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He had three tackles yesterday...Watkins isnt going to break 1k or 60 receptions. It will be ok.

No, because if you follow the draft enough you know this happens every year. Next year is always the better class until its not. IMO you cant decide if a class is over or underrated until the players start some games in the NFL.

I dont think the awards matter in terms of draft stock. Based on team need I think he has a realistic shot of going in the top ten. Will depend on if GMs favor him to Lamar Jackson. Regardless he should be a 1st round pick.

I will not be surprised at all if he is let go and McCoy is hired.

The Bills no longer have the fear advantage. It was much easier to sell tickets to meaningless games in December when people had the specter of losing their team hanging over their heads. Reality sets in a bit more when the romantic ideal of supporting your team to show them how much you care is gone. All of us still care, we wouldnt be on a message board otherwise. The tickets may only cost six dollars a piece, but add parking a few beers and some food to the equation and you still end up with a close to $75 dollar outing. May not be a lot to some of you, but when it's around Christmas and you have other things to spend your money on watching a 6-6 team with the slim hopes of being in the playoffs play a 3-9 team in the snow doesnt sound that appealing. The league tried to do the Bills a favor by making the Patriots games later in the season but it still didnt shake out.

But would you agree then that correlation to height and the ability to play quarterback is a result not of smaller players inability to play the position, but rather the predilection of coaches to place players at a position based on their size regardless of the fact that the predisposition may not necessarily be based on statistical fact? Reminds me of when Moss and Owens were killing the league at wideout. Suddenly everyone wanted giant receivers, so you end up with Devin Thomas, James Hardy, Malcolm Kelly and Limas Sweed being mentioned in the same conversation as Desean Jackson. Or when the league suddenly wanted smaller faster defensive ends like Dwight Freeney, and you get Aaron Maybin in the first round. My point is, size, especially when you're talking inches should really take a back seat to who is the best player at their position.

Yeah they rounded up. He was measured at 72 3/4. Using that method Manziel would have been 6'0 as I believe he was 71 3/4. Its amazing how quarters of an inch can cost a guy hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Technically three. Tyrod measured below 73 inches at the combine.

I agree on your point about the comparisons to those quarterbacks, I dont think that makes sense to do for anyone who hasnt played a down in the league yet. I guess I just dont know what else the kid has to do to prove he is worthy of being a 1st round pick. I dont know if he will be good in the NFL any better than I do Rosen, Darnold, Jackson etc but he is the most elite player at his position in coll ege football and he hasnt done it in a gimmicky fashion. What is incredibly irritating is to see players like Josh Allen and Clayton Thorson rated above him because they are 6'5. Literally saw a national columnist from CBS say yesterday he wasnt on the Mayfield train because he wants to wait and see what he does in the CFB Playoffs. Seriously man? The kid has played 47 games to this point and won 83% of them including some really impressive games against great defenses, including games in the CFB Playoffs. Again, I have no problem with someone not hitching their wagon to him as you say, but lets be real if anyone tries to pretend its because of his play on the field they are full of it.

In regards to your statement here statistics need to be measured and compared in a normalized fashion to tell the actual story, mainly because your discounting the fact that an immense number of players who are taller than 6'2 have been massive failures as well. The more true statement is players under 6'2 just dont really get a chance to show their worth in the NFL. For instance since 2010 (not including this year) 85 quarterbacks have been drafted, of those only seven players have been 6'1 or less. Still, within that group of seven, two players have proven to be either a viable NFL starter (Tyrod Taylor) or a NFL superstar (Russell Wilson) thats 28%, or if you want to look at it pessimistically a 72% failure rate. On the flip side 78 players have been drafted who were 6'2 or greater and of those players only 13 became viable starters or superstars, 16% or a 84% failure rate. I would say this stat tells us one of two things, A. Height doesnt matter at all or B. NFL GMs are so blind they dont realize their is no magic height/weight formula for a franchise quarterback and it really should be looked at on a player by player basis. And on the point about Mayfield being 5'9, whoever had those rumblings either has an agenda against Mayfield or hasnt watched one OU game. When he stands next to his RB Rodney Anderson who happens to be 6'2 he isnt dwarfed in the manner someone 5'9 would be.

Even if this ends up being a good hire Cleveland looks stupid right now. Did they interview anyone else? Did they have Sashi reinterview seconds after firing him to meet the Rooney Rule? Cant wait to hear the tape recording.

I have this odd feeling they will sign McCaron in free agency in an attempt to win now and save face with Hue. I think its the wrong move but Cleveland usually cant get out of its own way, so it wouldnt be surprising.

I absolutely am not kidding. Despite the lack of great quarterback play the Browns have put together a nice roster. There are plenty of coaches who get teams to a .500 record despite a quarterback, take for instance the last five years here in Buffalo. What the Browns are left with now is coach who has won 1 game in the last two years, and who also seems to have major sway with ownership. Maybe I am way off, but if I am a General Manager I want to hire my guy, not someone who has shown he has an agenda. If they hire a new guy he better be on board with Hue Jackson do or die, because his entire first year as a GM will be a wash. With the ownership they have in place, whoever they hire as GM now, if they have to keep Hue will be on the seat in a year looking to hire a new head coach.

Oh yeah, he has that UT tie with the owner. I mean you never know. Hue better hope the next GM is willing to be patient. I honestly thought they would see this through. They have a stellar defense right now with tons of young talent on the offense. But they made a huge mistake not building around a quarterback first and foremost.

I agree. If you sign up for a long term process you have to see it through for 3-4 years before you make a move like this. I dont see how Hue Jackson survives this year, and furthermore I dont see who is going to sign up for this s show moving forward.

Season opener of the 1994 season against the Jets. My Grandfather took my brother, my rabid Jets fan Uncle, and I. We ate PBJ for tailgate, the Bills lost 23-3 and someone spilled a beer on my brother's head. I dont remember a thing about the game, but fondly remember the names being spewed at my Uncle walking back through the parking lot.

I can see a scenario where they both end up top twenty picks, say 14th and 18th. At that point you probably only need to trade the 14th pick in the 1st round, and pick 60 in the 2nd to move up to 8th. If they can find a away to pick in the top ten and still keep two 1st round picks I think thats a huge huge win.

Is anyone else baffled at the amount of times Watkins has come up? Physically gifted for sure, but he is on pace for 41 catches this year. Kyle Williams is the main guy for this. Spikes and McCoy would be the other two but both played in other cities and made it to the playoffs.

Agree. Id take him in a second if I was a GM. But fact is height scares these guys off. Cant wait to see wherr he goes.

I finished 1st in my low money ten team league, which has a bye and 2nd in my 12 team big money league no bye. Hate not having a bye in that league, doesnt really pay to finish 1st or 2nd.

His size is a big concern but I dont think Ive enjoyed watching a college player more. The throws down the seam where only his wideout can get it are beautiful to watch.

He was a good start last week. Have the same dilemma this week, 2nd place overall and no bye in our league. I think Ill let it roll.

I also have a list of coach rankings using statistics. Its called the division standings and it doesnt include Jay Gruden in the top ten.

If it was 1999 I'd agree, but unless they draft a quarterback it's not going to happen. They scored a bunch of touchdowns on defense this year, and that my friend is an anomaly. If they get Eli next year maybe they continue the run, but I would be willing to bet they are far worse next year.

Hope he also enjoys the S Sandwhich he gets next year when Luck and Watson are both back.