone with and ESPN+ subscription can enlighten! Thanks in advance. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31812492/nfl-future-power-rankings-2021-projections-all-32-teams-next-three-seasons

Wide right and music city forward lateral are hard to argue against. The one that sticks out to me though as epitomizing the entire the Bills fortunes as a franchise is that Terrance McGee kick return against the Saints. It was probably the most impressive return in NFL history, only to fall short of the goal line to end the half with all those blockers around. I just stared at the screen for 20 minutes after, couldn't even move or speak. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiU-raWgu3wAhVKQzABHSX2BqUQwqsBMAB6BAgEEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGlKJc_CLRpc&usg=AOvVaw3GhT9TfxQGS6f53RQb9DaA

Don't need him swoll, need him to shave off a tenth on his 40!!

Fair analysis. I went to Clemson so I am not neutral in this, but even still I am reluctant for Clemson players to end up in Buffalo now in fear they don't work out and it ends up a being a double disappoint for me. It's actually funny because among Clemson fans, nobody wants the top Clemson players to go to Buffalo. They consider Buffalo the place where good Clemson players go to die! Despite this, I would be beyond excited if the Bills were able to get Etienne at 30. Watched him play every game the last 4 years, he is a threat every time he touches the ball, could put our offense over the top. Jury is still out on a lot of Clemson's high draft picks, as many were in the last 2-3 years. You have to remember that they have been really good for 10 years or so but really just started recruiting and competing at an elite level in the last 5 years. A few names I haven't seen mentioned in this thread though; DeAndre Hopkins was a home run pick for Houston, so was Deshaun Watson prior to these shocking legal developments. Dexter Lawrence and Christian Wilkins are doing well with NYG and Dolphins. Tee Higgins looked great for the Bengals last year. Vick Beasley had his moments in the league. McKensie Alexander has been a solid corner for a 2nd rounder, started a number of years in Minnesota. Jury is still out on first round picks AJ Terrell, Mike Williams, Isaiah Simmons, arguably Clelin Ferrel (although he was not worth the 4th pick in the draft). I'm still missing quite a few. There will be a lot more high round draft picks from Clemson in the next few years as well, particularly at QB, RB, WR and Dline.

If a deal gets done this offseason it's going to be much longer than 4 years. I would think Beane and co are shooting for something similar to the Mahomes deal, and would push for 7-10 years. It's the only way to get Allen his worth while spreading it out enough to create needed cap flexibility. The Cowboys deal with Dak looks absurd next to the team friendly/flexible deal the chiefs did with Mahomes. A 4 year deal would be terrible for the Bills from a cap/roster management perspective. I don't think Allen wants that either, he wants to play for the Bills for a long time and he wants them to be competitive roster wise.

Saw this post on the Raven's message board regarding scouting report of the Bills from Raven's fan perspective. Thought it was interesting and worth sharing. I could nitpick a couple things but overall his analysis is tough to disagree with. He made some great points, but hopefully JA transcends all and puts the Bills on his back again this week! "With Moss out the bad running game of the Bills is really bad. Singletary is really only effective when there are holes so job one is to plug those holes up. The Ravens have been very good at doing that this year. The biggest running threat is going to Josh Allen who is very dangerous especially in the red zone. Allen is 3rd on the team in rushing yards and has 8 rushing TDs. Without that other big rushing threat I would use a similar plan that we used against the Titans only keying on Allen as the rusher instead of Henry. This is how other teams have attacked Lamar this year and it works until Gus or Dobbins start going up the middle and blowing up those guys waiting on the edge. Singletary isn't Dobbins or Gus. They will be able to limit those bigs runs by Allen. The Bills are going to be respond by throwing the ball. Allen has 7 games this year with 40+ passing attempts. In 2019 he had just 1. Allen is very comfortable passing and will start throwing down field. The Ravens have the DBs to handle even when blitzing. The Bills in general use a layered system of Diggs and Brown deeper, Davis in the middle depth, Beasley and Knox underneath. Everyone of them can catch and they use the whole width of the field. I think we all saw Allen fit perfect balls on the sideline to Davis at the end of half last week. It was textbook. Don't focus on pushing Allen into tough throws. Instead focus on making the receivers make tough catches. Play tight and hit hard. Diggs had the best season in the league this side of Devante Adams. He's going to make some catches. Make him pay on every single one. 8 catches for under 80 yards would be a big win against Diggs. On the other side of the ball the Ravens just need to continue to do what they do. The Bills allowed 21 rushing touchdowns this year which is 27th in the NFL this year. They are 26th in yards allowed per attempt. Pound the ball in the red zone. They are middle of the road against the pass and rank 9th in both TDs and yards be attempt and 7th in getting interceptions. Running the ball just makes a ton of sense. Both the Ravens and Bills are +4 in turnover margin so both understand the importance of turnovers. Bass has been a really good Kicker in the clutch but no one is on the level of Justin Tucker. The Bills punter has a great leg. Kicking and punting will be about mistakes since both teams are really among the NFL elite in those areas. It should be a good game but I really like this matchup for the Ravens. As good as the Bills have been I really see this as favorable for the Ravens." https://forum.russellstreetreport.com/showthread.php?207004-Keys-to-beating-the-Bills&s=5e4430fa0dd03ad736b8d386a8da5aba

Congrats to you OSU fans. I have to admit I knew this type of outcome was possible but I was very confident Clemson would win in a close one. They beat the crap out of my tigers. Revenge factor was real. Fields was lights out, whole team put it together. Hard game to swallow for me, but I'm sure this won't be the last time these two teams square of. Go win it all and go Bills!