Stank_Nasty

right. the "dime a dozen" argument drives me nuts. sure a 900-1000 yd back for a season is a dime a dozen. but gamechangers.... ELITE backs are far from a dime a dozen and you have to grab them early. if anything a passing game makes shady a complete NIGHTMARE(even more so than he is now) for opposing defenses. the guy is lethal in space. if teams had to back off and give him that space..... good lord it would be a thing to behold.

shady could be a whole different sort of monster with a better passing game freeing him up therefore i'd have to strongly disagree with this.

#5 is really the biggest point here. And the one the “anyone but Tyrod” maniacs can’t seem to grasp. Does it really matter who the qb is next year as long as the bills get their guy in the draft this spring? I keep seeing “I can’t sit through another year of Taylor. Blah blah blah..... uhhh I could totally sit through another competitive playoff push knowing a rookie is developing and waiting patiently to take over. Other than cousins does anyone truly honestly believe any of the vet qb’s out there push the bills past 9 or 10 wins?

Hahaha. My dad used to do that with me as a kid on trips to VA beach. Thinking back..... sounds about right. Lololol

Fair point. Foles is in a unique environment with qb conducive coaching. I don’t think of him what a lot of people might. He’s was in a perfect storm having coaches willing to work with your strengths(both former pro qb’s) and having an amazing squad all around him. I believe Wentz is the real deal but put those 2 on a lot of other teams, ESPECIALLY FOLES, and I don’t believe they produce at that level. Foles not even close. We’ve seen it i wouldnt mind mccown FTR. I just don’t go around here needlessly bashing Taylor to prove why. It would be a fairly lateral move. But he would be cheaper so there’s that. But whatever.

It’s a Horse a piece. Whatever. Why all the fuss over marginal differences? If the bills go 9-7 with mccown what’s the difference? They aren’t going anywhere either. And be honest. They wouldn’t do any better than that record most likely. I get it.... anyone but Tyrod right? Sorry. That’s dumb. Other than cousins all the others are just a jumble of mediocrity. None of them are taking buffalo through the playoffs. Get real. Its all about how fast the rookie develops. If it’s 18 that’s freaking awesome. It’s probably all about 2019 though. People are just pissy becuz they don’t wanna see Tyrod again and apparently don’t realize that no other vet, other than cousins, has any legitimate shot at taking them any further. Im fine with moving on from Tyrod. But not just for the sake of it. Thankfully I think the FO has some common sense and doesn’t think like the “anyone but Tyrod” maniacs around here. They’ll either land a viable qb to keep them competitive or they’ll keep him. If he stays I’m perfectly fine with a team that will be contending for a playoff spot again while the rookie either takes the job by the end of the season or 2019.

Hence the statement about the draft.... let’s not pretend any other vet in the free agency crop is a guarantee to come in and do much better. If at all. Lots of winners in that FA crop right??? Come on man. Again... I don’t really care who the vet is next year. That means little to me. If whomever it is can sneak in another playoff berth I’m ALL for it. The draft is what concerns me. And if you were actually thinking higher and long term it would be the case for you as well.

I could easily deal with another 9-7 season while a prized rookie sits the bench and learns or earns the job in year one. Dont really care who the qb is that delivers it.

The worst part is drudged up most of the sludge when he bumped it. Some real “winners” came blazing in Like sharks to blood in the water.

until the fins game right after that....... man those were some frustrating games to watch.

having a coach that just ended a 17 year stooper after an offseason with massive roster turnover and inconsistent play from basically every unit makes me not worry too much about his future. he did just fine. lets go ahead and look at a whole seasons worth of work as opposed to taking a single situation IN A WIN and worrying about the future becuz of it.. geez.

right. which is why I didn't agree with the call. we are on the same page there..... but at least get the facts right. you didn't. I, unlike you apparently, understand why he did it and the reasoning behind it. I don't agree with it but it ultimately worked. I agree. and joe webb doesn't help matters.... I didn't agree with the call. but I get it.

which i'm perfectly fine with for another year while the rookie learns or even takes the job.

bolded literally isn't true at all. the bills were on the indy 41. had they gone and not gotten it indy, even if they don't move the ball, can pin buffalo DEEP. the way it shook out indy had to punt from around the 20 or 25 if i'm not mistaken and the bills had very manageable field position. around the their own 35 I believe. not optimal but much better than inside the 10 or 15. I literally just said I didn't like the call to punt but I get his reasoning. he was banking on his punter and defense and playing field position for a final drive. and you need to at least get you facts straight.

fair enough. you'll still watch. my bad.... i'm assuming you didn't enjoy the playoff season this year just becuz taylor was the qb? yikes. sorry about you're luck. it was the most enjoyable season I've witnessed as an emotionally invested adult. and the bolded is what you gleaned from watching Peterman? geez man. just becuz he's made a couple throws tyrod wont pull the trigger on.... you are right about that! I saw 5 in one half. you see a couple of flashy throws and all of sudden he's a upgrade. and i'm perfectly confident that no matter who the vet qb is next year they will be drafting their guy. unless its a high profile vet and I think we can all agree that's a slim chance.

the bolded makes me know you are just being difficult for the sake of it now. if you watched the games and who was playing and what they've done in other stints you would know the answer to this as well..... but I hey. I get it. you wanna be difficult for the sake of it becuz ..... tyrod taylor.

I actually didn't like the call but the bolded is just a really silly statement.... it was a blizzard. the defense was playing well. the colts not moving it had little to do with luck there and i'm sure that factored into the decision.

good lord. quit it. this doesn't surprise me anymore though. I'm fairly certain that you said earlier in this thread you wouldn't watch a game all year if taylor was back. have fun with that. i'll enjoy another season of them being in the playoff hunt instead of tanking... all while probably having an elite prospect waiting on the bench for 19. sign me up. i'm perfectly fine with moving on from taylor. but not just for the sake of it. and most definitely not for #2 up there! thankfully I think the bills FO doesn't think like the maniacs on this board and isn't going "we just need anyone but tyrod... and we don't care what that means"

he didn't take only his best games. he took the games where he actually had legit nfl starters at the wr position...... why exactly are you having such a hard time separating that for you "best games" theory. the proof was in the pudding. when the guy had his starting talent out there he produced. and can you actually say without cracking a smile there have been more than a handful of qb's in the last 3 seasons that have routinely dealt with so many injuries and lack of talent at the wr positon as the bills have?

Massive roster turnover. Brand new coaching staff..... and then playoffs in the first year. And you are “ready to jump”. Good lord. The stupidity of your posts never gets old. You just keep coming up with new ways of amazing me with how awful it is. I literally care nothing about how harsh or jerkish that may come off. you are just absolutely RIDICULOUS. It it doesn’t matter who the vet qb is next year as long as they draft their guy this spring. I dunno how you can’t grasp that concept.

bills figure out a way to bring in an average vet like Bradford, mccown..... or dare I say even keep the one we have if it comes to that.... bills make the move to 5 with the broncos and take Mayfield and he beats out any of the said vets. that's my perfect qb scenario as for why? if the rookie beats them out it means the bills are winning games immediately and I want it to be Mayfield becuz I get 6 hour Viagra boners every time I see his highlights.

well if this is directed at me you totally got the wrong feel off of what I said...... as I also said i'm gonna dvr it and probably be able to enjoy it more knowing now it got us into the playoffs and we won. as a spectator on a couch watching it unfold live that doesn't mean it wasn't horribly frustrating. it friggin was, man. believe me. I thoroughly enjoyed the season from start to finish. 15 hour drive after a loss in j-ville be damned. LOL. I bought in at 5-2. I held on hope going into arrowhead when McDermott made the switch back and then again going into week 17 and all the way down to duval county. I live in the moment. I don't do the whole "i'm not buying in yet" BS... and that made this season the most enjoyable one ive ever had as an invested adult in the franchise. I made 5 games this year. that one didn't happen to be one of them and its bittersweet because 2 of my best buddies basically sum it up as saying it was totally awesome but they really don't care to ever deal with it again. for me i'd have to say the most perfect experience I've had weather-wise so far was in 16 vs the steelers. obviously the outcome sucked but it was just the most awesome dry snowfall all day to tailgate and watch a game in. the stadium looked so crisp that day. really cool.

i'm definitely gonna dvr it and add it to the list of games I watch buzzed up on random Friday nights this offseason. right along with the week 17 fins/end of bengals game that I remembered to dvr. that being said.... my god I was frustrated during that game. defense buckled late. freaking joe webb at qb. the punt in OT that seemed to doom us to a tie.... I just remember sitting there after the W having to tell myself to relax and remember that we won and to enjoy it. LOL. I think i'll be able to do that better now that I know the outcome.

He’s having a hard time grasping that concept. But you are right. One team did what it needed to over 16 games and finished the season strong. The other didn’t.

Well there ya have it. The site that lets people add their thoughts to what definitions are proves it for you. Definitely legit... silly me. Obviously when you are playing well and finish the season 4-2 you are still apparently “limping backwards” into the playoffs. Seems legit. Off to get another beer.