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I wouldn't take it that seriously. In the end Tyrod gets to start for a team. The Bills got a 3rd round pick. Tyrod is in a place that wants him. We have yet to really see what it all means. Tyrod has a starting season. We will see if Tyrod magic works for them. We will see who starts for us...

I seen him make some plays. Milano can be good. It wouldn't shock me if he became a force. As for the thread itself, the defense did some special things last season. I'm actually confident the defense will be elite.

Fans calling themselves the Bills Mafia doesn't make them organized crime it's just a nick name. Josh is just trying to fit in with the people. Mafia is a theme used in movies, tv series and video games. It's not taken as serious as it once used to be. It's more of a part of history now.

You make good points. I'd have to agree Whaley made a mistake on Shaq based on the timing aspect alone. Why wait around for a player when you can draft a guy like Tre White that contributes immediately.

I think McDermott had an effect on the team last season. Defense was doing some special things as far as turn overs and holding teams from scoring. McDermott acknowledged the problem was "scoring points" so at least I know he was aware of it. The problem is now in Dabolls hands. Hopefully he has answers for that scoring problem. I think McDermott played the hand he was delt well enough for me to not fully rule out making the playoffs again.

McDermott is #1 on my list.

I think some ex players of the Bills get some benefit of the doubt. When your thrust into a situation with little or no foundation it might decrease a players chance for success. Players like Sammy and Tyrod. Then you got guys like Dareus who check out and you know it's on them. Then you got guys like Shady who is elite enough to still get some production on a sub par offense. As next season progresses we will have more evidence to speculate on. It's good fun.

No offense to this thread but the only information I will find useful about Tyrod now is his play in Cleveland.

I think what you said is fair. Peterman isn't a guy I would bet on being great. I don't think Peterman was ready to start. I just don't rule him out just yet. The rookie did throw himself headfirst in that snow game. That was a stupid move but it showed a guy with heart. Peterman was in over his head in that Chargers game. You could consider it a debacle. He wasn't terrible in his second debut in the snow. He just made a stupid dive trying to get more yards and it cost him. I don't think Peterman is a main plan but he is in the mix so maybe they see a potential to grow still. I'm ok with that considering the circumstances.

I like the idea of Kelvin Benjamin. I like the idea of a big target. That hit he took to his leg that injured him made me think that being a big target can be a bad thing in some situations. I hope he doesn't frequently take shots that will cause injury because he is a big target is what I'm saying. The other guys I hope make a name for themselves in the WR core. You say JK but even if your kidding I wouldn't disagree with you. I'd kick the tires on Sammy again considering the situation. The only thing about Sammy Watkins that bugs me is what Buffalo spent to get him and the end result. I'm not looking to blame Sammy for the end result. So to me regulardless of the causing factor the situation was mismanaged. The team spent to get a #1 WR and didn't turn him into one. That is the only thing that I don't like about the Sammy situation. So when I say I didn't hear anything about Sammy Watkins hasn't doing anything to make me regret the team moving on I say it without a bias against him. If he lights it up and gets that posotive media chatter then I will be inclined to think possibly Buffalo could of gotten that out of him if it was managed better at the time. I still think the Dareus as far as players that hurt the team always wins.

The bolded is important. At least to me. If you can't put him in a good situation don't put him in. Sacrifice the other guys.

I don't think Tyrod was a disaster. I don't think other people really feel Tyrod was that bad. They just pushing buttons. Tyrod is definitely a guy that can makes plays. If he can some how turn it up and make more plays he would definitely be a guy that you want for QB. It could be his surrounding cast was the fault. It may be that defensive coordinators might have figured him out. It might just be Rick Dennison was that terrible. I just know that at times the offense got shut down. A few times it was shut down entire games. So yes in games with Tyrod at QB exciting things happen. At times he can make it work. I think next season will just be more evidence to what he really is. A guy stalled out by circumstances or a guy who can't elevate or be deceptive in his game and was figured out by the NFL. I've already mentioned before that I take McDermotts side. It won't feel as good if somehow Tyrod turns up.

You notice he had a lot of good to say about the Rams when he first went to that team. Then he gets frustrated about targets. Rams was the second team he wasn't getting targets and feeling frustrated. I just see a pattern that is all I'm saying. Hopefully for him he gets established in KC. Good recievers get the job done. I'm sure all good WRs get focused on right? He can't be the only talented WR in the NFL that's drawing coverages.

I really have no opinion on him. I post that picture because people say he draws the coverage so it's hard to pass to him. I never felt he was a all star for the Bills and he hasn't settled in anywhere yet to be that all star. I'm not saying that he won't be. He hasn't done anything to make me feel like the Bills messed up letting him go. I just think people put in to much work trying to prop him up as something he hasn't become yet.

I have questions about Tyrod that I don't feel are answered completely. I have a good idea but I still have some doubts about my feelings on him. This season should secure everything and put it to rest for me personally. I am rooting against Tyrod. I hope he struggles to score points in Cleveland. I hope he is benched before the end of the season. I don't want to regret my team letting him go. I don't want him to out perform what my team has for QB and make me feel like letting him go was the wrong choice. I don't want to miss him as my QB. I don't want to sit through the endless debate because I won't be able to not participate. It is addictive. At least he was traded to the Browns so I think I'll get my way. I think it will take a miracle for that nightmare to happen.

If you crusaded against Peterman that hard be prepared to eat crow if you were wrong. I'm not talking about having doubts either. I'm talking 40 pages deep repeating the 5 interceptions again and again. Only so many times you can say something before it's a broken record. You only need to be on record about your feelings once.

Buffalo Bills.

My speculation is based on what I seen unfold. I seen McDermott for whatever reason make a choice to try something different. That is a HC I want and can believe in. The same people that pile on him for starting Peterman early are calling to start Josh Allen early. I just sometimes wonder what kind of HC they want. They want him to learn a lesson then go out and do the same thing essentially, start a rookie. I just don't think they know what kind of HC they want. I'm happy I got the HC I want. I support him 100% no matter who starts the season. I do that because if it isn't good enough down the stretch changes will be made. Those changes might not work out and the people will be critical at every failed move. I won't be. It's the growing pains of the team. I don't agree with the people who pile on one 5 interception game. They can stay back in the past and hold onto any hope that what they have will be good enough. I'm willing to understand the struggle is real and you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. I think it's to early to be certain of anything. I'm certainly not letting draft hopes and dreams taint my view of the reality of the QB situation in Buffalo. I'll put my hopes into all 3 with the understanding that the odds are against them.

To much emotion shown when trying to break down the situation. Just my opinion. I think I saw the one guy doing a mini prayer. This leads me to believe it's more about wants. Feel free to show me something of substance and I'll subscribe. Break down that film for me.

I'm just going to agree with you. I would think he is already on the outside looking in. I myself couldn't dismiss the little freak out incident. The spot a person gets drafted doesn't guarantee success. Plus if the surgery causes missed reps that won't help. Anything can happen or whatever but I wouldn't bet on Zay at this point. I'm going to have to see something to believe it at this point. On a different team with more established WRs I don't think Zay is sitting comfortable at all. I'm rooting for him and hope he is successful but all I've seen is situations that make me doubt it more. You can't preach an earn it type culture and favor somebody over draft spot to protect your pride. That can be the case but it's folding on your own culture. Unless Zay is that good he should be seen as equal to the other unknowns on the team. That is how I see him in a way. I don't want a person to win the starting role by default. I want them to legitimately beat out the competition.

You only hear about former players if they get arrested or something. So no news is good news bro. /S

I heard it's because Rick Dennison tricked him into thinking he's good. So that's why. /S

I'll just trust what Shady is saying. Says nice things but he makes sure to keep it realistic and reeled in with the I'm not saying he's Jim Kelly comment.

If not I think the next time the team should draft a real jerk.