ShakAttack

This happens every single year with Miami as others have pointed out, it is actually incredible, especially with the 8-3 start this year and with the amount of talent on offense, I thought they were a lock for the playoffs, even with their history of meltdowns in the latter half of the season. in fact, the ENTIRE afc East collapsed right around the same time. Not long ago we had an entire division sitting at 7-4 or better (or was it 7-3??) But when the smoke cleared, it was just another familiar looking AFC East standings , with Bills way ahead in first, and the Pats with a small shot at playoffs…

Well if he intends to be back for the playoffs, even more reason I hope we get the first round bye, and he has to play one less game, for his own sake

I would imagine that the most likely “retirement” scenario would be Morse coming back this season to ride out the playoffs, and then possibly retire during the off-season. I don’t think he would hang it up right now unless this particular concussion was different/worse than the others. He is a competitor, has put in the work all season to help the Bills get to where they are, and I would imagine his mind is set on a championship like most of our players. If this happened at the beginning of the season, that’s o another thing, but I think it’s too close to the playoffs for him to turn back now. I’d be surprised to see that, but not so surprised to see him retire in the off-season.

my gut feeling is that it has to be someone in the passing game, and that’s because I think Josh Allen is going to show out. Allen, being the perfectionist that he is, has probably put more focus and mental preparation into this game than any other because you know the first meeting left a bad taste in his mouth and he’s always seemed to bounce back from similar situations in his career. Patriots last year comes to mind first. They beat us in the first meeting. Allen was unable to deliver at the very end of the game. And pats have had no answer for him ever since that night. now, I know it is easier said than done with the EXTREMELY talented defense that the Jets have, but I think the Bills find a way this time around, and hopefully the refs don’t let Sauce get away with blatant pi because sadly that will be a factor as well. anyway , if Allen is having a big game, I’m going with his “go to” Stefon Diggs as this week’s impact player. Kind of surprised I’m not seeing his name much. I guess it’s the respect for Jets Corners?

It’s interesting because in previous weeks the spread would start high in our favor and then little by little trend down until kickoff, but not this week. I am thinking the way we beat the Pats was convincing and it was the type of win people had been waiting for and expecting since we started the season.

How tf has the spread stayed at Bills -9.5 to bills -10 all week?? Everywhere I look people are taking Jets +9.5/10 (even though the vast majority still have Bills winning) but if most of the money is coming in on the Jets, doesn’t that usually influence the spread? this has been the most mind boggling Bills spread of the year for me. Jets have a stingy defense that has kept almost all of their games close I believe, also proved to be the TOUGHEST defense Allen has had to deal with so far, their offense has improved with Mike White and they’re also healthy. So, I keep looking at this thinking I am missing something…. Shrug…. All I can say is I hope they’re right!!!

One thing I love (hate) about this team is how whenever there's an injury nobody gives us anything of substance. They don't tell us sh*t and that just makes it worse for me because in between games, all I ever do is obsess over our injuries.

But we are also undefeated when Poyer is out there. Something's gotta give on Sunday.

Crowder has always been a good player when healthy. The problem is, he gets hurt a lot. I actually thought he was out for the year until about 2 minutes ago reading through this thread, so I'm taking this as some much needed good news today.

We can't replace Von. There is no sugar coating it. That said, we are still a pretty good defense without Von, when healthy. What we need is one of our young guys to turn into the guy that makes big plays in big moments. I'm not counting on it, but that's what we need for the playoffs, because that situation will most likely come up. The reason I don't count on it happening is because that is what separates the elite defenders from the rest, and most teams do NOT have a Von Miller / Aaron Donald / Micah Parsons / Myles Garrett. That said, I remember a few years ago, I believe 2019, there were a few games in which I recall our secondary closing out games with 4th quarter interceptions. We might not find the "big moment" pass rusher on our roster anymore, but Jordan Poyer and Tre White could make the big play in the secondary...... We did not have White OR Miller last year in the playoffs obviously. At least we will have one of them now.... I think. Anyway, a couple wins against the Jets and Dolphins will certainly have us feeling like this defense can get it done against playoff caliber teams without Von Miller, and I really want to be convinced of that as a Bills fan, so.. while I may not be expecting the blowout against the Jets that Vegas is putting out there, if we can be the first defense this season to slow down Mike White and the resurgent Jets offense, that should go a long way towards our confidence in this "new" defense.

you’re not wrong, but it does kinda suck knowing that Miller forced the game winning Int against KC in the regular season. He was doing what we brought him here to do. Someone else is going to need to fill that void. Who is going to be that playmaker when the defense needs a stop in the playoffs?

When we had all these injuries on defense this year I would constantly think to myself “Von is the guy we can always depend on to stay healthy. He’s a true pro and knows how to take care of his body”. And then, With one mis-step, he is done. Just like that. I hate ACL injuries. And what makes this even worse is knowing Von had been making the game changing plays we brought him here to make. This would be a LOT easier to digest if he was underperforming

It was a failed attempt at a joke. I love Big Phil and what he brings to the defense and he is one of those guys that I will check up on for an injury update 10-20 times a day, which is what prompted me to make a thread in the first place. The whole "just barely" (important enough) thing only crossed my mind because it was the morning after the game and it seemed like hardly anyone on the board was talking about it, which was a bit of a surprise, to me. Then I realized, the guys that got their own injury thread so far this season were..... Micah Hyde.... Jordan Poyer.... Josh Allen.... I think you understand where I'm at. But again, just to clarify.... HUGE fan of Big Phil here and I would really hate to lose him against the Jets. I think if we can put the same defense on the field against the Jets as we did vs the Pats, the Jets offense WILL struggle. Hopefully the Bills having a few extra days will also help.

Josh Allen is the only one that said he was “fine” and ended up not missing any time…. but he’s also The Man.

I don’t think this has its own thread yet, and I think Phillips is important enough to deserve his own thread (but just barely). Anyway, is there any information about this Shoulder injury? all I know is it apparently happened on his whiffed dive attempt to sack Mac Jones at the 2 minute warning…. and that he was in a sling after the game… Is there any other info at this time?? The fact it was bad enough to be in a sling makes me think he could be missing time And on a side note, seriously tired of all these injuries that occur on the final drive of the game (whether offense or defense’s last drive)

I hate that you make some great points here. But if so many doctors agree that the video seems to indicate ACL tear, I just want to know where and how the heck Rappaport and others in media got their reports so quickly that it was a “sprain” most likely.

Saw all this stuff too. So we basically have: 1. The "online doctors" claiming it's likely ACL based on watching videos. 2. Rappaport saying it's most likely a sprain (based on his sources that had to come from someone close to the Bills team as opposed to someone watching a video) So I guess I'll be cautiously optimistic too.

did Tre? Cant remember

Where? I could use some relief too. EDIT- I see some reports now as well, but they also did not rule out a more serious injury. So it's still "Who knows"

Yeah I don't know. When that's all there is to go off of right now (besides the video itself) it's easy to potentially overthink the situation, but it definitely left a bad impression, and I know it wasn't just me picking up on that, so I guess we will see. Hoping it's a sprain & fingers crossed.

Since nothing definitive has been reported, the only thing I've seen so far is Miller's demeanor after the injury and on the cart. I get the sense that Miller is an athlete that probably understands his body very well, and for a guy that claims to "find the positives in everything" he looked REALLY glum. Almost as if... it was something he couldn't put a positive spin on. Again, that's really all I can possibly go off of from what we've seen, but it wasn't a good look

Wondering if there is even a best case scenario with this injury. Smh

So let me get this straight: last week Tre was ruled out by McDermott the Friday before the game this week, day before game, he has not been ruled out So there’s a chance…..??? nah not getting my hopes up (….but there is, right? from what we know)

I am 75% Iranian and I was old enough to witness Iran vs. USA in the 1998 World Cup. USA is my "second" team, since it is where I was born and raised, after all, but I became obsessed with the Iranian national team in 1998 for many of the same reasons I became a Buffalo Bills fan as a kid growing up: They were the ultimate underdog. And since the Buffalo Bills have never won a Super Bowl, and since they lost "13 seconds" and every other miraculous playoff game we have played in involves us losing in the end (besides "The Comeback" which I vaguely remember but was just a bit too young to fully appreciate, Iran's win over the U.S. in 1998 would probably have to rank as my favorite moment as a sports fan. I say "probably" because the moment we ended the playoff drought on Andy Dalton's 4th down TD to Tyler Boyd just might actually have it beat. And if we were on the winning end of "13 seconds" it would have been no contest at all... That would have been my greatest sports moment of all-time... In fact, it is kind of sad because after Allen tossed the go-ahead TD with 13 seconds left, I ran around the house yelling something along the lines of "THIS IS THE BEST MOMENT IN MY LIFETIME AS A BILLS FAN!!!!!!!!" Anyway... Where am I going with all of this... All of this is to say... MAN... the Saudi Arabia upset over Argentina today was just miraculous. In 2014, Iran lost to Argentina 1-0 and it was celebrated by the country as if they won; the most impressive match they had ever played. It really feels like Saudi Arabia accomplished what Iran was unable to pull off that day. It's just not supposed to happen! I mean, 100% of the Saudi roster plays for Saudi club teams, while Argentina is essentially an international all-star team. Every now and then the question comes up "Can a really good college FB team beat the worst NFL team?" And almost always the answer is a resounding "NO" But I think what happened today in the World Cup was the the soccer equivalent of a college FB team beating a pro team... And that is just incredible. Indeed, Argentina blew it, but once the Saudis had the lead, I could not believe some of the saves made by the goal-keeper to hang on, especially the save in the 100th minute... WOW.... It's kinda funny, I'm a more casual soccer fan and I do not follow the sport year-round, but every 4 years when the World Cup returns, I am quickly reminded why it is my 2nd favorite sport to watch. There are some remarkable moments in this sport.