Stank_Nasty

brand new staff. massive roster turnover. then STILL breaking the drought and making the playoffs and giving the team postseason experience.... all while accruing ammo in the draft to go up and get a qb they deem fit to carry on the momentum.... how could anyone wish for a tank in that situation. I've heard a couple people talk that way and it disgusts me. this last year was the definition of having your cake and eating it too. it was the most enjoyable season I've had from start to finish(not just that last week) in my 32 years and the future is looking bright. cant ask for a lot more.

right. and i'd have to say if they land cousins its them and philly as the favorites.... on paper at least. windows come and go quickly in the nfl, it seems. they need to maximize their chances. they have an elite roster and are getting Dalvin cook back in the lineup. they have the potential to be scary good for a short time here.

I'm fairly certain his last name was henry and he was taken by TENN even though they had plenty of talent in the backfield already..... and that was that.

I personally think foles was in the perfect situation on that team and with those coaches. that's a dream staff to work with if you are a qb..... and a really good team all around. haha! my first thought when I read was "They're freaking HIGH!"

NO. FREAKING. WAY.

duuuudddeee. easy now.... a lot of qb's could have went 7-5 with that defense and where the offense was routinely getting the ball. orton did a serviceable job considering his circumstances but if a qb couldn't win games with that 14 defense they just suck. I sure did enjoy watching him basically come in with what looked to not be a care in the world and have some nice games here and there though. definitely had a fun bravado about him and it was a cool story.

I would assume this was cumulative effect of a couple months of chasing reps and developing spotty movement patterns during his sessions chasing said reps. like you said. this is light weight for large mammal like that. I don't necessarily think it was the weight that did it, as it was most like a glitch in his mechanics over months...... which, like you pointed out earlier, are usually compromised with any barbell pressing movement. as the local fitness pro in my area I work 2 different high school football teams and a wrestling squad. as well as training a handful of the athletes personally.... In the summer programs I have to bang into these kids heads that they don't need to be hammering out the bench and chasing numbers there.... if we do its a closer medium to shoulder width grip for the lineman and its mostly velocity and dynamic work at submaximal loads. hopefully its not to serious and doesn't nag him for awhile. tough break.

geez man. please go back and read...... he had initially stated he wouldn't be giving them a dime to go to games if taylor was qb.... I then said that if he had been going to the games in orchard park to spend his money that I didn't witness any real awful money wasting games this year. he then said he played awful on the road AND at home. I then went on to refute that... as a general rule taylor WASNT good enough this year. but he played well at home. which was my initial point when he said he wouldn't be going to any games. I had assumed he meant in orchard park becuz that's where most bills fans go to watch the games. get it now?

these were just his home games.... that was the argument. he said he played awful all year at home.... that wasn't the case. taylor had just as many bad games as solid ones.... i'm over him. lets move on. I was ready to do that last year at this time. but when somebody says he was awful all year at home or away, that's just not true. so I went and got the numbers for the home games. 2 of which were downright HORRIBLE, while the rest were average to fairly good.

THANK YOU! i'm glad somebody caught all that.

oh geez..... nobody seriously wants anyone to get hit by freaking car! it most definitely wasn't intended to wish death on anyone man. its something my buddies and I say to one another all the time. obviously the tone is lost online. I went ahead and took it off.... on a serious note it wasn't meant to be malicious

hey.... you're right..... see how easy that is? when you're wrong.... ya just admit it. its spelling. which I foolishly lumped in with grammar....... do ya get the point though? have a nice day man

right.... when you need to start picking stuff like that out its obviously done. you're all class. lets pick out grammar and lay broad statements and when somebody refutes it with actual evidence we'll just say "nope, i'm right. just becuz..... i'm really sure it was hard to get my message because of the fact I used "becuz". grammar shaming is seriously the lamest last ditch option. just makes me laugh. good call though. nice work. I could 13 yrs old and it still wouldn't change the fact that you were wrong on what I pointed out. EDIT: its spell shaming. what an idiot I must be.

uh. ya. it is. good talk, bruh.

just you and gugs.... your gif game is always strong though i'll give you that. carry on

if you walked away from most of the home games I cited and felt he played awful. then no..... the bolded is 100% inaccurate. and just so i'm reading this right...... becuz they didn't win BECAUSE of him he played awful? I just wanna make sure we are on the same page here. plus i'd like to know just how far gone you are.

my stance hasn't changed on this no matter what they've said. I think there is hardly any chance of taylor playing for the bills next year. I can only hope it doesn't draw out for a long time and they sign their vet with the first couple of days so they can let taylor and that bonus walk. right.... he's mos definitely their "fallback chick" right now.

look at those numbers. team it with the W's.... and then with a straight face tell me he played awful at home. you were wrong. its fine. you didn't do any sort of leg work. you made a blanket statement and it was wrong. deal with it..... the irony is you calling me the "man-child" dude..... it just makes you look foolish. he didn't play awful at home as a general rule. that's the bottom line. you can not like taylor, be ready to move on and at least still be accurate and fair.

so they win... he has solid numbers..... but he played awful..... riiigghhhhtttt...... and i'm the "man-child". that's rich.

well that was a errant message that I was in the middle of. somehow my fingers hit post before any of it was done..... go look at the numbers for his home games and you literally cannot fabricate that he played bad..... no need to be a complete jerk.... but I get it. its sorta your thing. week 1 vs jets- 262 total yds, 2td, 1 int, 92 rating.... putrid right? week 3 vs den- 226 total yds 2 td, 0 int, 126 rating..... another awful game right? week 6 vs tampa- 321 total yds, 1 td, 0 int 96 rating..... soooo bad right? week 7 vs raiders- 166 total yds, 2td, 0 int, 101 rating.... awful? not really? week 9 vs NO- 56 yds, 0 td, 1int..... he seriously was awful that day for sure week 12 vs pats- 65 pass yds, 0td, 1int.... again. seriously bad. week 15 vs fins- 266 total yds, 2 td, 0int, 94 rating..... another awful one I guess? I'm ready to move on. personally I don't care who the vet is next year. that means nothing to me becuz its all about whomever they draft and their development. but what I wont do is make false statements to prove why. maybe before being a complete jag-off you actually do some research next time.

I mean.... they went 6-2 at home and then snuck into the playoffs.... unless you were going to away games how much crap football did you actually catch in orchard park? I got to see NY, DEN, and Miami and never walked out thinking.... man i'm not giving these guys another dime. though i'll admit i'd never drive 15 hours to a playoff game again. lets not pretend like they were awful last year or the qb played awful at home as a general rule.... that just wasn't the case. oh the horror of sitting through another potential 9-7 season with our new rookie waiting in the wings to take over! kill me now! all that being said. I just hope they find a reliable vet to sign in the first day or 2 of free agency before tyrods bonus is due and we can move on and then it wont get talked about anymore.... doesn't matter what vet is starting the season next year. its all about the draft and hopefully getting the guy they want.

Most teams need to see and experience the playoff atmosphere first before they make their run. I have no clue how you couldn’t be happy for the team to get playoff experience while adding draft capitol for 2018. I think last year was an absolute success for the present and the future. I’m sorry you didn’t get to enjoy it. People that are happy about the playoff birth are also capable of thinking about the long term as well. it’s possible to enjoy last year, recognize it was a step in the right direction, and still want a Super Bowl. I literally don’t know how you can look back at last year after having a brand new staff, the talent they unloaded, the draft capitol they got, and then the run to the playoffs they made and say.... “eh whatever. Wish we had lost more games”. IMO that’s absolutely crazy... and sorta disgusting to me honestly. I’m not trying to be a jerk. But it is to me. Losing isn’t the only way to get there man. In fact I would argue this years model is a more stable version. If a fan cant sit back and enjoy last season after 17 years I honestly don’t understand the point of watching at all.

building bridges..... I like this..... its healthy.

this is a really fair point. and as a guy that has gone to bat for taylor quite a bit.... I don't think he could find a level of play good enough to quell the benching talks all together. which goes back to your "band aid" point.