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Of course, that's all relative--or was that the point? I used to think anyone past their 20's was ancient news, and now I just passed by the big 40, and am making up reasons everyday why I'm still a young whippersnapper. Of course, getting out of bed in the morning reminds me exactly of why I'm not. Anyone else here have foot pain for like the first 10 minutes?

I think it's probably based on more than just being an ex-part of the drought coaching tree here. Bountygate (as others have already mentioned) and reports of his being an unmitigated personality fail come to mind as well. But I readily admit I never met the guy personally so the last part is hearsay only.

Great link again Yolo. I absolutely would not want to sign either of these guys to a monster deal. Are they better than what we've trotted out for much of the year outside of Allen? Sure. But that's not the question. Just good enough to avoid a straight up QB housecleaning, but most certainly not good enough to take you to the promised land on their shoulders, which is the ultimate goal (or should be) of any FO. Would you also add someone like Matthew Stafford to this mix?

@dollars 2 donuts, again, if it were within my power to bestow both a "haha" and a Lombardi trophy, I would do it. Congrats, post of the day!

As would any other franchise in the league too, right? Again, not a true comparison though, since they were drafted in different years. Let's see, the Bills picked Tony Hunter (who?), a TE from Notre Dame with the #12 pick in the 1983 draft, and drafted Jim Kelly #14. With the benefit of hindsight, maybe the Bills would've snapped Jimbo up at #12 first, to ensure that the Lions, or anyone trading picks with the Lions at #13, couldn't grab him? Or should we also rehash Tom Brady's infamous slide down the draft boards, making every single team in the league look silly, including the Pats, until they took a flyer on him towards the end of the draft? Isn't that an even more egregious example than Mahomes?

Well, considering that Mahomes and Allen weren't even in the same draft and the Bills could not have come even close to completing their pre-draft evaluation work on Allen, it's not an either Mahomes or Allen question straight up, right? The premise/byline of the article becomes somewhat misleading then, no? And what is the point of bashing the Bills on this one when how many other franchises similarly passed on Mahomes before KC?

Now we'll see how much Mayock matters? Opposite take on Rosen by him than Gruden.

And also the Raiders now that Mayock is on board? He could not have possibly drooled any more after Rosen going into the draft if he'd tried: https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/03/17/mike-mayock-raves-about-josh-rosen-after-impressive-pro-day/ https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/mike-mayock-josh-rosen-the-most-natural-thrower-this-year-class/s21BvEWpf382mkJqnLXoGK/

Thanks for digging into the numbers weeds on this. Winston is a reclamation project who at times lost his job to a journeyman backup. I like Arians, but at his age and given what he has to work with, not sure this was the best coaching renaissance opportunity for him.

Thanks @YoloinOhio, great link. This should tide me over for at least through this weekend having to watch other teams play. . The future is looking bright IMHO!!!

I’d only hire Rex if he promised to bring brother St. Nick with him to help with his innovative 46 D. ??

I’m totally good with him staying in our division. Let’s make it 5-1 against Gase in 2019!

Wow--how did you come across that one @The Real Buffalo Joe? Kudos for digging in the stacks to offer up this gem! This has to be the most likely never to be rebooted show of all time Mister Ed. Used to like watching it as a kid during the Nick At Nite runs of all of the old sitcoms, but I just can't imagine what form a reboot could possibly take of the premise.

Much love sent over your way--definitely not alone in the fight.

Embarrassment of riches for GB at QB ever since that dude!

This might replace the gingerbread house project next year for the kids!

The main problem with firing Elway currently, is not that he is a legend of their past, IMO, but that he added another Lombardi trophy to their haul as a GM 3 years ago, along with another SB appearance before that, to go along with a significant # of division titles. He's definitely been under-performing the last couple years though, and at some point you have to think ownership's patience will run out with even him.

Making the right coordinator hires will be even more critical for him then (credit goes here to Captain Obvious who did a heckuva research job for this post), as a resource to assist getting up to speed. Look at the Falcons of late for an extreme example of this--both Koetter and Mularkey back in the fold there under Quinn.

Sorry, at first glance my mind immediately thought you wrote "process."

Introducing...your new Secretary of the Interior! (As soon as funding becomes available). He aced his non-interview by popular demand.

He sure snowed us (no pun intended) with his whole--get me the snowiest part of Buffalo to live in, don't worry, my obnoxiously Bills wrapped truck is 4-wheel drive--type schtick <sigh>. I kinda fell for that to start. I knew the dream was over when he came out with the Clemson helmet for a presser--I mean, better than a 'bama helmet, but still, really??

Could we beat the Giants 22-20 on a 47 yard FG with 8 seconds left? That's my sole criteria.

Obviously I'm a biased voice, I mean, look at my pic, . That disclaimer out of the way, don't discount the value to a franchise of being able to draw upon its past to both inform and inspire, as well as setting a certain standard or bar that each successive regime/player generation should at least try to attain to/supersede. Why are some of the NFL's oldest franchises also its proudest for good reason, such as the Packers, Steelers, Cowboys, 49ers or Bears? They honor their history and seek to (mostly) do that level proud, while at the same time forging updated offensive/defensive identities along the way to help sustain that. My point is, embrace it, don't try to run away from it. I'm not arguing to keep schemes the same, I'm arguing that past excellence to the extent that your franchise ever had it, should be the standard by which later eras are judged in comparison, and that's not a bad thing! And if there are some things that obviously worked back then, which could help you contemporaneously, why not try to incorporate it? Much of the Bills no-huddle approach in the 90's, such as a competent QB able to act as his own field general was still relevant as recently as Peyton's run in Indy, where he tweaked the no huddle to fit what worked for his skill set there. Football is football. How many times can it be re-invented before what is old becomes new yet again, like fashion? Frank Reich is who he is today because of his lifetime of football experience and IQ, a foundation honed in Buffalo in the 90's. How exactly is that irrelevant now to the success he's had over the past few years in coaching? Just my .02 cents, worthless as it is. Carry on. Also, many complaints were raised on this board this very year (not sure if you are included in this) that our FO/HC combo was too stuck in the 1950's...but now they're suddenly cutting edge compared to the 90's? That rationale is giving me mental whiplash.

To the contrary, the Pack have always been “rootable” for me where Buffalo is unaffected by the outcome—franchise has a legendary history, is fellow small market-ish and usually does things the right way. Past couple years have taken some of the sheen off for me, but still overall would never say I dislike them the way I do every AFC team outside the Bills pretty much. I especially root for the Pack when playing Dallas, Giants, and ‘Skins. ?

For such an occasion, shouldn’t there be some kind of a free cake ? giveaway or voucher for a free drink to the first 20K who respond to this thread? Congrats @Gugny