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Speaking of this… did anyone see Josh split Collins and Van Noy at one point during the game and then look Van Noy up and down with a little smirk. It cracked me up.

Provide actual examples of his play in games that show you he’s not intelligent… you’re just speaking in generalities.

No. He can’t get elevated every week. That’s not how it works. He was being brought up early in the season - check the transaction tab… he was signed to the active roster on October 19th, 2021. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BryaMy01.htm The Patriots elevated DL Daniel Ekuale, DB D'Angelo Ross and WR Kristian Wilkerson to the active roster this week.

Wait… you said you don’t have evidence you just feel it? Now you have evidence from watching him play? Make it make sense…

I also want to circle back to this… because it isn’t true. Myles Bryant has been on the active roster since October. He’s played over 50% of the defensive snaps this season on the #1 rated defense in football.

Yes Diggs and Beasley were good players before they got to Buffalo… Josh elevated them to a level they hadn’t touched previously. Nothing on John Brown? Nothing on Zay Jones and Robert Foster because you’re not familiar with them? Doesn’t that prove my point. Foster was a UDFA that Josh made relevant his rookie year and has never been seen again across the NFL. Zay Jones put up 700 yards and 7 TDs and has been buried in Oakland for 3 years since. Allen didn’t throw McKenzie the ball? He gets zero credit? The same practice squad CB was on Cole Beasley in Buffalo… I guess the weather helped a bit. Josh “gunning it 5 feet over their head happens maybe twice a game” so what? The inaccuracy thing is a ludicrous argument. He misfires from time to time… what QB doesn’t under pressure?

Alright, I may have been confused by your initial statement then. I’m not going to try and argue he’s on the level of Brady and Manning when it comes to elevating the talent around him… but to say he hasn’t been able to do so yet isn’t really true. Stefon Diggs, Cole Beasley and John Brown put up career years in Buffalo under Josh Allen. Zay Jones and Robert Foster had career years with Josh Allen circa 2018. Heck Isaiah McKenize is a depth piece and he went for 11/125/1 yesterday. That’s not elevating the talent around you? Your argument for Josh having accuracy issues is when he’s forced off his game and made uncomfortable… you mean like every quarterback from Pop Warner to the NFL?

What they’ll do next is bring in weapons? They spent $40M/year last off-season on weapons. While they will look to upgrade, the idea that they didn’t surround Mac with talent is dishonest. They did… it either wasn’t worth the money or Mac is making them look bad. Believe me, the narrative in NE was that Henry and Jonnu were a modern day Gronk and Hernandez + the speed of Agholor and Bourne was going to be unstoppable. Throw in Jakobi Meyers and you’ve got a nice chain mover to complete the offense.

Can you explain how Josh is missing it between the ears?

You’re also negating the fact that Newton never was capable of throwing the ball like Allen… Cam relied on his legs to make him an effective QB. I understand you’re trying to assert that Josh isn’t a good passer. @PatsFanNH

You’re really trying to push the accuracy/can’t be a pocket passer narrative with Josh Allen? Come on man. Of course the legs add another element… but you’re treating him as if he’s Lamar Jackson. The man just put up back to back 30+ TD and 4,000+ yard seasons. That puts him on a short list with Rodgers Brady Manning Brees I can’t get in to any subscription based services but in mid-November Josh was the 2nd most pressured QB in the entire league behind Darnold. Beginning of November he was 2nd in completions and 1st in yards when pressured.

Where did he miss a wide open Knox? Are you referring to the play where Josh threw it slightly behind Knox as he was falling down and had to change his arm slot to avoid it getting batted down by a defender?

Hey @ScottLaw have you come out and admit that you were flat out wrong and spewing absolute bull#### based on your feelings before the game? You were confident McDermott was going to come out playing not to lose.

@ScottLaw Super conservative first drive. Hate to see it.

What’s the definition of a big game? Is it the Titans game week 6? Chiefs game week 5?

Exactly… it’s off the top of your head. There are outlets that track this… he’s considered one of the top decision makers when it comes to making the right decision in those situations.

Scott. It’s never been done once. You speak based on your memory of things and never show any actual evidence.

Please. What pregame transactions? Moss? How do you know it’s not because we’re going to throw 60 times and he’s the better pass protection back. please.

Well show the actual history of the decision making. The numbers don’t actually bear this out. It’s guys on this message board speaking from their recollection.

Based on what Scott? Your feelings?

How exactly is he proving a point? This is conjecture and speculation. We have no idea what the reasoning for the decision is.

Didn’t you say you were going to be positive this week? 😂 Cool. Who do you suggest we hire?

Yes, this is where I’m at with it. The Titans did it, the Ravens have done it with backups. We need the win, guys need to go out an execute at the highest level they’re capable of.

Yeah you’re definitely right. Not disputing that… the names look awful on paper… Bobby Hart is not very good… but when you realize that 4/5 of the line has been starting most of the year it feels like they should be able to play close to the level they have this year - which is just mediocre enough to have Josh bail them out all game.

So we’re playing 4/5 of what has been our offensive line for most the year? Obviously the Dawkins downgrade to Hart sucks. It would be great to have him and Feliciano… but it’s not as bad as we’re making it out to be. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not great. The line has been a let down all year… but relatively speaking.