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Well he’s played really well since that point. The guy just stepped in on an awful team and helped them to 5 straight wins to close the season. Pretty hard to overlook that.

Right. And then he proceeded to start in 5 straight wins for what was arguably the 2nd worst team in the nfl. lefs not pretend that shouldn’t change his value. I would much rather move for a guy like jimmy g as opposed trading both picks away to move up in the draft. That all being said I don’t believe for a second that any of these rumors are true.

that was a Thursday nighter I believe. the last MNF win though? I have no clue

how does this even come up in a thread like this? this is honestly pretty pathetic and speaks volumes. like, what exactly is the point of this in a thread talking about scheduling where literally nobody has even hinted towards talking about the qb. pretty sad.

yes

Now this is solid reasoning to legitimately move on. Your first statement just wasn’t very accurate. This is a whole different can of worms here. And makes much more sense.

This is just a lazy and inaccurate assessment. His career record is 43-27. He’s had a 40 td season and another with 31. 3-3 in the playoffs with an appearance in the afc title game is hardly getting schooled. It’s also universally known he’s had little help from any other unit on his teams.

my thing is most of the people who probably voted "no" here are also ones that were probably saying all season how they wouldn't let their guard down and enjoy it until they finally saw the playoffs........ so when exactly did they get to enjoy anything about this year? I honestly don't know why some people are fans becuz from what I see they don't seem to let themselves have any real fun with it. I thoroughly enjoyed the season as a whole. I let myself buy into the team early. I got disappointed midseason. and then I let myself buy into the fact that we still had a shot at the playoffs week In and week out to close the season. and then I enjoyed a trip to J-ville to watch it play out. i'm also still happy we made it. most exciting season in years. and all some people did was gripe and moan the whole time. I agree its ok to acknowledge the bills have plenty of holes. but my question is..... if you don't allow yourself to enjoy the season becuz you don't wanna be "fooled again" and then you don't bask in it a bit afterwards, whats the point???? the bills made the playoffs for the first time in 17 years and there are plenty of fans, becuz of how they handled the season, that literally only enjoyed about a week of it. that's absurd and must plain miserable if ya ask me.

McCarron has literally never won a playoff game. If you are gonna say something is easy you need to at least know what you are talking about.

this is AWESOME.... anytime I see something like this it hits home for me. my father, while riding, had a horse come over backwards on him. the horn of the saddle punctured a lung and his middle vertebrate were basically pulverized in pieces..... it took 3 weeks for a toe wiggle. 2 months for a walker and then another 6 months before he was walking without the assistance of a cane. he'll never be the same but he can at least get around. the scary part about these back injuries is doctors really have no clue how these recoveries will go or how long they will take. sometimes progress is made over YEARS, and the unknown is terrifying. every couple of days I check in on this situation and it warms my heart to see his standing.

he's had a serious influence on plenty though.

lol.... it was common knowledge they would be the front runners for anyone that had sense or a tv..... you didn't "report" anything.

I think he's accumulated the resume but I wont be surprised when he doesn't get in.

I think we'll be having this same convo about frank gore in 20 years. unreal consistency. consistently good. NOT GREAT. he'll be a top 5 rusher when all is said and done and I doubt he'll ever get in. always very good. but he only had one season where he was really at the top of the position. the rest he was just a very good consistent player.

that's just massive.... you're right, I think the nfl voters take postseason play into account BIG TIME. and those numbers are NUTS. I already stated in a prior post that I don't think aikman or Irvin even get thought of for the hall if they didn't have the post-season success they had. especially aikman. both their cumulative numbers over their careers don't stack up very well over other HOF players of their era's.

ricky has a huge gripe as well.... he was a jerk to the media and I think that's what screwed him.

well whatever.... a bunch of others that vote on it apparently disagree. if davis never got in I would have understood it. but I totally get why he's in as well. I think the 2 superbowls have something to do with it as well. I don't believe Michael Irvin or aikman get in if they don't have 3 titles. their numbers, especially aikmans, are dwarfed by other HOF players of that era.

go look at sayers. nobody is arguing he shouldn't be in. davis ran for 2000 yds in a season and sat out enough 4th quarters that year that it equaled missing a whole game. he had a 4 year stretch that was unheard of. some players get in on longevity and consistency(art monk comes to mind) while others have gotten in on short term, insanely dominant, impacts. generational talents that were the best of their brief times. so good that they left a large impact that cant be ignored. agree to disagree I guess.

I think craig has a very valid argument but I cant disagree with davis being in. you cant talk about the nfl of the mid to late 90's without him. he had as dominant a stretch as a runner has ever seen. its very similar to gale sayers short lived dominance and HOF spot.... just to impactful to ignore.

seriously? i'm not trying to be a jerk but did you even look at the link you just provided? lol. they have stars at some key spots. david Johnson is phenomenal. he led the nfl in scrimmage yds in 16. chandler jones just led the nfl in sacks with 17. tyrann matheiu is a star. Patrick Peterson is arguably the best corner in the nfl.... their defense was 6th in the nfl last year in total yards. they just went 8-8 while missing arguably the best rb in the nfl for the whole season and their starting qb for 9 games. they are completely set up to win. they finished the season 5-4 with Stanton and gabber. I just pray that wherever he goes it creates a trade opening for the bills in the draft.

I think Zona fits in there too edit: I think others had responded with the same thing. Sorry for the redundance

off the top of my head 5 or 6 went there in 83 I think

he wasn't in the nfl yet. i'm surprised you didn't know that. you're not usually wrong on football matters..... (NO SARCASM HERE AT ALL)

yes.... becuz, like saviorpete just said, he's exactly the player brees was coming out of college. both were Heisman finalists. oh wait..... LOL.

you would think if it was that big of a priority maybe they would try and find a return man worth a crap....