
Mat68
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This draft has 5 legitimate first rd qbs. Every year they inflate some QBs to create more ratings and interest because they need to manufacturer stories for their broadcasts. That makes it difficult to find what former classes were graded and how the current class rates. NFL executives are comparing this draft to previous and future ones. Allen is getting drafted in the top 5 because he has an arm like Rodgers and Stafford with the size of Big ben and Cam.
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With more college prospects entering the draft earlier to get to their second contracts earlier it is difficult to use any of the old qualifiers. Parcel's 10 keys, Qbase and this correlates to more playing time and 3 or 4 year starters. This class has more quality QB prospects than most drafts. Drafts are graded in there year and previous ones are always looked upon more fondly in terms of players rating and perception is normally 20/20. This year is also a fantastic and interesting contrast in scouting. Traditional vs analytics. The traditional guy Allen and the analytics guy being Mayfield. The success of either doesn't discredit the other method but it will be an interesting draft and season.
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I would rather watch a legit Qb prospect playing Qb in Buffalo for first time in 3 decades than a good Mike or Will and a DT. Why do you need those extra picks when adequate vetran players can fill needs like your point on Wrs? By moving up they will have a full compliment of picks by also grabbing a qb in a position they would not have been able to otherwise. Seems like a win, win.
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True that is the time of year. Idk who they want. You do not have to be Mike Mayock to determine with Aj Mcarron and Nate Peteman on the roster Buffalo is drafting a Qb. Imo thats been made loud and clear by their actions. Reguardless who they want and where, it seems unlikley a Qb will fall to 12 because everyone assumes they want a qb. So if you pick after 12 you know you need to move past them to get them.
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Linebaker and Wr 2nd and 3rd. Depth the rest of the way. Imo Qb and Linebaker are the must finds in this draft class. For a shot at one of the best Qb prospects I would be ok taking a lesser prospect at linebaker. After that trade Buffalo stil has a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. You get a franchise qb, a linebaker and a wr to take the top off coverage and its a win.
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Advance analytics favor the 3 to 4 year starter. That is why Mayfield is so high. He has 3 and a half years of games. Rosen, Darnold, Allen, and Jackson are going to be the new normal. With longer college seasons and systems designed for college success there is no reason to stay longer in college than the minimum.
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Right but the guy is ignoring positional importance. 4 Rbs, a guard as his top player and splitting hairs on Darnold not including him in the first rd is idiotic and just click bait. If Darnold becomes an average starting Qb he is more important to a teams success than the gaurd even if he is a perennial all pro for 10 years.
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12, 22, 53, 65 and 2019 1st and swap of mid rd picks get it done for NYG. If the Giants want to trade out they will do it for 3 1st a 2nd and 3rd. That is the most they will receive. That is not a Ditka for Ricky Williams move. Buffalo would have 2, 56, 96 so a Qb than a second and third. The only variable is NYG willingness to trade. By moving JPP they seem to be rebuilding so a move down for would seem realistic. To me the only reason they have been collecting these picks was to use them to select a Qb that would have been otherwise out of reach. If Buffalo does not land 1 of the top 5 Qbs many including me would rate the draft a disappointment and would officially start the clock on Beane and Mcdermotts careers in Buffalo.
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This is the worst part of "Scout speak". Round grades mean nothing. There is not value at picking a QB 3 or 56. If they become a franchise caliber starter in the NFL they are worth the 1st pick. Value means nothing if you like the player and they produce and are effective in the NFL they are worth the pick or possibly higher. Matt Malano would have been perceived as a reach if he was drafted in the 3rd though his play this past year would have justified it.
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You are right. I think the thing with Allen that makes teams optimistic is that he is not some well oiled Qb. He is not an elite 11 Qb prospect that has gone to every QB camp since he was 12. Allen appears to be a natural talent. Working with Palmer he is learning and being taught how to make different throws, and why your feet is tied to accuracy. This in the end is all about ego and potential. The ego is that of the coaches. The potential is simply, watch Allen's best 50 throws. Those are by far the best in the class. A coach will have his staff get Allen to do that all the time. None of the Qbs are slam dunks most evaluators are going to give the coaches the guy with the most ability, it the coaches job to get that out of him.
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When can we expect THE trade to happen ?
Mat68 replied to DKBills25's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Draft night. If Cleveland announces their pick before hand I could see something happen before the giants are on the clock. The cost of moving up Buffalo will have it that this is their guy. -
The double trade could happen. I expect it would happen at the same time. Imo how highly do they think of Jackson. They could stay close to 12 flop a third move up slightly and keep most of the picks.. maybe Rosen slides. If that happens imo Buffalo would be a player. Too many ways it can play out still. Cleveland than NYG sets the scene for how it goes. Buffalo could move up anywhere. Will be the most exciting draft in awhile.
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Josh Rosen snaps back on Mora comments
Mat68 replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Mora is the last person anyone wants to hear about selfentitledment. Mr if my last name wasnt Mora I wouldnt have gotten a job. -
There is not way of knowing if Gettleman would take a QB at 2. I believe Gettleman is just drumming up the price for 2. They will want a ransom or they will take Darnold. They hold all the cards here. Until the Giants are on the clock the price wont reach its largest figure. The next guess is who does the Giants value positional wise? Chubb, Nelson? Maybe Buffalo trades up for either of those guys and trade the players once they know you have their guy. There is many outcomes but i do not expect them to playout until they are on the clock and there is no doubt who is available. PR wise Beane is going to wait for the draft to trade so they can say we moved up for x player and x player only.
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The browns missed out on Wentz and they are going to draft Allen because of his potential. Not a big surprise here. Curious to see what Buffalo does and who they value most.