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GOBBLE GOBBLE. I love his game.

Mad respect for Gruden if so haha

Come on with that. Did JA set the bar with his worst game? The bar was Tyrod's season to date. We yanked after one particularly bad game and several mediocre games. I don't feel comfortable yanking a mediocre Quarterback on a clearly ****y offense and for a 5th round rookie against a monster pass rush in the playoff hunt. You're fine with playing the 10% odds (or whatever you felt it to be) that dude is better, I'm not.. agree to disagree there I guess. But it's ultimately who is the better Quarterback between the 2.. and McDermott HAD NO IDEA 7 WEEKS IN JUST HOW BAD PETERMAN WAS. From a fan perspective sure we can say maybe he should start we can't see that practice. A good coach should have known who the better quarterback is regardless of who had a poor game the week before. Like I can't think of one single thing Peterman is better at than Tyrod.. I would say the anticipation throws but Peterman is so freaking reckless with that I'd rather have a guy that didn't throw his first read with reckless abandon. A good coach would probably see that recklessness decision making if he was paying attention in practice, would think to himself "hmm good completion on a throw Tyrod is hesistant to make.. but was that telegraphed and would a defense blitzing take advantage of a reckless gunslinger who throws his last progression route to a terrible receiver when under pressure.. no matter what? Probably not a good idea"

Sure at least it's fun!

No they're bad route runners that don't beat man coverage and put themselves in a difficult zone spot. Think about Edelman who gets open at will.. you can throw the anticipation throws a handful of times, it also helps if Edelman-type-slot-WR beats his man with a sharp cut, or spots the best place to run in zone for the passing lane for his Quarterback. We don't have any guys in that league and I don't even want to start with the tiny catch radius they have when not open but theoretically could make a tough grab. Zay Jones is really the only guy that runs a decent route consistently.

Duh?! QB play can get a lot worse than Tyrod. Top 64 QB by the worst definition we have #s 80, 100, and some dude that's like the 1000th best QB in the world. I found that argument ludicrous. "BUT THE SAINTS GAME".. At least he can do the Dolphins game and pull a few more out of his ***, huh, maybe he can win a few games. As he did! Of course you can be worse than a career .500 QB. Especially an athletic one that hides your offensive defencenies Eh they were dead wrong. While in the playoff hunt the Bills NP decision was nationally a surprise (in a bad way) before and certainly after the game. And these guys hardly follow the Bills they just knew Tyrod had a few bad games on a horrible offense and knew NP wasn't going to do better on that same offense.

You get a taste of the playoffs and all the sudden you never want to miss it again.. maybe that's why TBD is going nuts.

And when he does, NO breakaway speed. On the rare occasion he makes those awesome ankle breakers I often see the guy hustle back and catch up to him Jelly of that screenname

He throws a really crappy screen, likely doesn't keep defenses honest, but otherwise yeah Shady should still be able to make more plays. The Barry Sanders Le'Veon Bell and Shady types can you get away with bad offense provided Shady really is what he's billed to be right now and not over the hill

My ultimate gripe. You're describing the definition of opportunity cost. At least Whaley gave his bust Quarterback an immediate chance to succeed quickly. The difference feels like 1 GM was confident you could win quickly, the other is taking his sweet time and basically holding onto his job. If it really boils down to cap then I'm giving these guys next year to not completely suck I'm not opposed to drafting receiver first and literally every offensive line position afterwards

We had a great offense with those guys who cares about the glorious passing yards we seem to highly correlate with wins. It's about 1st downs.

It is inept. I haven't checked out of football this early since 2012. Apathy just sucks when the Bills are entertainment. While I think we are going in the right direction my personal annoyance if you will with this season is we have zero idea about what Josh Allen can do. And that's a huge waste of a year if he turns out JaMarcus Russell bad. This season is opportunity cost.

Just speculating on what could have happened. I don't think an extreme Jon Gruden type rebuild is necessary for any team. It comes across as a cop out for regimes that are unwilling to compromise a long-term vision of Their Own with the long-term ramifications of the pieces they are given. Last year we could have invested much more in the offense and been competitive. How does a hamper you when you rebuild filling in your weaknesses year-to-year? The ultimate goal is to be competitive on both sides of the ball. why not Leverage our defense strength to invest in offense. If the plan is to go all out on offense with all this cap I'm hearing about as well as draft capital why couldn't we have built up both sides in the course of 2 years rather than beefing up a defense that already proved they could carry a crap offense to the playoffs.

All true. I suppose I'll counter that it's not black and white and there's you can better your football team by reloading and/or rebuilding. My end point ultimately is I don't like new GM/coaching regimes to have too much hubris that they insist on a rebuild with "their guys" because it's their way or the highway ie Jon Gruden. I"ll put on my uninformed football czar cap and tell what I've agreed and disagreed with so far. 2014 Bills squad: i'd have retained Swatkins, dumped Tyrod (when they did agree with that move) played a cheap game manager quarterback this year such as say.. Glennon, KAEP?! (national media is roasting us and Jags for not getting better), Bridgewater, Matt Moore, Chase Daniel etc... idk I think a lot of backups had more experience game managing than McCarron for a similar price. And banked on ANY coach that could have motivated Dareus because that's the coach the roster needed.. if such a man exists. Point is McVay seems to get his roster of slackers to perform. Obvs in hindsight we could have gotten a good QB in 2017 draft but that's another question.. that's a good roster with some but not much cap relief (I think).. I'd dump Clay if we needed to.. he was clearly brought in for Roman/Taylor power run offense. Say no coach on the planet can give us 2014 Dareus, say we're starting last off-season.. playoff team: make it better! Defensive unit was clearly good enough, spend some draft and FA capital on offense, maybe keep Tyrod who at least can get a W or 2 when the rest of the offense is ****in the bed. Draft O Line, WR, and keep up the fantastic garbage diving for secondary. I don't know if we have the draft capital to get Edmunds or Allen.. but if we love Allen we go Allen and keep Tyrod around year to year. Otherwise Tyrod and Edmunds.. point is I think THIS off-season was a junction where we failed to reload.. we had little cap but it was a rebuild simply by not giving a **** about the offense. Call it a hybrid at that juncture and friggin go offense, reload after a simultaneous rebuild that gave us a playoff team.. And maybe I'm crazy but I think the offensive linemen that retired, Cogs and Woods we're not ready to restart and were out simply because we dumped Tyrod. The vets are likely to go when they no longer recognize the offense they had so much success with pound and ground those 2 years. A hybrid rebuild is our intact 2015 offense with our great defensive coaching and secondary from 2017 along with draft capital aimed at WR and ANY FA capital at WR (although the wr class was weak).. Any of that seem feasible to you? Just felt like we could have simply improved the offense, kept some vets along with the secondary core intact instead of following the master plan of building a Lego peice team by putting Legos on a defense unchanged that basically carried us to the playoffs and while tossing away Legos on the other offensive half.. we could have beefed up with Edmunds type and/or Allen type in 2 years rather than having a raw QB on a **** offense and a great rookie MLB in a unit that is already a strength at the same time. and for the record I find the statement that the Rams were in a prime position regardless of what happened when Fisher left is dismissing just how good McVay was. AT THE TIME: Goff was a bust, Gurley had a bad year, the offense looked bad. They had one lynchpin in Aaron Donald and questionable pieces. They we're likely similar to us.. they went what.. like 4-12 under Fisher? I don't think people were saying they were a coaching staff away from reloading. It's apparent now they were, and that's sort of my theory on what I want new regimes to fully understand when they take over a team. DON'T BE A GRUDEN lol

Ya don't always have to "start over" ☺️ some teams.. and I know this is crazy.. hire coaches that are willing to build off the personnell they are given and not rebuild. Sean McVay: "THIS TEAM SUCKS I HATE GOFF AND GURLEY.. 5 YEAR REBUILD!!!!" Or maybe he's just better than Fisher ? Very true. I'm hard pressed to go back and find a team that wasn't great defensively. People forget the Pack was loaded on D when they won.. I typically see SB winners with consistently great defense and usually good, but not always great offense (Broncos, Bucs, 2000 Ravens, first Big Ben version Steelers, 2007 Giants).

He's been on his best Tyrod impersonation recently. Mind you Tyrod was pretty darn good year 1.

I think the Cowboys are a good WR corps away from being a competitive team with the NFC powerhouses and know Dak needs the weapons.. he's just not that perfect Drew Brees QB, which is fine. Give him weapons a la Goff and hope Dak plays like his rookie self.. Sure it's an overpay but I think Cooper's great and if a team believes they're a player or 2 away from getting to the ultimate goal they are going to overpay.. that's all. Of all the teams in the NFL, I'd say the cowboys had the most clear DEMAND for a WR. Thus they paid more than others were willing to.

Sundays with any remote playoff indications. My formative fan year was cheering to beat the Browns 0-7 on a last minute drive to hopefully get 8 to be 8-8 all the while hoping a crap ton of other scenarios went our way so we could squeak in. Was I crushed when we lost 0-7? Sure. Did I have fun along the way ? Absolutely. Am I checked out right now? You bet. Am I excited? I don't see a particular reason to be, but I don't know.. maybe we go 8-8 next year and squeak in. To next year! ?

I AIN'T WAITING 5 DAMN YEARS. Unless year 2 is playoffs competitive, 3 is an unlucky division round exit, 4 is a tough SB loss to a team that had it's year, and 5 is SB glory with all that playoff SB experience. Let's um.. aim high next year? Sorry did not even read that post. Yes your 5-year plan is unfortunately possible at the moment

If playing Peterman is trusting the process then I"m out of the process. Ain't trusting that definition. That's like 182 Peterman's! More process!

I'm getting confused by these posts.. is Beane getting paid to do nothing while McDermott coaches AND builds the roster?? Because as far as I can tell.. McDermott has proved he can make water into wine, Beane has proven he can make that offensive water as rank as humanly possible.

what if we told you THERE'S A TAILGATE! Mead? //Mead immediately cancels any other plans

Maybe I'm misinformed but Beane is THE GM calling the bogus shot while McD is trying his damndest to win and doesn't want to throw his players ( and GM under that implication) under the bus. He never strikes me as a tanker just makes very stupid decisions. Unleash McD's talents with a good GM. Let's separate the McBeane Ionic bond!

Let's NEVER play him cause he might get hurt... Wtf this is football, anybody could get hurt on any play. Bad OL or Bernard Pollard rolling into Brady's knee, or Teddy Bridgewater literally just trying to drop back. He's a big boy and needs experience

It's a metaphor for anything anybody wants their agenda to be. Android voice text recognition. It's how you drive and TBD son