Maine-iac

I was a Taylor fan. Specifically a Taylor fan in Roman/Lynn's offense. The complete inability to keep pass catchers around Taylor was the biggest hindrance to his time here. This defense and Taylor and that offense would be a pretty good combination. All that said bringing in Dennison was the nail in the coffin. Daboll is definitely a step up from Dennison and I really feel like the OL and Allen's growing pains are fixable problems. The one thing Taylor didn't bring enough of that Allen seems to already have is that "clutch" factor. There's no real stat for it. Allen just seems to make his best and biggest plays late in games. Even the Cleveland game he made plays that could and should have won that game. I think that mixed with his physical talent make him good. Give him enough time with (hopefully) one offense (I'm alright with Daboll) and I think Allen can be the QB we thought we were drafting. ps I love it when people argue pass catchers not helping Allen like the guys we have now are not miles better than the guys Taylor threw to with Dennison here.

That said if the Brown's defender doesn't tip the screen on 1st down there's a good chance that Singletary takes that screen to the house and Daboll and Allen both look like the clutch game winners they were pulling out close games earlier this season. I'd also like to mention that as good as the goal line stands were the number of "chunk" plays we were giving up right out of the gate in this game were alarming. I think three quarters of the plays on the first two drives went for 10 plus yards against our defense. I'm all for bend and don't break but I think this was about the time McD took over play calling from Frasier last time this was happening.

This whole thing basically shows that it was a great play call but the pass was tipped. Is that what you were trying to say?

I can't be the only one who sees the irony that 3/4 of this board used to piss and moan that we didn't throw the ball enough as we led the league in rushing and scored roughly 24/25 points a game. Now we still have a QB who's probably more of a scoring threat running than passing and average under 20 points a game. I still think Allen will get better. I thought the problem then was horrible pass catchers and no defense and the problem now is mediocre OL talent and growing pains at QB. Hauscka choking in all the close games (NE and CLV) isn't helping.

If you scored 7 points in quarter 1 and 2 and 3 then you'd have 28 ppg. Pretty much makes my point.

If we could just see 4th quarter Allen all 4 quarters we'd be onto something. He seems to make a number of clutch plays late in games. He did it this week also but the other 3 quarters there's huge sequences where the offense can't do anything.

Roman has always been good. Has nothing to do with Harbaugh. Hell Roman was great here. We had a top ten offense every year Roman was here and scape goated him after we scored 31 in a losing effort and played terrible D. Roman was great in SF, great here, and clearly great in Baltimore also.

You want the Allen hate to end just start talking about how we'd probably be winning with Tyrod and they'll all love Allen again.

Who didn't know we are either going to play defense and make enough plays to win or we are going to lose? That is how McD is running this show. So when your offense gives you a lead with 3 minutes left and all you have to do is not give up a TD you have to point at the D. This is the engine of a McD team. Haushka is a close second because a low scoring defensive team better have a reliable kicker (and we seemingly don't). Allen actually did most of the things you'd want a QB on a conservative/defensive team to do. He gave them a lead in the 4th and didn't turn the ball over 5 times in this game.

He still plays pretty clutch in the 4th qtr. We scored the TD with 4 minutes left and moved the ball into FG range with under 1 minute left. The team as a whole seems to have trouble separating from other teams.

We were winning with 2 minutes left. Winning by more than a FG. We just needed to keep them out of the endzone.

Missing a 52 yarder is forgiveable. Missing a 34 yarder not so much. Haushka's misses (either of them) was the nail in the coffin.

Don't want to see Chubb in your end zone that's for sure.

Getting the ball run down your throat is less intimidating that team fumbles and immediately gets scored on.

While I completely agree with what you are saying here I still think Cleveland is less scary then a team like Philly which has good coaches but injuries. I think Cleveland has a better chance of continuing to make dumb mistakes and giving us a better chance. Mayfield seems to be having a tougher time this year but we still have to watch out for Chubb.

Every close game the Pats win it's always the same thing that gives them the edge. They do not make the dumb mistakes and all the other teams do. The Ravens gift wrapped most of the Pats points and so did we earlier this season.

Haven't read every post but I have to give Daboll an A. Hands down. He's not perfect but we have a running game. We have a passing game. We consistently have plays that work. We consistently move the ball. We make in game adjustments and you can see in game improvements (big for me). There are plays and sometimes parts of games that don't work but that happens to anyone. The reason we are not scoring more points at the moment are inconsistent QB play (to be expected with a second year QB) and turnovers. Both of these things should continue to improve over the course of the season. There is nothing worse than an OC who has a bad game plan and can't make adjustments after it's obvious nothing is working. Might be my favorite thing about him overall.

1)Allen doesn't take the sack. 2)Allen doesn't take the sack 3) Allen throws the ball more accurately on interception #2 (Jones was actually open) and it's a TD. 4)Someone recognizes the extra man in to rush the punt and puts a blocker on them. I thought I was watching a rerun most of the Pats/Giants game.

We stop them from scoring on special teams and we are 6 and 0 and we basically are the Pats.

A) Slayton needs to get that. B) Holy crap the Pats get to grab and pull at the WR's anywhere up and down the field. I'm cool with letting them play or calling it close but you have to do it both ways.

They have an incredible D and Maybe ............. or Maybe they have 2 less interceptions and have been sacked 5 more times with 2 more fumbles. I agree Jones is being a rookie and BB is playing that but Eli is pretty limited. Like Bledsoe in the Cowboy years.

Are we at 3 picks 2 fumbles and a special teams score yet?

Young QB holding the ball too long. Been there done that.

Seriously I can't crap on any of the Giants coaching tonight. Pats D is playing well, given that their DB's are allowed to be very physical, there's no place for Jones to go. Being a rookie he's forcing the ball at times. We are all familiar with that. Still the offense is moving the ball and the D is stopping them. Again with the Pats it's the mistakes that kill you.

So close to another strip sack ..................... ?