Richard Noggin

It's super dangerous to trade back out of the 1st with the intent to then pick a WR who might get nabbed in the 9-pick vacuum created by the move back... It's a weird spot to be in right now. Wish they weren't so transparent with their early draft needs.

Kinda effs up a lot of anti-returner/depth sentiments with actual results. But fans will always gripe against modest and under-the-radar FA signings.

Guys will see this and just say "Hell yeah"

That punt return was impactful, but yeah

I think it's the option-heavy complexity of Daboll's E-P fundamentals. New WRs tend to have trouble hitting the ground running. I think Allen has trouble with it from time to time as well. And/or Deonte Harty maybe isn't a great starting WR prospect overall.

Late to the thread (in recent days/pages) but $22/hr is around $45k/yr...THEREFORE you must be...joking?

Obviously McVay's offense WILL feature SOMEone in that ultra-productive Z/move-WR role, year after year. He's especially good at designing production. Give him a healthy Atwell and Cupp to go with Nacua, and you'll see fireworks. He IS entering the final year of his rookie deal, right? Will they pay BOTH OTs big money in 2025? After 2023, Brown isn't on a bargain FA RT trajectory (if he continues to develop or even if he just plateaus where he's at). Of course you'd prefer to see the org re-sign the guy they saw the value in and worked to develop. But you can't keep them all.

Can you elaborate on/clarify the initial trade up to 4 that does NOT include 28? Is the cost only 2025 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rd picks? To get to #4? The future picks value doesn't even come close. Maybe I'm missing info. Love to hear an outlier opinion like this -- can you say more?

Whether Glab's hot mic take was accurate or not was never really the issue for me, as much as "Team reporter gets caught absolutely blasting #1 WR's character and does NOT get fired for it."

Moved up for Thomas Jr using only a future 2nd and 4th. Gained back a 3rd and 4th later. Got 7 real dudes who "should" all make the roster and contribute year one. (Only wish IOL had made more sense when I was picking; major regret.)

If a defensive stud falls to 28 (like Chop Robinson below), we have to be open to the Bills letting the draft fall to them and maximizing value while adding great prospects at premier positions (DE, WR, etc). Ja'Lynn Polk at 60 is outstanding value for an unheralded guy who might be an awesome #2 type WR. This draft would benefit the org long term with a new favorite at LG, real rotational pieces at CB and DT and S and RB, and late round flyers on talented WR and OT. Could be eight guys who contribute meaningfully in first two years. LFG.

Was there for that one. Special moment, for sure. That game was stressful. The better team that day did not necessarily win. Actually reminded me a lot of that Sammy Watkins post-route snag (in Detroit against the Jets) many years prior. I happened to be at both games (family in Detroit area).

The text in red is probably going to inspire disagreement. WR should not be an "also" level need. It should be a primary need. Our most pressing need. Samuel and Shakir are fine pieces, but the Bills badly need an infusion of dangerous talent. In the draft, Thomas and Worthy and Legette best meet that criterium: dudes who can potentially make defenses adjust or pay. I think only 1 or 2 of them will be available at 28. But are Worthy and/or Legette good value at 28? Is a Newton or Robinson or DeJean too tempting? Will they then rely on a 2nd rd trade-UP to secure their X receiver of the present and future? "WR also" implies a kind of "we'll take whoever is still available at 60" kind of vibe that basically no one appreciates.

Your first bolded (by me) section is fascinating stuff that we rarely discuss. I think E-P (as installed by Daboll and then Dorsey) has actually been a detriment to this offense the past two seasons--its noted density and complexity and pre- and post-snap checks and options remind me of why Rex Ryan's defense was difficult for his Bills players to execute as the league evolved: it made players think and adjust and read and react more and more as opposing schemes disguised more and more...to the point that players who weren't many years deep in the system had difficulty playing fast and communicating well, leading to breakdowns. Gabe Davis, very notably, had continued issues reading coverages and altering his routes IN REAL TIME, IN SYNC WITH HIS QUARTERBACK. The fault could have been with his QB at times, for sure, and likely was. But it only seemed to happen often between those two (and consistently over the span of four years). Sanders was the other guy who came in and seemed to have some difficulty getting on the same page as Allen. So, good on you for even typing "Erhardt-Perkins." My most pressing reaction is that I think Brady will continue moving the Bills offense AWAY from what Daboll installed, and also then what Dorsey seemed to be unable to bend to his own vision (that 21 personnel some of us saw coming, and any kind of marriage between run and pass). Brady, we hope, continues to emphasize attacking all quadrants of the field with a mix of run and pass, of power and zone, of max protect and play-action and screens and vertical shots. The back half of last season hinted at a brand of balance and multiplicity that increases the Bills' chances of solving defensive riddles against top flight competition. But also, you CAN'T OVERLOOK Cooper in Cleveland (even though I don't care for the player), Allen in Chicago, Evans still in Tampa, Brown in Philly, Kelce in KC, etc. Your definition of "true #1" is probably too narrow. You're maybe defining a somewhat outdated, alignment-specific set of WR X or Z parameters, rather than a production-specific set of parameters.

Just wanna bump this absolute bull s#!t the Chiefs and PFN conspired to toss my way. I mean, it's amazing that this was offered at all. Just remarkable.

Like everyone else on the defense, he was hurt. But yeah he did fail to bounce back from that hurt and produce again.

Nah, leave it. Their love affair for the first two seasons was awesome to root for. The disappointment/failures of 13 seconds seems to be the inflection point; both guys were changed, as were fans. Maybe ALL for the worse. Diggs started Diggsing on the socials. Allen started introduced some serious disruptions in his personal affairs, which coincided with some on-field disruptions as well. This might have made Diggs get even Diggsier. And the fans did not take any of these disruptions in stride. The Allen-to-Davis fireworks leading up to the Billsy collapse had everyone's offensive expectations all out of whack. (Still so fascinating that Diggs was most notable in his absolute absence from that game.) Lots of blame to go around. But it was FUN while it lasted. Celebrate it.

Pro Football Network has Pritchett being a much later pick on average. His rankings have improved throughout the season, but he's still often available later on day three (usually right around where Cornelius Johnson is going, somewhere in the 190s). Insane value (so somewhat unrealistic) as I see it. I find many of the other mock draft sites way too trashed up with ads and popups and/or limited functionality for non-members.

Hadn't thought of Collins as a candidate to compete for the LG spot. Still don't tbh. That dude's an average starting RT (not an insult in this context), and so presumably an above average swing tackle. I know tackles bump inside easier than guards move outside, but of course not all OTs make good OGs. Dawkins, Brown, Collins, and Van Demark is a nice OT room. I say leave it at that and find the new starting LG among a pool of Edwards, Anderson, and a day two or three draftee. (Admittedly, I do quietly still think Dawkins would be an ELITE LG. But he's a pretty dang good LT, and now he's also really well paid for a while, so that's silly talk.)

I think doubling up at WR is just smart in a potentially elite WR pool when the team has such a need there. The S pool is not similarly stacked, but there are some guys and the Bills coaching staff seems to be better than average in developing secondary players. I say go heavy at both WR and DB and turn perceived weaknesses into strengths.

Nobody hates James Williams as much as FSU fans, from what I've seen online. Seems like a rocked up guy who just isn't great at football. Lack of instincts and athleticism seem like major red flags this high in the draft. As a sub-package LB the player MIGHT have value down the line, is my read. As evidenced by latest mock (above), I LOVE Thomas and Legette in first two rounds. Take a look at my mock above for how I'd prefer the Bills approach the rest of this "type" of draft.

My favorite mock draft to date. Only giving next year's 2nd and 3rd to move up to 20 and grab Thomas Jr in front of the Dolphins. WR room is now STACKED with Legette as well in rd 2. Love the way needs get filled with value throughout remainder of draft. I grade this one an A+ lol

Hey wtf is this trade offer? I'm flabbergasted. Man I hate the Chiefs

The time for spending both draft assets AND cap assets on an established WR is long gone... The Bills need to be focused on adding elite WR talent at a cost-controlled cap hit via the draft. The QB is mature enough to help raise youngins now. New plan.

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