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It would appear the NFL and others around the league didn't see it the same way as fans did in the game thread. Big surprise. Have to say I agree with Brady on this one. It's a rough and tumble league and guys are going to hit you if you're running/diving head first for first downs. The flag was appropriate (because intent doesn't matter when it's helmet to helmet). Not ejecting the defender was appropriate. Have to be smarter.

Excellent post. This mirrors my thoughts exactly. Pretending like it's just about one bad game is missing the point.

It’s not that simple though. Eventually his incredible luck when it comes to fumble recoveries, dropped/reversed INTs, etc., is going to flip. The fact is Josh isn’t protecting the football. He can continue improving in all the other areas we’ve all been discussing since last year but if he keeps giving the other teams so many chances at takeaways it isn’t going to work. Also, compare his TOV% to those other guys not just raw numbers with no context. It’s not close.

Week 1: D+ Week 2: A Week 3: C- Week 4: F-

Any observations on the first half fumble that we miraculously recovered? Edit: I'm going out on a limb that Zay won't be on the team next year.

I agree our ST coach should take considerable blame as well. Maybe Dimarco is so poorly coached he doesn't have the freedom to adjust the line. Every team in the league should just overload one side from now on because we obviously have no answer for it.

I am blaming Dimarco -- I mean sure, he made the right decision once the ball was snapped -- but he's the team captain; isn't he supposed to know when we aren't in alignment to block, especially when it happens right in front of him and it's blatantly obvious they had a free man?? I completely disagree that the snap is the main reason the kick was blocked. It was blocked because they had a free rush at Bojo.

Sure but it should have been clear pre-snap that one of the Pats rushers would be uncovered. We had multiple guys lined up inside. Am I to believe that when that happens there's no recourse? We're just screwed? I'd rather take the penalty trying to communicate the mismatch and adjusting formation than let a free rusher in and hoping he doesn't get there before we get the punt off.

He does some good things out there and it would be a mistake IMO to assume that we won't see him deliver another "A" performance before too long, but yes, he's erratic. The part that bugged me the most today was him losing composure. His best quality is his self-confidence. We watched him lose that today and come unglued. It's concerning.

Our ST are a disaster, particularly the punting unit. I never understand why guys don't adjust formation when they see multiple free rushers. That goes for offense and special teams. Dimarco just sat there doing nothing. He's the special teams caption. McD is on year three of not getting this right. It's clearly a big weakness.

He had four TOVs and at least two more almost / should-have-been TOVs (i.e. called back INT, dropped INT) vs. Jets, and we scored only 17 points vs. a bottom 10 defense. He was ineffective for half the game vs. Bengals a bottom 5 defense, and we only scored 21 in that one. He was very good vs. Giants, also a bottom 5 defense. He was brutal today. 3/4. I'm such a huge Bills homer that I post on a message board dedicated to the team. I wouldn't ever come here and accuse someone of not watching the games. No offense, but that's really dumb. Nothing wrong with being an Allen homer but do you seriously disagree that he's had a rough start to the year? I'm legitimately asking.

Coming into the season I wouldn’t have thought so either but Josh has been bad in three of the four games to start the year. This isn’t just about one game. IMO it’s probably too early to pull the plug but it’s no longer too early to start having the convo.

Agreed but at the same time we should probably give him props for a terrific defensive game plan. We made Brady look awful today.

Think it might be time to move on from the comp% trope and start talking about more pressing issues, like is Allen still the right guy to lead this team moving forward? RE his place in the hierarchy of QB stats I’m pretty sure his passer rating and QBR through four games is going to be at or near the bottom of the league, and that’s despite playing three of the weakest teams in the NFL.

I thought he was poor in the Jets and Cinci games as well. He’s one for four to start the year. You’re probably right that it’s too soon to make a change though we may get to see extended time with Barkley regardless. That was a hell of a hit Josh took.

Hate to say it but it might be time to move on from Allen. This team is really good and Barkley can at least get us to the playoffs. Josh has had two off seasons, two training camps, two preseasons, and 16 games. He’s been erratic at best but today was the first time I started to question his mental toughness. This game reminded me of the Peterman five picks game in that Josh got so far into his own head that he couldn’t execute the most basic tasks required by an NFL QB. You have to be able to move on to the next play. So much of what happened today he did to himself, and that’s the worst part of it.

At least we know we're good. Maybe we can sign a replacement level QB off the street tomorrow and improve the offense. Everyone else seems to be doing their jobs.

This is getting ridiculous. I'm beginning to think throwing it up for grabs into double coverage is just too innate a part of Josh's game. Expecting that we're going to be able to coach it out of him is probably unrealistic at this point. Edit: I'm behind in the game and reacting to the 3rd q INT

That FG miss is on Allen. You can't take that sack. In a lot of ways, this half was worse than the five picks Peterman game.

What a catch by Knox!!

I get that pass to Brown probably wasn't catchable but shouldn't it have at least been defensive holding?? Edit: if Josh is even remotely on target there we probably score a TD. Instead we now have a long FGA because he's also too green to know we need to keep an extra guy in on 3rd down. WTF.

Finally we stopped someone inside our own redzone. First time this year Yay! We're now 5/6 on the season in giving up TDs inside our 20.

Harrison Phillips would be helpful right now.

I didn't say there's been no pressure in the game, but he's taken off and run on a few plays with little pressure rather than stay in and make the best throw. Pats are dedicating guys to spy Allen and betting he can't figure out single coverage. So far they've bet correctly.

Dabol is in a tough position. Play calling right now is brutal but what is he supposed to do when his QB goes full on deer in the headlights? Josh needs to man up and show some mental toughness here. It's one thing to have a bad series or quarter but you can't completely melt down out there.