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I.. don't really care about that, Favre got the crap knocked out of him, Cam is Ironman, those guys can take a beating and Cam has missed a game or 2, Favre holds the streak, you just want your Quarterback to be tough as nails (like Rivers, Eli, Big Ben, Brett, Cam, Rodgers) but play to whatever style makes them tick.. Big Ben's broken play trademark breaks him a lot but he wouldn't be Big Ben if he played like Phillip Rivers.. he'd be pretty mediocre if he didn't extend plays. He always seems to have those games where he gashes a team that doesn't respect the scramble. If he's got a spy he plays the straight and narrow, but he gets those 80 yard rushing games every now and then.. did it to us in London in the EJ game too.

I must be thinking of another river John, I thought he was one of us! Ya know, the process deniers, I've been keeping an eye out on spam repeat posts.. ya know the "this year is all about JA and not wins" and "nothing really matters ever because we are in a figment existential universe called the process so everything that happens is good." I thought he wasn't one of the Brave New World posters! I ****ing love your post though. Not to attack someone individually (only Joe for me) but you describe the exact posters that are slowly killing my soul.

Did you play on a professional football team with a dude in the booth??

I don't think we're arguing man I said he already runs a lot in my first post and I like it. So I agree with the sentiment of the OP and recognize that he should be good at all facets of the game as well.. we're both just saying we want him to be good.

Rosen is throwing dimes in case you haven't seen him. The Cards receivers have a case of drops worse than us.

Well deserved. Kelvin really pissed me off at the 2 minute mark in the 4th game winning drive when he half***ed a block and then stood lazily directly in Ivory's running lane, who had to bounce off him and go out of bounds. DO SOMETHING RIGHT KB.

I saw the Cardinals game today and you really can't top Patrick Peterson yet. Man can do it all and he's a vet in his prime.

He's a phenomenal coach that's made a few mistakes. My issue is when we keep McBeane chained together as one entity when maybe we could see what McDermott can do without a "**** roster".. who gave him that roster ? Like.. does he have all that power on offense? I'm totally fine if he's all controlling on defense.. so long as we have a GM and OC tooling a good offense for McD. McD didn't make the decision to make ZERO improvement to offensive personnell as it's been gutted over 2 years... At least I hope not.

As can Allen I hope? What does that have to do with letting him run? No one's advocating he never passes from the pocket

CAM NEWTON WON MVP. RUSSELL WILSON. BIG BEN. It's okay to be unconventional. You win with what talebt you're given!

I'm talking more about people crying to the mods a thread gets taken down. He should expect deconstruction, not crying to the mods about an opinion that is disagreeable.

Totally understand that. Don't understand why people want to enforce mob mentality.

Allen runs a lot as is.. but I agree, he looks like Cam (I pegged him more as a Roethlesberger type), let him loose, he's a lot better scrambling than I ever expected Cam was MVP when he was cut loose. Ya got to let your Quarterback play to his strength, gives him confidence.

I liked Allen's last drive.. recievers let him down again. He's improving and shows he has talent. But I hate self policing wannabe mods.. Mahomes is the MVP quarterback as of now. Rosen looks as advertised when he was the runaway #1 overall pick in March. We CAN be critical of the regime and not cry to the mods when someone makes a hot take OP. You're having a mod crusade Doc. I like your posts but I don't like crying to the mods when you disagree. The team is an emotional rollercoaster and the forum is a rollercoaster.. let the free speech ride brutha!

You forgot your signature but DPG gets it. PT5P

Yeah a lot of us just got called miserable asshats. I wasn't aware I was a miserable asshat but what can ya do? His QB coach must be a miserable asshat when he critiques his performances and shows him how to improve. He would be soooo much better if he was surrounded by people that never gave him points to improve his game upon. PT5P

Same.. I've never done it before. Then again I'm afraid I might not see some brilliant future telling, at least from all the "told ya so" posts there's gotta be some right?

Why

You didn't know posters are always right? Because they change their opinion constantly based on 20/20 hindsight? And gloat about it every week? Actually only one person comes to mind now that I think about it.. gloating about anything every Sunday. Swell person. Yeah the defense played amazing.

Every season is about wins and #17 is going to be the difference maker. If he can't win with this defensive performance (he needs to play the bare minimum of mediocre quarterback play), then we lose, and I'm officially worried. If he does win these games consistently even though he looks ugly doing it, that's a great rookie year for 17 and should be a lot more wins than this offense has any business earning. But damn Rosen throws a pretty ball with the Cardinals. They have a case of the dropsies worse than us, but don't look at his stat lines, just know Larry friggin Fitzgerald has dropped 2 dimes of would be TD throws. Didn't particularly notice the front 7 played that well, but would love that development to stay that way

Haha yes I'd like to know what our plan is rather than retroactively defining the process. Apparently it's all a master plan if we go 13-3 or 2-14 BUT 8-8 IS UNACCEPTABLE definitely not the process master plan... Unless we go 8-8. Oh yeah a Mike Pettine defense is a rookie's nightmare. Blitzes they've never seen at any point in the game.

You have super good 20/20 hindsight vision of the process. You went from "all the stupid anti-tankers don't Billeive in a 1st overall pick, clearly the process can't get any better" to "all the stupid process doubters sure are hating winning games and being in the playoff hunt, clearly the process can't get any better" How do I trust that process which changes every week as defined by Joe? How do I find a middle ground with you? How do I get your approval when I celebrate wins and hate losses, while you celebrate anything? You LOVED the week 1 loss and you LOVED the Vikings game. How about we agree with each other for LOVING the Titans and Vikings games

Milage was all he was worried about. But Jets Ivory was a nightmare to us that was the perfect version of Ivory this team needed.. and apparently got

I don't want you screaming about how stupid TBD is Thought I was blocked ?

He is! Secondary beefed up even more out of nowhere! I'm critical of this regime but not critical whatsoever of McD's magical secondary powers. It's the difference that let's this team win games this year and last year.