Buffalo Junction

I’m not so sure. He used Heath Miller effectively in Pittsburgh.

Joe Buck makes it hell. The guy announces games like he’s describing Tiger putt at the open.

I imagine they are, especially against Brady and other veteran QBs who will just get the ball out or throw it away. More likely they’re disregarding the splash plays because they aren’t on sports center. Picking of Brady in the end zone is big, White grabbing two picks in a game, etc. This D is making plays and getting turnovers when the opportunities present themselves... There are just fewer opportunities when your not in shootouts and your forcing 3&outs on 1/3 of the drives.

These kids are five games into their rookie seasons. It’s way to early to tell who is going to fizzle out and who’s going to develop. Ford can definitely lose 15 pounds in the off season while improving his strength and technique. The book isn’t written yet... Heck, this same thread might get made later about Mecole or Hakeem Butler, and people will complain saying it should have been included in the Isabella “I told you so” thread. We should also keep in mind that most of Beane’s O-Line signings were 1-2 year deals. If Ford ends up being a dominant guard that’s a fine use of a 2nd round pick, especially when we’ll need guard depth in 2020-21. Ford will start at guard and be able to flex to RT if there’s an injury. Starting quality guards have always had 2nd round value, and a lot of teams take shots on possible OTs with guard floors in the round. No need to second guess the pick yet, IMO. There were four holes on the O-line, and they’re all patched. It’ll get sorted out in a more satisfactory manner now that this team can add to talent that’s already on the roster.

And they’re referring to turnovers which tend to fluctuate quite a bit. They also occur more frequently in games where one team has to press aggressively to stay in it (young QBs aside) just like sacks. Plus Brady and Mariota aren’t turnover prone, and Eli just freezes, spikes it, or takes the sack. The turnovers will come when we get young or over confident QBs that try to force a ball into coverages they didn’t recognize. We have plenty of those QBs Post bye.... Rosen, Mayfield, Jackson, Keenam/McCoy/Haskins, Rudolph, and Wentz can definitely attempt hero ball.

Just us. We’re definitely the only ones. Probably should have taken him in the 1st instead of Oliver.

That a judgement I never make until mid-late November.

Agree. Because of that defense I’d add that if Allen makes a post injury performance jump similar to last year this team is capable of a deep playoff run. It was also Wade Phillips vs Billy Boy containing those offenses.

I think folks are confusing elite in a season with all time elite. This defense is not the 85 bears, but they’re a top 5 unit. This year they are elite.

Partly, but to be fair all of those teams have encountered a few excellent D-lines and front 7s. Not just us. They’re bad lines, but have multiple games against top front 7’s and D-lines might make a few look worse than they are. Bengals for instance: Bills, Seahawks, 49ers; Jets got Bills, Pats, and Eagles. Bengals have a shot to improve once injuries heal and that new offense gets easier.

Guess bills uniforms give him clammy palm and cold sweats.

Diggs is the only player I’d want them to give up a large asset for. He’s a healthy talent upgrade, will help Allen develop, under contract, and would fit into long term plans. One year rentals of aging and injured players often don’t pan out. Diggs would be more like the Dallas move for Cooper. All that said, this teams talent philosophy appears to be “eliminate weaknesses” over “stack talent”. We’re seeing that play out now. A pro bowler at WR or DE could push us into elite, but it won’t matter if Allen doesn’t improve. Beane and McD are building a roster that doesn’t lose, and will be in the hunt every year with good QB play... it’s a sustainable model assuming Allen keeps improving.

Snyder is the definition of a wildcard. If that guy decides he wants Daboll and no one else... brinks truck, begging.... full court press. I hope Daboll considers the dysfunction and perhaps has a chat with Pettine.

I honestly don’t want T Williams for a high draft pick. IMO Dawkins hasn’t been great, but he’s average, available, and cheap.... which is better than expensive and injured. I’d be more interested in Williams if Dawkins performed well at RT and was now underperforming at LT. My comment was slightly facetious. However, it was based on multiple articles that insinuate he’s trying to get the medical staff and policies overhauled in Washington. Obviously, I have no clue if there’s truth to this, but it’s interesting at the least. It’s particularly intriguing because not only does buffalo have one of the better med/training staffs and facilities in the league now, but McD also has a reputation for caring about his players. It’s entirely possible that Williams has just had it with the Skins organization and now doesn’t want to jump on a sinking ship. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2019/8/1/20749916/the-trent-williams-situation-its-not-a-contract-thing

Nope. IIRC, the holdout started over issues with the medical staff, and when the Skins didn’t budge shifted to money, etc too.

Time to get a #85 jersey with a “human being” name tag.

If it’s 2018 Gordon. Every other year he’s averaged less than 4 yards a carry. I agree that he’d improve the passing offense since defenses couldn’t key on run/pass with Gordon or Singletary in the game.

If Gore or Singletary are out for the season and we need to retool... you’re absolutely correct. It comes down to cost. I’d be happy if they picked him up for a 3rd round pick. Anything more and my inner skeptic will come out to play.... for example... My concern with Gorden is that as good as he is, he’s playing in Lynn’s system with Rivers as the QB. It’s extremely RB friendly. I’m not certain that he’d be as good in B-Lo.

This. Just this. https://youtu.be/uLr0v9MyGgM

I think there will be a bunch of talk and clamor over the Browns game. Dallas is the big show though, and it’ll be really hyped if we beat the Eagles. As far as the Allen narrative is concerned... If he outplays Mayfield and Jackson in head to head matchups, and we beat Dallas in front of the country he will get recognition. The whole team will. Sad reality is this team could manage 13-3 and still lose the AFC East.

The fantasy aspect is likely a big contributing factor towards the lack of coverage. We simply don’t have any must draft players on offense.

Unless they’re holding out because their team has no process.

But none of the windows open.

And even if they don’t retire they’ll likely prefer to stay at a reasonable price if McBeane wants them.

One thing that folks seem to forget is that this offense, like the Pats, is built to bring back concepts and schemes from previous games/matchups. I believe we’ll start to see that by the end of the year or early next year. It’s one of the reasons why the Pats can adjust so quickly on offense when opposing defenses make changes. Allen needs to improve and gain experience for that to start happening though. At this point in his development it’s completely unfair to compare Allen/Daboll to Brady/McDaniels, especially when we have so many new players.