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In the spirit of being a good sport I won't push my opinion. I put it on record and I will own it when the time comes. We have different philosophies and I respect that. I did enjoy the discourse. I look forward to revisiting the discussion on Allen during preseason and the start of the season. Obviously I think a lot of successful QBs wouldn't exactly have the same success starting for the Bills next season let alone a rookie QB with a huge potential to be great, but that is of course my opinion. Obviously I want Allen to be successful, the sooner the better. So I hope people don't get the impression that I don't want that. I'm going to need to see it to believe it. Thanks for the civil debate.

Is QB the only thing the Bills offence is missing? Nick Foles won the Superbowl. Would Nick Foles bring the Bills to the Superbowl and win next season?

The cartoon is just an example of some guy riding the hype and jumping ship during struggle. Like I predict a lot of people will do if Allen struggles. It's not hard to understand. Well I guess it is.... I still haven't seen any good arguments to start Allen besides hypothetical what ifs.

I really don't know if the situation is the same. I would have to ask if Watson started on a team with a new OC when the last OC was fired the year before. Did the line lose a couple key players like our line lost woods and Incognito? Was a new scheme being implemented at the start of Watson's career? Even escape artist Tyrod got planted on his head and had to take a seat his last game of the year with the line we had before we lost players. How long does it take for a new OC to implement a new scheme and everything to gel together anyway? Was the result of Watson being injured a good one? Did the Texans spend as much draft capital on Allen as the Texans did with Watson. Was it a new GMs first draft with a HC going into his second year? I just think with all that going on it wouldn't be reasonable to question why the rush to throw out your rookie QB that you invested heavily in on a team that's cap strapped and hit with a few unplanned curve balls. Did Watson have a receiving core that is looked down upon like our current one is. I mean Zay almost jumped out a window man. Now dude getting surgery and will it effect anything? Is it that crazy to think it would look stupid if Allen starts and calamiy happens and he sits for the rest of the year anyway due to injury? Would it have been worth the risk because people are riding the hype of a rookie QB? Is Allen that good coming out of college people want to bank on him having an immediate impact on a team that was having struggles scoring points the year before. Anything can happen but wow man.

Getting out of debt doesn't give you an excuse to spend yourself back into debt. Yes I want some spending to go down. Spend on guys like Shady and avoid guys like Dareus.

The only way I'll criticize the Bills for starting Allen is if he suffers a serious injury. I'm talking season ending. I don't even blame McDermott for starting Peterman. In fact I still support the fact he did it.

Well I've given my opinion about the Bills being cautious. I think it's a wise approach. I'm not against Allen starting. I'm not saying my opinion is fact, I just feel strongly. I don't think the team is ready based on last season. It's the present now I understand that.

Just showing you some media around Cam Newton when he had his early struggles. I don't think the team is ready.

Just a reminder. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebiglead.com/2012/09/26/cam-newton-carolina-honeymoon-is-over-hello-kitty-panther-cartoon/amp/?source=images

Whatever helps you feel better that Rosen was the last of the Top 4 to go.

I have a feeling that the people wanting him to start will be the first ones to give up in him if he struggles. I think it's them wanting to write the book on Allen. They want to judge the pick as soon as possible. I don't think it's them wanting Allen to start because it will make the team better. If he starts and struggles I bet no one calling for him to start will say it was a mistake to rush him in. They will only say Allen sucks.

I agree with you that we have to wait and see. Although placing doubt on him isn't any better then giving him the benefit of the doubt. I would think we would all want him to succeed. I don't mind if he wants to talk about his vision. It gets me excited. All I'm saying is he didn't fail as the Bills OC yet. I'm rooting for him. I want to see quotes about his vision. It's if he fails I don't want to see the excuses. Then I won't want to listen to what he says about his vision. If it doesn't work.

I can respect a person who watches a lot of tape then offers thier opinion. The thing is two people can look at a piece of art and have two different interpretations of what that art means. I've watched a few peoples analysis of some of Allen's game tape. Even some of Petermans 5 interception games. I appreciate the time and effort in the break down. At the end of the day I just see it as one guys interpretation of what that tape means. I take conclusions into consideration. I mean that's why I look at people doing analysis of tape. I crave thier opinions. Obviously it isn't exact science or people would have 100% track records when giving a prediction of a persons future. Then there always the human factor. Sometimes we are a product of our environment. Just my thoughts. College isn't the NFL and the Bills are not Wyoming. People shouldn't be so quick to disagree or agree. Just take what's presented then ponder over it then see the outcome and give credit to those who got it right.

Probably save a lot of money by getting a chicken and growing my own garden. I've always had a desire to get off the grid as much as I could. Never did take the plunge.

Shady has been blessed by the football Gods. I wouldn't bet money on him being injured. I do realize it can happen. The team shouldn't be so dependant on him anyway. That leads to having boxes stacked or whatever so regardless other players need to contribute to the production or it won't matter. Run heavy is ok, run only is just bad. Shady should be a bullet in the chamber not the only weapon the team has at it's disposal. That's what makes me believe he could be injured. When you run the guy through a defense that is completely keyed in on him.

I did all my thinking and it's already flown out the window. I just want to wipe the slate clean in my mind and see how the season unfolds and be a Bills fan. I have some faith and I have some doubts. I'm ready to ride the highs and lows of the season. I found myself very critical twords the end of last season only to see lightning strike. It was amazing to see the video of the team when Andy Dalton made the play that secured the playoffs. I'm glad I got to live vicariously through them at that moment and share the joy. I was dissapointed in myself for counting the Bills out. It was a lesson learned for me. I feel like I read the first few chapters of the Bills in the new era and I'm eagerly anticipating reading the next few chapters. I'm really just hoping for a happy ending to this story.

I hope Tre drops a helmet on that bionic elbow piece.

So I guess the smart thing to do is not date her in the first place. Oh but that cookie so sweet.

He did what many before him couldn't do. He made it rain on the drought. He did that in his first year as a HC after a fire sale of players. When people thought it was doom the team trended up. I live in the real world. The drought was broken. McDermott is amazing.

I don't think it was a mistake. Tyrod needed to be benched. It felt real good. I appreciate the benching a lot. I'll enjoy seeing him benched again in Cleveland next season. It effected nothing. We got to see what we had in Peterman and Tyrod still got to play his 3 point playoff game. 3 point games and 5 interception games. Not a whole lot going on in either direction but at least I got to look both ways. I'll never have to wonder. I'll never have to say well what if we started Peterman!!?!?! The only way AJ will stick around is if he moves the chains and scores points. Until that happens he is just a cheap option that will hold the fort down until the team finds a QB that can. There is no commitment to Peterman, AJ or Allen. I only hope we commit to the guy that can play QB like a boss. Why anybody cares about how a guy feels in the future who hasn't even played a game yet for the Bills is mind boggling. Whoever plays QB like a Boss will get what they want. They will have some say about things if and when that happens. This is a earn it first culture now. Besides anybody playing the position adequately isn't getting benched. Tyrod wasn't plain and simple fact. So he got benched. Peterman sucking didn't make Tyrod good it just made him better then a guy throwing 5 interceptions that is all.

I love Tre White. Shady and Tre are my two favorite Bills right now. All I wanted was a Tre White interception of Tom Brady and I got it.

I am to much of a fan of McDermott to entertain doubt right now. He met and exceeded my expectations in his first season as a head coach. A few of the players dissapointed me but they are not Bills anymore. Now it's season #2 and I have my personal expectations set just a little bit higher. I'm just waiting to see if he can deliver again. I have confidence if he will.

I really have enjoyed my interactions with other posters. I never hold grudges and take anything personally. I just come for the news and discourse. I think the board is well run. If situations have become problematic I didn't even notice. I probably wouldn't have a clue as to who was acting as a high maintenance poster. I enjoy the different personalities. It's like different ingredients to a full meal. The only real complaint I could make is how the political and racial climate causes a division between people. Unfortunately those real world problems exist and people will have strong feelings about them. So I'm not expecting that to go away. I just would hope that people realize that we should be able to unite under the common interest of being Bills fans and football fans in general. When it comes to that we should put those things aside and realize we all bleed Buffalo red, white and blue. I'd rather break bread and talk Bills football and leave those personal agendas out of it. Just my thoughts.

I don't know. I just type and let the auto fill work it's magic. It is funny you caught that.